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romcat
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Hey guys:

I've been thinking about a "history" for a proto-freelance railroad I want to model based on some stuff I have in hopes of cutting back on buying more locomotives, and I was thinking about the paint jobs GIC did on his "Ducky" line the St. Canard, and thought it would be fun to ask forum members to tell us the "FACTIONAL" history of their little empires!?

I'll include the one I'm working on at present... tenatively the Port Arthur & Ft. William Belt Line.

-Gareth

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My B&MC is a Strasburg like museum road that makes a living as a branch line route through the Delmarva peninsula on Maryland's Eastern Shore in the mid 1970s. It runs on trackage bought up from the Penn Central in 1968 and uses it to move soybeans, corn and sorghum to the mills just south of Wilmington, Delaware. It also houses one of the largest collections of operating steam and first generation diesels on the mid-Atlantic seaboard, running regular excursions throughout the spring and fall. A 30" gauge subsidiary, the Ocean City and Cape Charles, runs a 65 mile route through the small crabbing villages along the Chesapeake Bay, connecting with the B&MC in Berlin, Maryland. At this point in time, it is barely functioning, soon to be abandoned to the tidal wetlands it passes through.
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Hey SG:

Got any pics or maps?

I have a few from 1912/14 but mine will be based in `53-55

-G
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Mine changes with the locos and rollingstock used for the day.
Some days it is a sub division of the Santa Fe, SP or UP, some days it is a sub division of the P&LE, NYC, Pennsy, Penn Central or Conrail. Sometimes it is CN or CP.

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Funny how, a debate about Ebay pricing or someone's stupidity on Ebay draws all kinds of attention and debate.

Must explain the popularity of Jerry Springer and his ilk.

On the other hand I post a discussion idea about peoples own "pikes" and any invented history and only two of the forum stalwarts respond!

Kinda sad.

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Well, you have my own line's ramble to look at in the other post. Didn't get too much there either so I figured I wouldn't bore anyone to death.

On the other hand, I remember you were pretty excitable about ebay matters at this time a year ago? It comes and goes. But I guess people always like a good train wreck!
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O.K., then, here it goes---When I'm not just running an un-related myriad of equipment for no apparent reason, I do have a loose theme of Trans-Pecos Texas railroading, based on roads like the SP and South Orient. I particularly like the long-abandoned Rio Grande Northern and Rio Grande, Micolithic and Northern---which were both shortlines that hauled coal and mica (respectively) out of the West Texas mountains. Some of the Tyco equipment I might use for the job would include various steamers (old Tyco/Mantua), a great new 'Mantua Classics'
2-6-6-2, Tyco GP-20 in SP paint, 8-wheel and bobber cabooses in Tyco's silver SP paint, operating hopper cars, other various tyco freight cars, and for good measure--a four car Tyco lighted streamliner in Santa Fe colors pulled by a Red/Silver Century 430. Layout scenery is desert/mountain, and my signiature structures are the Tyco Howard Johnson's, the Plasticville Siesta Motel, and a Blair Line wooden "Trading Post"-style store patterened after the Apache Trading Post in Alpine, Texas.
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romcat
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I was!? Really. Don't remember that. Sure I wasn't just satarising?

In any case it doesn't undermine the contrast of trying to pull towards a positive conversation now even if back then I was too focused on what Ebay was doing. Not saying there's anything wrong with discussing the Ebay/Tyco market only commenting on what often doesn't get attention cause it's not as "sexy!" My view of the world is changing and so how/what I write about does as well.

Btw; can you paste your "Ducky" story in this thread? It'll help for those who missed it.

-G

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quote:
Hey SG:

Got any pics or maps?

-G

Originally posted by romcat - January 10 2008 : 04:53:52 AM



When my Dad died 5 years ago, his beautifully done map outlining the OC&CC that he drew himself was lost. I haven't had the desire to draw one up myself, though it would follow all the trackage now used by the Maryland and Delaware Railroad. >>> http://www.mdde.com/ I could model them but that's no fun as it would require rivet counting and such, things I'm just not interested in.
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Considering that both my N scale and HO scale layouts are in the process of being built, I may change some of the backstory...but stated below is the basic idea.

