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 Posted - April 05 2008 : 5:26:20 PM
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Hey:
Is anyone running any Interurban stuff on their layouts or have in their collection? Stuff like Doodlebugs, freight trolleys, that kinda thing. Not the San Francisco style trolley though...
Pics would be appreciated...
Thanks,
Gareth
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Posted - April 05 2008 : 10:17:42 PM
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I have a Suydam North Shore Line coach. No digicam yet, sorry.
San Francisco cable cars, if that's what you are referring to, are not trolleys.
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 01:47:26 AM
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I scratchbuilt this one, it's light enough to be an Interurban freight motor...
I also own one of these classic Tyco 4 wheelers. I haven't decided whether I'm going to put a working pole on it yet as all my electrics have working overhead.
This is my Bachmann Brill that I have modified with proper roof details, working poles and overhead/two rail crossover switch.
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 02:24:44 AM
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Roy:
Yeah. Been to SF. I know. I was trying to prevent pics info of that of that "style". Guess my efforts wern't as efficacious as I thought.
Shaygetz that little fright interurban looks pretty great. I thought on first blush that iit was an MDC Box cab dressed up...
-Gareth
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 04:22:10 AM
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I built this 4 wheel boxcab after seeing the Interurban freight motor Shaygetz built.
I have an old interurban car shell I got at the last show that I plan to rebuild.
Ray
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 04:34:57 AM
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Hey Ray:
Is that a Hustller chassis?
I've been thinking a lot about the SF M-190. Why do you suppose they build it withe the engine having a common truck with the Freight car?
-Gareth
Edited by - romcat on April 06 2008 05:26:58 AM
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 04:52:16 AM
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quote:Hey Ray:
Is that a Hustller chassis?
-Gareth
Originally posted by romcat - April 06 2008 : 04:34:57 AM
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Yes, It is on a Hustler chassis.
Ray
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 09:26:44 AM
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quote:| ...I've been thinking a lot about the SF M-190. Why do you suppose they build it withe the engine having a common truck with the Freight car? Originally posted by romcat
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Since all three trucks are similar looking, I wouldn't be surprised if they all have traction motors. It's probably articulated so as to more easily negotiate tight-radius street trackwork.
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Posted - April 06 2008 : 6:42:41 PM
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| My guess is the articulation is for weight and construction savings. That has usually been the reason, be it the SP daylight passenger cars, Burlington Zephyr, etc. After all, for a vehicle like this, you would never be without a baggage (mail, express) car anyway. Any coaches added on would have been "as needed." To me, this really falls in the "Doodlebug" category rather than interurban. I doubt if they ever went anywhere with a tighter radius than regular stock could go.
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 Posted - April 06 2008 : 9:36:19 PM
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I wonder if what made the M-190 attractive (not too obviously since they was only one I think) would translate to a Traction enviorment? I think that a passenger car tacked on would be quieter than a typical Doodlebug but surely the power limits of a Gas/electric of the 30's would be approached pretty quickly?
Come to that, Traction seems to be essentially "Light" electric rail. Does anyone have a good knowledge of this enviorment? I onlt recently discovered that freight was run on some of these. Was it standard gauge or something else? What other characteristics distinguish the Traction and/or interurban enviorment?
-Gareth
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 02:35:54 AM
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quote:| I wonder if what made the M-190 attractive...would translate to a Traction enviorment? Originally posted by romcat
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Actually, I think doodlebugs were built for mainlines or branchlines to provide less expensive service during lean traffic times, such as the 30's.
There were trolley hearses, RPO's, and other special service cars.
quote:| ...What other characteristics distinguish the Traction and/or interurban enviorment? Originally posted by romcat
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Traction, in this sense, as I have heard the term used, refers strictly to city streetcar service. Interurbans run on this track also, while within a city, and on dedicated trackage between towns.
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 03:24:21 AM
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Hey:
I'm gonna have to be more specific. I know/knew Doodlebugs were used for low traffic service.
I'm really more interested in the Electric Interurban/Traction enviorment
The LITERAL meaning of the word "Interurban" would indicate between urban centers, no question.
On the other hand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modesto_and_Empire_Traction
BTW; I segueyed to the M-190 since it has a visual comonality, with some traction equipment.
Maybe the Tyco forum isn't the best place to ask this since they never really built models for that representation.
Guess I'll have to buy that Traction Planbook, for background.
-Gareth
PS: found this
http://www.eastpenn.org/rmc.pdf
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 04:36:08 AM
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quote:| I'm gonna have to be more specific...I'm really...interested in the Electric Interurban/Traction enviorment... Originally posted by romcat
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Perhaps, a bit more specificity regarding what you mean by "Interurban/Traction environment". Are you speaking of urban "scenery" surrounding interurban operations within cities, or what, exactly?
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 12:03:04 PM
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Hi Roy:
Operating enviorment.
-Gareth
PS: Ray; you got a picture of that Interurban shell you mention?
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 1:26:11 PM
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quote:PS: Ray; you got a picture of that Interurban shell you mention?
Originally posted by romcat - April 07 2008 : 12:03:04 PM
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Not at the moment, It is in pretty sad shape with a couple of layers of thick paint. I have to strip it and repair a few spots.
Here's how to build one
http://2guyz.info/Forums/viewtopic/t=1816.html
Ray
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Posted - April 07 2008 : 1:52:15 PM
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Hey ray:
I fired him an email. He lives just a couple klicks to my east.
-Gareth
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