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 Posted - October 25 2008 : 8:36:30 PM
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Here is a photo of the 0-6-0t. It smokes and chugs. The smoke unit puffs smoke in sinc with the cylinders. It chugs with each rotation of the axels.
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Posted - October 26 2008 : 02:09:54 AM
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another beast of the deep casting... I bet it pulls like an ox!
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Posted - October 26 2008 : 1:08:26 PM
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quote:Here is a photo of the 0-6-0t. It smokes and ghugs. The smoke unit puffs smoke in sinc with the cylinders. It chugs with each rotation of the axels.
frank
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I've got 2 of those, Frank, but they're currently both in pieces. I installed a powerful can motor in one of them, because both had 5 pole open frame motors that didn't have the torque to run them, particularly with the chugger installed. I generally leave the shakers out anyway, since they affect performance. Yours has the better motor (at least I assume it was). I'll have to get back to them one of these days, but they haven't been a priority. They have a lot of slop in the axles.
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Posted - October 26 2008 : 3:49:54 PM
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Nelson : I have a few of them to and all mine run fine. As to sloppy, when you have three axels, all flanged and they are properly gagued, it is hard for a three axel loco to be sloppy.
If you look in the cab of my 0-6-0t in the photo you see a cast metal motor. All mine are the older ones with the Diecast motors. Revells newer cheep copy of pittmans DC 60 open frame motor isn't that good. That is proably why they need remotering. If you can find the old motors, they are OK!
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Posted - October 26 2008 : 5:00:54 PM
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You're right about those Pittman knock-offs... they have no torque, and one of them shorted some windings for no apparent reason. There wasn't even a noticeable increase in torque with a new stack of neodymium magnets.
I haven't been able to locate those older motors. I'm sure they had enough torque to overcome the the sprung shaker, but I think mine have some wear on the middle axle bearings from excessive running.
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Posted - October 27 2008 : 08:18:30 AM
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Did you notice that you can just, after removing the brushes, twist the rounder plastic front and the motor comes appart. Seperating the armiture from the magnet. frank
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Posted - January 01 2009 : 8:56:56 PM
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| I have one in pieces in a box that I never did anything with because when I opened it up, one of the panels on the commutator fell off. Yep. Don't think glue's going to fix that and make it run.
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Posted - February 28 2009 : 02:18:37 AM
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| My friend has one of these, but its been dead for some time. Cracked it open tonight and aside from it missing a few wires, one of the brushes for the motor is gone. Anyone know of any suitable replacements? This is for the older style original cast metal motor.
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Posted - March 05 2009 : 8:56:48 PM
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if its dead use it in either a scrap yard display or put it in a park with a fence arond it 
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Posted - March 06 2009 : 12:47:19 PM
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If the armiture windings are good and the motor will turn, get a replacement brush. Which motor is it the cast or the open frame?
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Posted - March 08 2009 : 01:57:59 AM
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Frank, its the earlier motor and its all metal, I'm assuming that's the cast motor? Same motor as in this diagram.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/tonycook1966/Revell%20HO-Scale%20Trains/Revell_Exploded_Diagram_060.jpg
There is a brush in there but its not the correct size. I've put wires up to it a few times and got nothing. I've cleaned all the grime off the contact surfaces so I dunno whats going on.
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Posted - March 08 2009 : 1:06:47 PM
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Chriss. : The brushes on the cast revell motor are the same as what was a standard Athearn motor. They both are a 1/8th " thick. And the same length. I just took brushes from a Athearn motor and placed them into a Revell cast motor. The Athearn brush is also notched the same as the Revell brush.
*** If your motor still doesn't turn you proably have bad motor windings. frank
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Posted - January 16 2012 : 2:26:55 PM
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I need to get one of these! Does anybody have a photo or video of the smoke unit working?
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Posted - January 16 2012 : 3:27:18 PM
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I want one too Especially the one that has OMAHA on the side
That probablly ran in UP's Omaha,NE yards
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Posted - January 16 2012 : 11:29:58 PM
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I had one of these... uh, in the mid '80's. One problem, though... even though it chuffed smoke well, the "Chug Chug" device was causing the locomotive to lurch in each beat of the "Chug" which made a very jerky train.
I attempted to remedy this by getting to that spring and removing a few loops... and then, oop's...  that thing that happens when it would seem that if only I had a tiny third hand with complimentary fingers, I could reassemble the boiler to the chassis in the same movement/application as putting the cylinders at the forward end of the rods... y'know, unscrew the long screw and  it all comes apart... "it, which HA's last, oh, ma, Ha's the greatest!"
feh deh... dump! CRASH!
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Posted - January 18 2012 : 07:23:01 AM
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quote:I had one of these... uh, in the mid '80's. One problem, though... even though it chuffed smoke well, the "Chug Chug" device was causing the locomotive to lurch in each beat of the "Chug" which made a very jerky train.
I attempted to remedy this by getting to that spring and removing a few loops... and then, oop's... that thing that happens when it would seem that if only I had a tiny third hand with complimentary fingers, I could reassemble the boiler to the chassis in the same movement/application as putting the cylinders at the forward end of the rods... y'know, unscrew the long screw and it all comes apart... "it, which HA's last, oh, ma, Ha's the greatest!"
feh deh... dump! CRASH!
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Originally posted by zebrails - January 16 2012 : 11:29:58 PM
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John does this all mean you have droped and broken your 0-6-0t ?