My HO layout is called the "Winsted Southern Railroad" Its HQ is located in Winsted, Connecticut. The line is a combination of former Central New England and New Haven main lines that were real life right of ways that have since been abandoned. But in my "world" the lines were kept in operation through WWII and saved from Penn Central abandonment in 1968 with the startup of the new company...the Winsted Southern.

The line runs from Plainville CT...where it interchanges with Pan Am Railways (B & M) and the Timberwolf RR (my N scale free-lanced railway which I'll explain shortly)....up the former NH Collinsville Branch through Collinsville and Pine Meadow CT. From there, the line is former Central New England mainline through Western CT up to Winsted, where a large interchange with the Timberwolf is made and the real life Naugatauk Railroad as well. From Winsted, the line heads out through Norfolk and on to Canaan CT where interchange is made with the Housatonic Railroad (real railroad). Branch lines consist of track running from Collinsville to Canton CT, as well as Industrial trackage in Collinsville....and a connection between Pine Meadow and New Hartford CT.

Traffic consists of large amounts of lumber and forest products, road salt, appliances from a Westinghouse facory, several paper mills, John Deere tractors, beer and hops, general products from various on-line customers, bridge traffic between the interchange railroads, and TOFC and Road Railer services.

The locomotive fleet consists of a number of F40PH's, GP-38-2's, a couple of rebuilt and EMD powered Baldwin Sharks, a pair of CF-7's, a pair of Alco Century's (C424 &C630), and several switchers. The F40PH's are all named after the various dogs past and present I have owned, own, or grew up with.
*FERGUS
*McKENZI
*PETEY
*HUSH PUPPY
*A.J.
*SHEPPY
*NERRA

My N scale layout serves as an interchange railroad. (Gives me a storyline and an excuse to have two layouts in two scales). The Timberwolf is a large Eastern Railroad running along the Massachusetts/Connecticut borders and across Upstate New York. The company also operates the former New Haven line from Plainville CT to Westfield Mass where it interchanges with the Pioneer Valley RR (Real line). Branches run from Simsbury CT to Feeding Hills Mass, and Simsbury to West Simsbury CT. Many other brances and secondary lines are included in the system farther out west. The TWRR hauls all kinds of traffic and is a large and modern railroad.

Locomotive fleet
GP-40-2 (68)
F40PH (25)
GP-60 (34)
MP-15DC (10)
GP-20 (8)

Amtrak operates over most of the TWRR.
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Interesting responses so far! I like reading this kind of stuff; everyone has their own take on the hobby, and I like knowing the more personalized sides of things.

My own proto-freelanced line has been discussed here:

http://tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2473

and here:

http://tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2302

Anyway - I love all the descriptions shown above... from Ray's "whatever strikes my fancy" to Cairn's superbly detailed missive. Would love to see more.

Might I also add, there's really no right or wrong way to do things if you're having fun. For my own sake, I am hoping to make my layout reflect some things in my own history and interest that maybe someday my own family and friends could reflect on. It's how you turn just "some old train stuff I got from my uncle and decided to sell" into something with a little more significance. Yeah, I've got a bunch of silly and nondescript stuff... but I hope that someday, some of the things I've made could be cherished gifts and reminders of who I was, why I loved my family, and who we (once) were as a country...

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I grew up in a town not far from Altoona Pa./ The Horseshoe Curve, and have been thinking lately about trying to represent my hometown. My great grandfather was an engineer for the PRR and used to bring trains to industries there. As most modelers do I'll end up suggesting parts of the town with industries and businesses and landmarks but will free lance parts that have sentimental value and don't actually reside in town. I have temporarily placed buildings to represent this now.
I like the modern locos too, mostly diesels, and will run an eclectic mix with fallen flags and leased loco from railroads which the "New PRR" , which is the size of a NS/CSX, has purchased/leased and operates in new and commemorative paint schemes, like the dieselized EBT RR and its C430 Alcos, ah Tyco. This is tough to do since I have a 4x8 layout that I'd like to extend once remodeling is done. For now I'm thinking about an addition with a staging yard-like addition and turntable.
I'd like to keep the era vague if possible so I can use lots of accessories. I'd really like to be era specific but that's not me now.

