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lvrr325
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Anyone have that Krause Athearn guide handy can tell me how rare this version is? 40' Chemical tank car, silver body, red Allied Chemical logo and National Aniline on the right, big Actol on the left. Since we moved my copy seems to have dissapeared. I know there's at least one of these that's pretty scarce; I have the Genetron/Allied/General Chemical version and have never seen another of those either.
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Anyone have that Krause Athearn guide handy can tell me how rare this version is? 40' Chemical tank car, silver body, red Allied Chemical logo and National Aniline on the right, big Actol on the left. Since we moved my copy seems to have dissapeared. I know there's at least one of these that's pretty scarce; I have the Genetron/Allied/General Chemical version and have never seen another of those either.

Originally posted by lvrr325 - November 04 2008 :  1:50:24 PM




Said to be the most scarce AThearn production freight car ever made. 1962 was the year they ran these. Discontinued due to mold problem supposedly. I just got one off fleabay for 99 cents... (not in perfect shape but very good and Athearn still stocks all the parts needed to restore it).
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Update. do check the car number. NANX 151 is the rare one. AThearn rereleased this car sometime after 1997 with car number NANX 152 kit # 1555. The original car was kit #1554 and yellow box only.
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Here's both kit releases together: NANX 151 in front is the original car and NANX 152 coupled behind is the newer one.
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Hi Larry. Actol chemical tank car released in the 1990's nanx 152 is also cataloged as 1554 same as the earlier car. 1555 is Frontier Chemical. The nanx 151 was made up to the 1970's. It was re released as were most of the Tank cars in the 1990's with different road numbers.

The only one that they did not change was the 1556 Celanese Green Tank. For some reason they used the same road number as the early run 39617.

I have most of the Chemical tanks and a few Tanks that were never cataloged. I have them in yellow and Blue and RTR Blue Window boxes. You are right most of the early Chemical Tank cars are hard to find, the Actol is the hardest to find intact. Just like you, I just got a Actol tank last week at my LHS it was broken and missing everything. But, the main body was intact. Getting together all the parts to restore it.

If you want another hard to find item try 1269 Reading Caboose made only for a few years they discontinued it and reissued the 1269 number to a Santa fe caboose. 1269 over the years was used for 3 different ATSF cabeese. For over 30 years they never made another Reading caboose. Athearn now makes a Reading caboose in their High priced RTR line.....

Also you memtioned GP30. A few years back we had a post about them. here is the link:

http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=306&SearchTerms=gp30
It is a interesting and fun read. Also you will see a Reading GP30 with the 1269 Reading Caboose.

Will post pictures of the Reading caboose some other items have to dig them out.. Carl

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[quote]Hi Larry. Actol chemical tank car released in the 1990's nanx 152 is also cataloged as 1554 same as the earlier car. 1555 is Frontier Chemical. The nanx 151 was made up to the 1970's. It was re released as were most of the Tank cars in the 1990's with different road numbers.



HMmmmm. ya sure? Acording to the standard guide the Actol tank was only made for a short time and was supposedly (at the time anyway) sought after by collectors. The kit box for NANX 152 has #1555 on it. I'll add a pic.

Larry

PS I know some of the special promotional run tanks were definitely rare. Including the Genetron one.
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Larry, it looks like you may have a error box. The Guide has them listed 1554 Actol and 1555 as Frontier Chemical doesn't make sense to Switch numbers around. It wouldn't be a first time Athearn screwed up. . I did not buy too much of the newer run kits. I have mostly he early kits. More fun collecting them. Carl
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Larry, it looks like you may have a error box. The Guide has them listed 1554 Actol and 1555 as Frontier Chemical doesn't make sense to Switch numbers around. It wouldn't be a first time Athearn screwed up. . I did not buy too much of the newer run kits. I have mostly he early kits. More fun collecting them. Carl

Originally posted by VintageHO - July 19 2010 :  9:44:31 PM




Could be..I was thinking Frontier chemical as well for 1555. I got the new kit just too go with the old one that I just finished today. All the original needs is some Kadee's
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Was just checking my Athearn and Walthers catalogs between 1990 and 2001. The Athearn numbers listed go from 1553 to 1557 They skip over 1554,55,56. I know the new run of 1556 is the Celanese Tank. I did not buy the kit because the road number was the same as the early run. So that leaves 1554 & 1955 It would not make sense that they would change the numbers, since all of the other cars in the Chemical Tank series are the same kit numbers as the early runs. I do not have any Catalogs of Athearn or Walthers from 2001 to 2005. Maybe there might be some info in one of those catalogs. After 2005 Walthers does not mention any Athearn items anymore in their Catalogs. On Line, Athearn has removed all info about Blue box Kits. So the search Begins
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I just picked up another one of these - mint/unassembled in the early blue box with the blue contents panel. Obviously Athearn made these for a few years in the first run.
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Does this help ?
1549 Undecorated 1966
1550 2550 Gulf Oils Orange 1959
1551 2551 Michigan Alkali Company White 1959
1552 2552 Dow Chemical Blue 1959
1553 2553 E. I. DuPont Silver 1959
1554 2554 Actol Silver 1962
1555 2555 Frontier White 1962
1556 Celanese Jade Green 1963
1557 Hooker Orange 1963
1558 Staley Chemical Gray 1971
1559 Lion Oil Company Red 2000
1560 Wyandotte Black 2000
1561 Aeron White 2000
1562 Union Texas Petroleum Black 2000
1563 Farmer's Chemical Association Jade Green 2000
1564 Clinton Corn Process Gray 2000
1565 Brea Chemical Company Silver 2000
1566 Penn Salt Yellow & Black 2000
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Here are both the Genetron and Actol (original release) chemical tanks together. For those on here who own a copy of the "Standard Guide to Athearn Model Trains" - the Genetron car is the very one pictured on page 63. The former owner is a long time collector selling it off now. I restored it with new parts.
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I just grabbed annother National Aniline Actol car, an original. Need to find a donor to restore it, since it's pretty whipped.
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There's a mint unassembled kit on ebay right now. Im not bidding on it I promise.

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[quote} I know the new run of 1556 is the Celanese Tank. I did not buy the kit because the road number was the same as the early run.
Originally posted by VintageHO - July 19 2010 :  10:33:24 PM

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RE: Celenese tank car rerelease: they did the original road number (39617) the first go round when they brought it back - but at least one possibly two other road numbers were released later. I just picked up an unassembled kit with road number 39618

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not sure if this will help you ken
http://www.bev-bel.com/railroad/athearn-ho-scale-train-1555.aspx
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