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Posted - March 30 2012 : 08:20:13 AM
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| I've run across versions without the smoke and chug unit in them, too.
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Posted - April 06 2012 : 12:18:39 PM
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The smoke unit proably went bad and was removed
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Posted - October 21 2014 : 11:22:32 PM
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quote:Here is a photo of the 0-6-0t. It smokes and chugs. The smoke unit puffs smoke in sinc with the cylinders. It chugs with each rotation of the axels.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - October 25 2008 : 8:36:30 PM
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I recently was given one by a train pal. It runs, sort of, at high voltage, makes a shaking bead sound, and
does not smoke. It DOES however, throw a steady stream of sparks from the left side, but does not short
the transformer. Any ideas what could be causing the short? Seems to emanate from side rods.
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Posted - October 22 2014 : 10:38:31 AM
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quote:I want one too Especially the one that has OMAHA on the side
That probablly ran in UP's Omaha,NE yards
Originally posted by microbusss - January 16 2012 : 3:27:18 PM
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I always thought it was the Omaha Road:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago,_St._Paul,_Minneapolis_and_Omaha_Railway
http://www.cnwhs.org/ch_spmo.htm
But I see UP initials too, so maybe not...
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Posted - October 22 2014 : 9:32:56 PM
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quote: quote:Here is a photo of the 0-6-0t............
Originally posted by toptrain - October 25 2008 : 8:36:30 PM
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I recently was given one by a train pal. It runs, sort of, at high voltage, makes a shaking bead sound, and
does not smoke. It DOES however, throw a steady stream of sparks from the left side, but does not short
the transformer. Any ideas what could be causing the short? Seems to emanate from side rods.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â October 21 2014Â :Â 11:22:32 PM
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Since it's not a true short to ground, I think that the wipers are missing or not making contact. The electricity is finding a connection through the side rods, the sparks are caused by electricity jumping the gaps. Whereas normally, the electricity would go through the wheel and be picked up by the wipers and then to the motor. Just a guess. I'd really need to see the loco in action.
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Posted - October 22 2014 : 10:10:50 PM
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quote: quote: quote:Here is a photo of the 0-6-0t............
Originally posted by toptrain - October 25 2008 : 8:36:30 PM
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I recently was given one by a train pal. It runs, sort of, at high voltage, makes a shaking bead sound, and
does not smoke. It DOES however, throw a steady stream of sparks from the left side, but does not short
the transformer. Any ideas what could be causing the short? Seems to emanate from side rods.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â October 21 2014Â :Â 11:22:32 PM
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Since it's not a true short to ground, I think that the wipers are missing or not making contact. The electricity is finding a connection through the side rods, the sparks are caused by electricity jumping the gaps. Whereas normally, the electricity would go through the wheel and be picked up by the wipers and then to the motor. Just a guess. I'd really need to see the loco in action.
Originally posted by NC shortlines - October 22 2014 : 9:32:56 PM
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Me too, man! 
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Posted - October 22 2014 : 11:38:35 PM
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quote: [It DOES however, throw a steady stream of sparks from the left side, but does not short the transformer. Any ideas what could be causing the short? Seems to emanate from side rods.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â October 21 2014Â :Â 11:22:32 PM
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Check the backs of the side rods for pitting. That arcing should cause some if the wheels are shorting to the rods. At model railroad voltages, about the only way you could arc across from the wheel to the rods is if the rods were touching the wheels and then pulling away again, so look for something misaligned that would allow that contact to happen.
The pictures show wire wipers on the tops of the left wheels. These could arc a bit if they were picking up off of dirty or corroded wheels. That would be more analogous to a loose connection than a short and would not short the transformer. Cleaning those wipers and the wheels would reduce the arcing and would be a good test to try.
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Posted - October 25 2014 : 8:43:58 PM
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Make sure the pickup wiper is resting properly on both wheel treads. It may have slipped off one driver and be shorting to the connecting rod. Also check the wire lugs screwed to the wiper mount... if they're not properly positioned they can short to the smoke unit.
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Posted - October 26 2014 : 12:28:49 AM
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Just now thought of this
Like the Varney 0-4-0T
Do this have a more detailed valve gear to put on this?
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Posted - October 26 2014 : 01:07:22 AM
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No, this do not. 
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Posted - October 26 2014 : 08:01:05 AM
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Nelson, you are speaking microbuss. That language can be harmful to your sanity. You will revert to a 4 year old.
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Posted - October 27 2014 : 07:09:03 AM
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Frank, if I've lost IQ points it's from my head hitting the desk too many times.
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Posted - October 27 2014 : 11:45:19 AM
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It looks to me like you went to sleep and a female seen is planning something to do. To you.
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Posted - October 27 2014 : 3:31:36 PM
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quote:It looks to me like you went to sleep and a female seen is planning something to do. To you.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - October 27 2014 : 11:45:19 AM
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I don't think I really want to know what specifically she wants to do to him.
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Posted - October 27 2014 : 4:01:08 PM
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Stephen, would you rather turn into a microbus?
And a little more OT, my Mantua little six... fell apart!
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Posted - October 27 2014 : 5:31:10 PM
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quote:Stephen, would you rather turn into a microbus?
And a little more OT, my Mantua little six... fell apart!
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â October 27 2014Â :Â 4:01:08 PM
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I wouldn't go that far.
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