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Hey Guys:

For my next layout/pike basically, I looked at my collection and thought;

I want to run my Rivarossi Alco U-4a used by the Indianna Harbor Belt.



Also some "Critter" switchers (Athearn Hustlers, Lima British Rail Class08 with North American mods, and GE 44 Tonner)







And possibly this little guy:



After that I want to use my Canadian Stuff like a CP Baldwin DS4-4-1000 (S12), and a tandem of Varney Metal SW's, a HI-F Athearn CNR F-7A/B set, Atlas-Roco FP-7A, Mehano CNR Hudson, Tyco Pacific with CPR Tender and probably my favourite loco a Kitbashed 2-8-0 Consolidation Camelback.















OK, so that's the power roster. It's divided up like this:

PA & FW-BL
Critters for Dock/Harbour work
U-4A 0-8-0 Steam is heavy switching
Camelback is a Transfer engine, the lead bogie allowing better tracking at speeds used between PA & FW

CP:
Yard switcher in FW; Baldwin DS4-4-1000
Through Passenger Atlas-Roco FP-7A
Through Freight; Tyco Pacific

CN:
Yard Switchers in FW; Varney metal SW Tandem
Through Passenger; Athearn F-7A/B Tandem & Mehano Hudson
Through Freight: ???

The setting is 1953-55 in the conversion period to diesel. Inbound to Port Arthur is Grain from the praries and forestry products to be put on ships for overseas maket.

The focus is on the PA & FW-BL and the harbour and transfer to FW where the CP and CN have yards and through trains.

Anyway thats the basic outline. Any comments or constructive critiques are welcome.

-Gareth

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For several months I’ve been thinking about putting together a little switching layout. The parameters have to be; 1 – small, no longer than 8 feet, so it will fit between my desk and bed. 2 – I’m pretty much confined to a chair so it has to be narrow so I can reach across. 3 – Have a way to interchange cars… Simple enough, but nothing jelled in my mind until I saw a track plan posted to this forum by Romcat.
See http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2478 While the track plan itself did not appeal, the idea of a simple little marine operation did. So, I continued to mull the idea over. Then Romcat started this thread and ShayGetz mentioned his Dad’s narrow gauge plan on the Delmarva peninsula, “The Ocean City and Cape Charles…†and bingo the proverbial light bulb lite!

Cape Charles, Va looks like this from the air…

/tyco/forum/uploaded/Tyco4Fun/Bay Coast RR crop.jpg
Yep, this is a current rail marine operation… Probably the only one left in North America. Here’s the float bridge…

/tyco/forum/uploaded/Tyco4Fun/Eastern Shore Car Float Bridge.jpg

One could easily model the main business district… the buildings look like they were designed by Walthers! Here’s the bank…Bailey’s Savings?

/tyco/forum/uploaded/Tyco4Fun/Cape Charles Bank 10.jpg

This railroad has no shops… Major repairs are done out in the open in the Cape Charles yard using an old truck crane to get the hoods off and innards out… Traction motors are pulled by jacking…
The barges take the cars to Little Creek (Norfolk, Va) where they are unloaded and set out for interchange… To do that they need a locomotive…This is how they get the motive power to Little Creek….

/tyco/forum/uploaded/Tyco4Fun/Eastern Shore Car Float 1600.jpg

and back when maintenance needs to be done…

A simple model of a barge could remove the outbounds by loading the barge and picking it like a tray, replacing it with another barge with the inbounds…

My thanks to Romcat and Shaygetz for stimulating my imagination!

