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 Posted - July 24 2008 : 09:02:46 AM
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Hey Guys:
Can't seem to find this so I tought I'd go for "Research via Consensus"!?
I want to complie a list of Athearn F7's that were made as HI-F that is Rubber Band drive units. The shells were to the best of my knowledge (and lets just be clear here IT's LIMITED!!!!) interchangeable between "Geared" and "HI-F" to the end of HI-F production and beyond...
I have two already:
PRR
CNR
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Thanks for any help.
-Gareth
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 Posted - July 24 2008 : 09:39:45 AM
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| I've had rubber band in Santa Fe and Rio Grande.
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 10:04:31 AM
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Hey Adams:
Do you remember which RIO paint? Orangey-Yellow with 3 stripes? Which Sf Warbonnet Red/Silver-Yellow stripe?
Thanks,
Gareth
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 10:16:06 AM
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FOUND THIS KEN
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Athearn-New-Haven-F7s-one-with-up-graded-drive_W0QQitemZ290247569957QQihZ019QQcategoryZ19130QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 11:25:27 AM
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Hi Gareth . Here is the list of all the HI-FI A and B units with Catalog numbers and description.
Burlington had two paint schemes with the same catalog numbers.
The Shells were the early Globe type with the Air hose details on the rear, The small front Coupler openning and The Seperate Number Boards.
These kits were also available with gear drive.
The later Gear drives had variations of the paint schemes and road numbers. Also The extra details were changed. Carl
Cat. # Road # Road Name
1101 / 2101 xxx Santa Fe, Red/Silver F7A
1102 / 2102 xxx Santa Fe, Red/Silver F7B
1103 / 2103 271C Santa Fe, Blue/ Silver F7A
1104 / 2104 269B Santa Fe, Blue/ Silver F7B
1105 / 2105 9506 Pennsylvania, Tuscan F7A
1106 / 2106 9506B Pennsylvania, Tuscan F7B
1107 / 2107 9506 Pennsylvania, Green F7A
1108 / 2108 9506B Pennsylvania, Green F7B
1109 / 2109 6326 Southern Pacific, Black Widow F7A
1110 / 2110 8220 Southern Pacific, Black Widow F7B
1111 / 2111 135 Burlington, Silver F7A
1112 / 2112 135 Burlington, Silver F7B
1111 / 2111 135 Burlington CB&Q Gray/Red F7A
1112 / 2112 135 Burlington CB&Q Gray/Red F7B
1113 / 2113 1467 Union Pacific, Yellow/Gray F7A
1114 / 2114 1467B Union Pacific, Yellow/Gray F7B
1115 / 2115 xxx Denver & Rio Grande, Orange F7A
1116 / 2116 xxx Denver & Rio Grande, Orange F7B
1117 / 2117 2376 Milwaukee, Gray/Orange F7A
1118 / 2118 2376 Milwaukee, Gray/Orange F7B
1119 / 2119 xxx Baltimore & Ohio, Blue F7A
1120 / 2120 xxx Baltimore & Ohio, Blue F7B
1121 / 2121 0272 New Haven, White/Black/Red F7A
1122 / 2122 0272 New Haven, White/Black/Red F7B
1123 / 2123 xxx Undecorated, Black F7A
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Edited by - VintageHO on July 24 2008 11:46:33 AM
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 11:40:38 AM
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On the Engine that Ken posted a link to. If I remember correctly that Upgraded Geared Reduction Motor Drive was Made by Kemtron.
I have a few of them. With the correct drive belts, they run much smoother than the original HI-FI set up.
There were three variations of the HI-FI Drive made by Athearn.
I will post picturesof them later. Carl
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 11:52:35 AM
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Hey Carl:
Those pics would be great. Great info you provided I didn't know there were variations on the HI-F EXCEPT I have three generations of Hustlers; conical axle, rounded/square with idler but same engine and finally as later but with newer Athearn engine. It was made in `91 and is the last year I think that the Hustler was produced. Probably then the last HI-F Athearn I would think???
