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 Posted - September 09 2008 : 09:09:35 AM
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just received these 2 locos,detail for run of mill rtr is great dowmside they came with dcc fitted,ken
http://hogtrainz.com/BACHMANN4-4-0.htm
4-4-0 richmond ma&pa,mainly metal,comes with coal load,wood load,and oil conversion plus crew only downside if i am right is no spark arrester chimney $87 factory sealed box
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gp30 $32 and good detail for money
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Edited by - catfordken on September 09 2008 6:09:32 PM
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Posted - September 09 2008 : 7:24:26 PM
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Very cool locos, love the 4-4-0. 
Although I agree with ya, DCC is a downside.
Also, it looks like the 4-4-0 has a Bachmann EZ Mate coupler on the tender, but with a metal spring? 
I thought EZ Mate only came with a moulded plastic spring of sorts.
    
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Posted - September 10 2008 : 05:07:12 AM
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Bachmann RTR comes with plastic knuckles and metal coil springs.
Athearn comes with those plastic knuckles with plastic finger springs... what a waste of time!
Ever try to remove those couplers? Bloomin' pain in the  popping the coupler covers off. Usually they are just short of being glued in, to boot!
$25 car and $0.20 coupler quality.
Now, the dcc delima...
I have two Bachmann Spectrum SD-45's. My first one did not come dcc-equipped. The second one did. Well, I want to double head these pulling a long string of cars. Can't do that with both locomotives at the same time.
The fix? I carefully removed the shell of the second SD-45, found the decoder, found the "Non-DCC" jumpers and affixed them to the 8-pin socket after I removed the decoder.
The steam locomotives should be basically the same. Albeit, the tender is where the electronics are.
Carefully unscrew the trucks from the tender chassis. Remove the trucks while you notice what all is attached to it, (You've removed the changeable fuel load, right?)
The bolt that you unscrewed was loop fastened with the pick-up wire, one end per side.
The reason this needs to be noted is that you must reassemble that connection with just more than two hands. Insert the bolt through the truck, through the chassi, through the loop wire, and finally through the nut.
There should be some sort of removal options of the dcc system planted in your locomotive tender. Few years ago, I bought two 4-6-0's with no decoders... but the circuitry was ready for dcc application.
Also make sure that all the wires are connected where they need to be. The wire bundle between the loco' and tender has a tendency of being pinch-fitted. (insert curse word here!  )
That's my experience. By the way, when you succeed in removing the dcc decoder, you now have an available dcc decoder.
Nice GP-30 by the way.
John
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Edited by - zebrails on September 10 2008 05:08:09 AM
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Posted - September 10 2008 : 12:14:48 PM
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it comes with these extras ken
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 9:00:55 PM
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Bachmann USRA light Santa Fe type 2-10-2 steam engine.
* I acquired today this loco from a good friend. It is a Southern Railroad USRA Light 2-10-2.
* Info with the Bachmann says, Quote [ Your Bachmann DCC-equipped locomotive is also 100 percent backwards-compatible with standard DC (non-digital) railroad layouts. ] end Quote. I take this to mean when I put this locomotive on my DC layout it will respond like a DC locomotive without any programming or change. No removal of DCC chip is necessary. In other words this locomotive will run on DC as well as DCC with no modification. I wonder if it is true?
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 9:19:28 PM
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 neat loco toptrain
But what is the cupola on the tender used for? Seen that alot & dunno what its for
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 9:39:10 PM
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quote:
That is the breakmans cabin. A standard on PRR, NW freight steam tenders. It would seem Bachmann also has put them on Southern locomotives. You won't see them on tenders of passenger locomotives.
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 9:52:31 PM
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ah I see thanks, Frank
Hey I likes that loco ken Real neat Tho I'd like to find a 4-6-0 & do the BTTF 3 one
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 10:06:16 PM
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quote:Bachmann USRA light Santa Fe type 2-10-2 steam engine.
* I acquired today this loco from a good friend.
* Info with the Bachmann says, Quote [ Your Bachmann DCC-equipped locomotive is also 100 percent backwards-compatible with standard DC (non-digital) railroad layouts. ] end Quote. I take this to mean when I put this locomotive on my DC layout it will respond like a DC locomotive . I wonder if it is true?
Frank
Originally posted by toptrain - October 23 2010 : 9:00:55 PM
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Yes, it is true. A DCC equipped loco WILL run on standard DC voltage throttle. No need to remove the Decoder. All decoder-equipped locos should do this, unless otherwise labeled. My Digitrax equipped engines will all run that way as well. Maybe in the early days, it would damage the Decoder, but they run either way now.
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Posted - October 23 2010 : 10:19:38 PM
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Yes, it is true. A DCC equipped loco WILL run on standard DC voltage throttle. No need to remove the Decoder. All decoder-equipped locos should do this, unless otherwise labeled. My Digitrax equipped engines will all run that way as well. Maybe in the early days, it would damage the Decoder, but they run either way now.
Jerry
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Thanks Jerry I try that tomorrow. Getting late now.
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