An excellent article on the history of the Eastern Shore and the effect of the railroad had upon it can be found at http://www.southernspaces.org/contents/2007/thomas/1a.htm

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Hey Tyco4Fun:

Happy to be of service!

There's still the Whatever they are calling the New York Cross Harbor RR. I think it's now called the New York-New Jersey RR, but they are definitely running railfloats across the Hudson.

http://www8.cpr.ca/cms/English/Customers/New+Customers/Where+We+Ship/Rail+Partners+Profiles/New+York+Cross+Harbor+Railroad+-+NYCH.htm?PrintMe=1

http://trainweb.org/AbandonedLIRR/NYCH.htm

Btw: Your last picture isn't showing up and I'd sure like to see it! Likely it's not because the filename extension is in uppercase "JPG" or their is a "illegal" character in the filename like a "#" or other symbol...

Also I have several dozen "shelf" layout plans based on a carfloat and I'd be happy to email them to you to look through if you want to contact me at:

jgpedwards@gmail.com

Best
-Gareth

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Gareth;

Don’t know what happened to the missing image… It was there… should be OK now…Thanks for the heads up… And the info re: rail float ops in New York Harbor… I thought those types of movements died years ago…

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Gareth;

Don’t know what happened to the missing image… It was there… should be OK now…Thanks for the heads up… And the info re: rail float ops in New York Harbor… I thought those types of movements died years ago…

Ben
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Hey Romcat,

So you really want to hear the boring story about the "history" of my road? OK, here goes:

I have a completely free lanced road, the New Mexico Northern. Any similarities to prototype roads are unintentional and will be altered when pointed out!! I have posted a few photos of locos in the customizing/kitbashing section.

The NMN is a class 1 bridge line that runs from Southern California through Southern Arizona and Southern New Mexico to the gulf coast of Texas. A second mainline runs North from Las Cruces, NM to Albuquerque. Then turns NE and runs straight to Chicago with a stop in St Louis.

The time period is anything from steam/diesel transition to today. I love diesels of all makes and models and want to be able to run them. So the time period changes to fit the locos pulling the trains.

ROSTER: Ah, this is the part I like! For me, the diesel pulling the train is what model railroading is all about. As such, I have a huge collection of diesels. Sorry, NO STEAM on the NMN! I am currently repainting an 18 unit FM fleet into the NMN grey and red. I have painted Alcos, Baldwins, EMD and GE units as well. By switching locos, time changes on the layout. FMs rule the rail until the mid 60s. Then come the Alco Centuries. They give way to a huge variety of EMDs. And lastly, The GE dash 8s and AC4400 pushed the EMDs out.

Romcat, what is loco RED #1306? Who made it? It's a 4 wheel cantercab, but don't think I have ever seen one like it. AHM did a small centercab, but it was lower. Also like that Brit shunter! Just a bit out of my price range!

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Hey Hypoponera:

That's a flexible Backstory/history you have...!

I'm actually moving toward a more "steamy" outlook I think thanks to Ray! I have 4 now and am going to pursue a solid collection of old Varney/Mantua/Penn line stuff from pre-60, maybe pre-50!

The little red guy is a Fleischmann 0-4-0 Switcher. In the case of mine it's been adapted to remove European Buffers and add NMRA couplers. I have a green one now. It weighs a ton! It also has a Marklin like center shoe pickup BUT it also runs off two rail like any North American HO It's what is sometimes called a "Critter" like the MDC Model 40. It's gonna be used on the dock in tight places.

As to the British Rail/Great Western Class 08, mine is the older much cheaper Lima model. I'm about to send it off to Ray for some work on the mechanism and siderods. Technically it's "OO" scale but it passes muster when you look at it. I compared the cab window size to an Athearn Trainmaster and it compares favourably. They are hard to find but not expensive. I think I paid $25 for mine. The newer Hornby would be over $100 though. I wouldn't buy one new but I got it as a lark and I'm going to take some liberty with my Port Arthur & Ft. William Beltline having imported them from Europe for the dock use.

