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 Posted - August 24 2008 : 07:26:24 AM
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A nonpowered early plastic Varney F3 in nice shape. Intact but someone painted over SOO I think. Not sure about the year this would have been produced or how it was sold.
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Posted - August 24 2008 : 10:18:58 AM
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My father owns a Lawyers Service and one of his better clients gave him this and he in turn gave it to us
Model Power F2
originally SP now custom painted with the firms lettering.
This firm only serves the railroad industry and represents several
railroads when they are taken to court.
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Posted - August 24 2008 : 11:00:33 AM
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| hey Alco Fan,did you see my varney new bodies in the trade section ken
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Posted - August 24 2008 : 1:29:11 PM
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BT, they shoulda done it to a Shark
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Posted - August 24 2008 : 5:24:15 PM
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Some nice older Diesels this week My own favorite from my youth
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 Posted - August 24 2008 : 6:42:29 PM
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Well since I have my grandpa's old Marx set out, and old diesels seem to be a bit of a theme going, I suppose I'll show you guys the only intact locomotive left from the old set.
It just screams "children's toy" to me. But then that's what Marx was all about, huh?
I mean, putting in detail on the trucks for three axles but still only putting in two seems a bit silly to me. And those tabs coming through the sides don't help much.
Well there ya have it, an orange Union Pacific E(7?) B-unit by Marx.
    
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 01:02:08 AM
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MM,
That's a mice Marx E7 B unit you have there.
Being a Marx collector myself I can appreciate the toy train look.
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 10:02:12 AM
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| The matching A-unit for that Marx FB was at the haunt once. It looked very cartoonish - so much so I actually tried to buy it. The drive system actually seemed fairly robust though, at first glance even similar to the Revell F in my collection.
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 10:49:45 AM
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I wish I knew what happened to the A-unit. I'd love to have a match that's in the same condition.
And yeah, most Marx trains seem to use the exact same motor, and it's practically indestructable.
Unfortunately, the term "dummy" applies to the B-units in more than one way. 
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 Posted - August 25 2008 : 4:39:42 PM
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Hi All,
This is a Varney B unit I have. Someone painted over the purple shell with silver paint. I think it may have been an ACL B unit. Does anyone know if Varney made an ACL B unit? I may try to strip the silver paint off but I'm affraid of messing it up. The plastic that is.
Anyway I hope you enjoy the picture.
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 5:07:41 PM
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are you saying the body is plastic,i thought varneys were diecast like one in photo ken
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 7:39:44 PM
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Ken,
I have 2 custom painted, I think, B units I think they say Varney 1947 on the inside? I bought them long ago for nothing and thought I had the A as well but can't find it. The 2 Bs are unpowered.
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Posted - August 25 2008 : 9:43:58 PM
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Ken,
Not all Varney F units are metal,I have a later Varney Penn Central F7 with a plastic body.
This was made after Varney moved to Baltimore,a year of two later Life Like took over the Varney molds,and tooling to produce their line of HO trains.
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Posted - August 28 2008 : 10:16:54 AM
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Hi Guys. Varney made Diecast F3s from 1948 to 1953 and though the years make many changes in the drive. In 1955 they introduced the Plastic shell version and though the years they also made many versions of the engine's drive. They made it until the 1960s. In 1963 Varney purchased the Pennline F7 and in 1965 they replaced the F3 with the dual headlight F7. Later, when some of Varney's items were sold to Lifelike, they made the engines well into the 1970s under the Lifelike name. Carl
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Posted - August 28 2008 : 10:25:29 AM
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Hi Mike. Varney did make a ACL F3B unit. The ACL engines were made from 1960 to 1964.
Varney also made the ACL F3s for American Flyer (Gilbert). Flyer used their own drive system, so they had to open the pilot so the front truck mounted coupler could move when the engine was in a curve. I think I have the Flyer ACL F3 somewhere. I have to check and see if I still have it. Carl
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Posted - August 29 2008 : 6:39:29 PM
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it must be my lucky week,bought 1 king class locomotive in brass,i emailed the guy,and asked if he had anymore and guess what he did,they are brand new, great investment for kids,okay the motors need lubing but am over the moon ken
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Posted - August 29 2008 : 7:04:58 PM
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| Sweet.
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Posted - August 29 2008 : 7:16:20 PM
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have been scouring internet,over last 3 years,20 plus mine have been popping up on ebay and an auction house called vectis,prices varying between $160 to $600,so would think they were a wharehouse find?only 200 hundred were made ken
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Posted - August 29 2008 : 11:24:30 PM
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the lite... aarrrggghhh...
I'm blinded by the lite!!!!
it, it was... Brass!!!!
Nice loco's Ken! 
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Posted - August 29 2008 : 11:42:37 PM
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Ken,
What's the deal with the front truck on those locos?
It looks like some kind of hybrid inside,outside bearing design.
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Posted - August 30 2008 : 06:36:41 AM
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hi choochin3
The engines, as originally designed, delivered 39,700 lbf (177,000 N) tractive effort, with 16" bore x 28" stroke cylinders and 250 psi boiler. At a request from Sir Felix Pole, the Great Western's General Manager, to get the tractive effort up to above 40,000 lbf (a major goalpost), the cylinders were enlarged to 16.25" bore, bringing the figure up to 40,300 lbf (179,000 N). This increase was removed on all members of the class at their first major overhaul. The distinctive design of the leading bogie (with outside bearings on the fore wheel and inside bearings on the rear wheel) was to allow these larger cylinders,ken
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Posted - August 30 2008 : 09:11:31 AM
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Thanks for the info Ken,
That's one classy looking loco,are you gonna have them painted?
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Posted - August 30 2008 : 09:19:04 AM
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hi choochin3,one painted one as is,have managed to get the b&o bell to mount on its front,from the 1927 tour of that area ken
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Posted - August 31 2008 : 5:39:34 PM
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Hey Guys:
I edited the date format slightly for a better match.
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