You don't mention the CN units in your list. Perhaps my "A" HI-F CN is a geared Athearn Shell on a HI-F chassis?
-Gareth
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Posted - July 24 2008 : 4:02:07 PM
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| I believe my Rio Grande was yellow/silver with black pinstripes and lettering. Can't remember how many stripes. Someone here has it, but I can't remember now who I gave it to.
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Posted - July 25 2008 : 11:04:34 PM
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Hi Guys. Here are the pictures. Hi-Fi Drives were used from mid 1950s to Early 1960s.
1st The Early F7A Hi-Fi.
Had Insulated truck Frames. So there had to be a wire from each side to the motor for power. Shaft Support were held on to chassis with truck mounting screw. Check out the motor brushes.
2nd Variation has a newer style motor with redesigned trucks. Wiring is simplified to only one wire to motor, using ground from trucks to chassis.
3rd Variation. Same as 2nd except the shafts had flex joints on motor and the shaft supports were open on the top.
Now, this is an early drive with Flywheels added. Performance did not improve much.
This drive has the Kemtron Motor assembly. The Motor has a gear box with much thicker shafts. Did not need the shaft supports. Runs very smooth with Flat sided Drive bands.
Next, We will have to post the different Types of Geared Drives Athearn used on their engines. But, that will be another day. [:D]
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 12:29:18 AM
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Hey Carl:
Mid 50's-60? What about the Hustlers made after that or did you mean just the F7's? There were Geeps in HI-F as well as RDC's, are you aware of any others notwithstanding the Hustlers?
Any thanks so much for those Pics I'll archive them for later reference!
-Gareth
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 08:39:46 AM
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Hi Gareth. They all had the same HI-Fi Variations. Will dig out the Geeps and RDCs next.
The Hustlers just had two styles with the different Wheel axles..
There were many different types of Gear drives. Athearn did a lot of changes trying to get a good running drive that was inexpensive.
And then, there were the Conversions that companies like Kemtron, Lindsey, Hobbytown and others made to Fit the Athearn engines.
The CN F7 engine did not appear until the Gear Drives started. It was first cataloged as #0125 and #3125 Early 1960s.
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 10:34:40 AM
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Hey Carl:
So no way, for there to be a HI-F CNR version? Must be a shell trade that I have? I have a "B" unit for that in original box. t's numbered #3026
Did I miss any models? F7; GP7; RDC?
Thanks again for your help with this...
-Gareth
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Posted - September 07 2008 : 6:58:38 PM
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Thanks for the Athearn Hi-F drive pictures. I like to mess around with this kind of vintage stuff and thought I'd add one more variant. It's a GP-9 chassis with what looks like the old motor from the pre Hi-F gear drives. Being new to this forum though, I can't seem to figure out how to add an image to the post. Any help? Thanks, Bear
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Posted - September 28 2010 : 7:33:42 PM
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[quote]Hey Carl:
So no way, for there to be a HI-F CNR version? Must be a shell trade that I have? I have a "B" unit for that in original box. t's numbered #3026
Did I miss any models? F7; GP7; RDC?
Thanks again for your help with this...
-Gareth
I know Im late to the game here. Athearn also produced Hi-F drive Rectifier electrics (same chassis as the GP7) and the 4-6-2 Pacific (engine in tender - tender axles were the drive ones). I have 2 Hi-F CB&Q F7A's, 3 Hi-F GP7's (IMC, WAB), 12 Hustlers (all variations) and one RDC3 (ATSF)
Larry
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Posted - September 28 2010 : 9:20:11 PM
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I has the UP F7s They were $5 at a garage sale 
the B unit now has a truck 
If anyone can still get those orthodonic bands let me know
Also look on any frieght car or loco box from Athern You'll notice the UP loco is the same number as mine 
Also where do I get couplers for these locos? 
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