Btw, theres an even smaller version of that Fleischman. It's got shorter hoods if you can believe that!

I remember reading your KB posts on the 430? in your Bridgelines paint. Enjoyed them and thanks for adding your story here...

My next goal as I was talking to GIC about the other night was to create examples of Proto-Freelancing rolling stock and trade them. I want to get a St. Canard probably covered hopper off GIC and some Pups for a Trailer-Jet which is so fitting considering his obssesion with them. I'd send a car with PA&FWB as well as my other Proto-Free Wilkes-Barre Connecting, especially since he designed a herald for me!

Cheers,
Gareth

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In a land where Alcos rule lies Tyko county. Where the sun never set on the Pennsylvania empire and mighty GG1's still cruise along the broadway beyond Harrisburg to Rico, on the slopes of Pola Mountain. And where from Arlee, gleaming Warbonnets refuel before heading west through all the lonely places of the open desert.

Where Texan mammoths haul endless rakes of billboard beauties spruiking tobacco and booze, smallgoods and baby foods. Where jazz notes and popping corks fill the corridors of the 20th Century Limited, where the Fleet of Modernism sails on and the  S A N T A  F E  is forever.

Where fallen flags fly once more with cascade green the only harbinger of things to come and where old locomotives never die - merely rostered on the Delaware and Hudson!

Well that about sums up my intentions, a mixture of futures past and memories that were never mine. Due to a change in living arrangements, my grandiose plans seem as far away as ever. But time and space (and cash!), the immortal enemies of model railroaders everywhere will favour me one day...

And I'll be ready, to shout out: All aboard!
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And I thought that I was one of the very few, really out there, modelers with distant vistas, and varied and exotic railway power and train sets. My shared PGW has a branch that goes from New Jersey to London, with connections through Erick's house in Austria to Turkey . With a second short branch to Saylorsburg PA. Most eastern railroads equipment can be seen from time to time, here and there around my massive highly detailed layout. Many here have seen the branch line the goes to Catfordken's living room south of London. You know the one that passes right in front of Kens TV screen. Don't ask how the trains get there, I just know they do. Because of this branch line many British, German, Austrian, and now French colorful train sets are seen running around my Frankford engine facility in Berger Point to the terminus in Jersey City on the Hudson. Yep from the Tames to the Old North River ( the Hudson ) and on to the Black Sea. What I have not really grasped yet is how the Orient Express get from the Hudson, through Bergen Point, London, Austria to Istanbul. I don't think about it. I just except it.
NOW THIS IS Model Trains in the Tyco Forum.
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I do like east coast railroading prior to 1960. One fictional road of mine is Virginia and Kentucky. Free lance in set in the 50's following NW C&O B&O and the Virginian. Starts out of Norfolk and goes into West Virginia, Kentucky and up Washington DC. Mainly a coal hauling road.
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^Maybe they're given running permissions over the Magic Railroad?

I haven't actually laid permanent track for it or anything, but I do have plans and a roadname: The Pegasus Bay Railroad. Headwuaters are somewhere on the USA east coast ish. Most of the primarily steam loco fleet is liveried in pink, with silver-colored smokeboxes and red wheels (mind you, I only currently have two steamers and one is exempted from this, but I plan on acquiring more). Some of the freight stock also carries pastel colors. Freight is of course interchanged. Passenger traffic from other railroads also shows up in the area, including an F9-headed Santa Fe streamliner (And, when I have UP-liiveried cars, a UP streamliner I plan to call the "City of Pocatello")

I plan to run it in different eras, depending on whether I want to use streamlined cars or wood-sided Pullmans. Steam haulage is present even in modern times, with the passenger locos having skirts-and-skytop streamlining beginning in the streamlined era and carrying over to modern day. Of course, some days I'll probably run the matchboard-side cars in the modern day because i can. Freight has some of everything, including double-stack container cars.

Highlights among the motive power, both hosted and visiting:
#6666 The pride of the PBRR's Pacifics. (Mantua Pacific)
#5 "Clementine". USRA 0-8-0 derivative leased to the Clementine Gold Mining Co. and retaining the company's branding in the modern era out of historical interest (Tyco 8-coupled, in this case the "Clementine" from the set of the same name)
#4019 "Big Girl" In this universe, 4019 was saved from scrapping due to being purchased by the PBRR after its withdrawal. Now wearing the PBRR's pink livery, it hauls the heaviest of freight trains even today. (Motorized Revell Big Boy. Not built yet, but planned)
#282 EMD f9A owned by the Santa Fe. Painted in passenger warbonnet, which I don't believe it ever was in reality, but it is here. (Bachmann EMD F9A, originally from Diesel Hustler set)

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The ballad of the New York and Dewey Beach is as follows:

During the early 1900s, residents of Delaware coast towns demanded rail service, and so a line from Georgetown to Dewey beach was chartered. The passenger revenue during the summer months in those formative years gave the railroad room for expansion to Philadelphia.

During the 1940s, the railroads wartime earnings allowed it to begin a mutual agreement with the prr, allowing it access to NYC. Also in that decade, the railroad began purchasing alco road switchers, and the dieseilation continued trough the next decade.

In the fifties, the railroad replaced it's older electric fleet of various boxcabs with Imported EF58 engines, affectionately nicknamed "Japs" and ELC engines.

In the sixties the railroad began drastic changes. A add on to the PRR e44 order graced them with 30 new locomotives, while the railroad bought many alco c-424 and 425 and 6 rs-27 engines. In 1962, the last steam engine, assigned to the now-branchline Dewey beach-lewes line was retired, and preserved.

Enter the NYDBE.

During the late sixties, the NYDB began eyeing new haven service, and created a new divison to handle the roads takeover. The railroad, banking on PCs failure, bought most of the NH alco HH660 engines in addition to the H-16-44 fleet. All of these were temporarily assigned to the NYDB freight services. Penn central did fail, and in 1971 the NYDB bought most of the ex-nh trackage and locomotives, including a sizeable chunk of the FL9 fleet.. The railroad began rebuilding the neglected trackage and declined joining amtrak.

At this point the railroad had 10 GG-1 engines, 12 rectifiers from NH plus the original add on of 14, 30 E-44 Units, all the EP5 jets, and 25 FL9 engines in addition to 15 EF58s.

In 1981, the railroad bought the remaining E44s from conrail, in addition to sending most of its f-units to freight service in favor of F40PHs.

In 1991 the railroad won the contract to operate on the route of SLE, and using F-7s converted to control cabs, operated the service.

In 2014 the FL9 fleet was replaced by a new order of Genesis engines and the f-units were finally replaced. 5 GG1 engines were also retired and sent to museums. 7 FL9s were kept as MOW engines.

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I started out doing the Lehigh Valley in New York as though it had escaped Conrail and combined with the Reading and CNJ and set in the 1990s.

But now that good models of LV power are more easily found - C420s, C628s - I've backdated to the 1973-1975 period and want to focus on the Allentown-Wilkes Barre segment, with portions of both LV and CNJ main lines in use. So I'm collecting equipment for that era.


A few ideas I might run with was I not already doing this -

In the late 1800s interests that control the New York Ontario & Western also take control of the Rome, Watertown & Ogdensburg, extiending the O&W from Oswego to Buffalo, and north to Watertown and connections to Massena. Resulting railroad is viable to last at least into Conrail.

- a shortline based on the NYC West Shore as though it had been purchased in segments beginning in 1961, plus some of the LV in Canastota, connecting Canastota through to Rotterdam Junction. It might use a by-pass to go around the portion of line that cut through Utica, and would also take over the NYC old main line in Oneida. Much of this route follows the Mohawk River, it's scenic and lends itself well to a narrow shelf layout.



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(Note, while my company "runs on" track from a prototypical rr, I'm not modelling to resemble that. It's just backstory.)

The Walkersville Northern is a small shortline, running on freshly laid track in and around Walkersville, MD. The line's biggest customers include a rail-supplied distribution center for Safeway, as well as a large scrapyard that processes scrap big and small from across the state and beyond. The line interchanges with primarily the Pennsylvania Railroad, bringing in not only food from the railroad's farm connections but in recent years many flatcars of crashed, dismantled, or decommissioned steam locomotives and their small, obsolete carriages. The line also runs near Pennsylvania Railroad operations pulling coal from the Appalachians through the town. The company has fully embraced newer diesel engines, and it's only steam engine, WN #1, sits in parts in the scrapyard, with few parts remaining to even identify it as WN #1. (The engine was a small 4-6-0 locomotive, bought cheaply to perform switching service at the local railyard. Tests showed that the aging little loco proved unreliable in face of ever cheaper diesel switchers.). Locomotives WN #2 and WN #3 are both Alco RS3s, bought fresh from the locomotive works. WN #4 is a stocky and powerful switching engine, that operates at the local railyard. Finally, WN #5 is a 3rd Alco RS3, speculated to be for an extra addition to the railroad's lines. This engine was bought 2nd hand from a bankrupted shortline, that sped into dieselization a little too quickly, and is currently being repainted.

(Author's note, the switcher is unnamed because I want to use the engine seen on Page 40 of Model Railroader's How To Build Realistic Scenery (How To Build Realistic Layouts no.7), but don't know exactly what engine that is.)

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Also since they cut track maintaince the trains had huge trouble making over the railroad by the end
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They did a Rock Island volountarily
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Okay, I feel like I should revisit this thread, as the old post of mine is a bit dated.

The Walkersville Northern Railroad operates in and around Walkersville, MD and surrounding towns and cities. 2 Alco engines, RS-1 WN 1 and RS-2 WN 2, operate in light freight service, hauling food goods to a grocery distribution center and scrap to the large Richard And Sons Scrapyard. WN 1 hauls goods from local farmers through small stations, and occasionally from the Pennsylvania Railroad through interchange service. WN 2 again picks up minor scrap from local stations, but this makes only a tiny fraction of this busy road switcher's freight. Most scrap is acquired from the upgrading Pennsylvania and Baltimore & Ohio railroads, with cars being interchanged off the Frederick Branch of Baltimore & Ohio and through the Pennsylvania Railroad subsidiary York, Hanover and Frederick Railway Company, part of the Frederick Division. During the dieselization period, connections with these large railroads allowed Walkersville Northern to acquire large amounts of scrap steam engines, as well as rejected diesel models that fell out of service due to various reasons.


WN 3 is in varying stages of scrapping, WN 3 being a 4-6-0 steam engine of unknown make, initially bought to do yard service. It was discarded to due problems with reliability and trouble operating in the small rail yard, being replaced by Whitcomb D2 WN 4.

WN 4 is a small Whitcomb D2 diesel, which can pull surprisingly heavy loads for it's size. WN 4 is commonly paired with WN #5, a yard slug for added tractive power pulling heavy loads, such as full scrap locomotives.

WN 5 is a small yard slug, built from a damaged Plymouth 25 ton locomotive. It's previous owner is unknown, coming into the interchange cab-less and with blacked numbers, but arrived with a load of mixed industrial scrap from the Baltimore & Ohio, leading to the most supported theory of an ex-industrial switcher that sustained damage during duties and was stripped for it's cab before being written off and added to a Baltimore & Ohio scrap run.

Other Locomotives operating on the layout:

Plymouth Centercab RCW 1 - A dependable Plymouth locomotive, RCW (Ray Chemical Works) 1 spots tank cars from the Richard And Sons scrapyard back to the Ray Chemical Works plant, where waste gasoline, oil, coolant, and other fluids are processed and disposed of.


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Also since they cut track maintaince the trains had huge trouble making over the railroad by the end
純那
yeah
They did a Rock Island volountarily
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