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Posted - September 27 2020 : 9:15:39 PM
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I have hit a roadblock with my layout and don't know how to set it up I don't want to do what I did last time two big sqares and an oval on the elevated part because I got bored of that quickly does anybody have any ideas for a 3 track layout on a 6x8 foot table that I will not get bored of so fast?
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 01:53:02 AM
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I don't know, Erik! I think the best ideas for you layout to make you happy would come from you!
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 3:26:56 PM
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I think have have some ideas
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 5:44:38 PM
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how about this?
to me I wouldn't even put in that 2nd or 3rd loop a few sidings & passing sidings yeah
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 7:27:16 PM
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No,no no. I built that Expander layout, and no way can it Be done with Tru Track. It is a very poor layout, and I speak From personal experience. The tight interface of turnouts create derailments, which is why the plan has so many rerailers.
Layouts get dull because the round and round effect is repetitive. Even with ginormous layouts, like at my former club, itgotvery tiresome going in even bigger Circles, no matter what the terrain.
Try two over lapping ovals that are both continuous. Keeping those trains on a schedule (like a fast clock or even an egg timer) will keep the dispatcher hopping.
I did this on both Henley andArmodilloville. It will keep You busy. Check out my fly in the sky video from ‘Layouts.’ Those collisions were not staged or even planned. I just worked them in the video. No trains got hurt.
Also, shoot video with a little story line and use a video editor to publish your work, like I do.
Edited by - Chops124 on September 28 2020 7:28:52 PM
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 7:41:20 PM
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I did get crossing track but I was very rushed when buying it and got the wrong one It does not work with my 18 degree radius curves I tried installing it yesterday because I was inspired by the one in Armodilloville I might get the right one soon I think I will do that
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 8:51:17 PM
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I can't say that I ever get bored with my layout. I don't mess with it much, but it is always a breath of fresh air just to go down and look at it. Or when someone visits who sees it and says, You built the table and all, in disbelief.. Just having this stuff and more, that I had and loved as a kid is pleasing to me... I believe sometimes I go back to a peaceful time, in 1974...
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 9:38:19 PM
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quote:I can't say that I ever get bored with my layout. I don't mess with it much, but it is always a breath of fresh air just to go down and look at it. Or when someone visits who sees it and says, You built the table and all, in disbelief.. Just having this stuff and more, that I had and loved as a kid is pleasing to me... I believe sometimes I go back to a peaceful time, in 1974...
Originally posted by walt - September 28 2020 : 8:51:17 PM
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its not that I get bored its just that I need to take the effort to get the track working smooth enough for my trains then I just love running them
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Posted - September 28 2020 : 10:07:05 PM
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OK, perhaps I misunderstood. I agree, Erik, trains falling off the track gets very tiresome. Even in the simplest of ovals, trains find a way to go to ground. Always look for uneven joints, kinks, warps, plastic Tyco wheels more egg shaped than round...you know the drill.
Still, if I may say, diamond's are my best friend. Easy enough to run trains in a big circle, fair enough, not knocking that, a LOT of people are happy to do that, and I enjoy their stuff.
By introducing the diamond, trains now have to compete for a space. Does a Z Train take priority over the commuter? Does the dog freight have to wait for the mixed train?
I don't go about crashing trains for the heck of it, but the low energy impacts on my stuff never cause any damage. Falling to the floor, that is bad, bad news.
This is a video from Henley, when I was experimenting with diamonds and what I call, "Continual Operations," where the trains move about each other constantly, as opposed to "Intermittent Operations," which is in itself quite, quite cool, and involves the slow motion interchange and switching of cars.
Do, won't you please, shooting up some video train stories. Rule 1: keep it short. The audience tires quickly. 2. use some background music you like, and be sure to credit it at the end so maybe people go out and buy it, 3. Try to be funny or interesting. 4. Use a video editor, and be prepared to cut off reams of boring stuff.
https://youtu.be/pZfePF_tClQ
Here is a tidbit of switching using Tyco. One does not need expensive and finicky Kadees to do interesting switching. The horn hook uncoupling ramp is pretty much junk, but a small screw driver and you as the switchman works nicely.
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Posted - September 29 2020 : 08:35:07 AM
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This is exactly why I have zero interest in layouts. They get BORING!! Like chops said, why not make a story with some stuff? You have these two lovely D&RGW engines, a gas mechanical and 2-8-0, why not start some kind of comedy starring the two? Food for thought.
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Posted - September 29 2020 : 10:33:05 AM
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Blax has a good point. Heresy, but still, a good point.
Came back from a lovely visit with eldest daughter in Albuquerque. Threw down this video to unwind after the hot, tedious drive. It is made up from "cutting room floor" scraps and set to music. It is the old Club layout, which consists of three giant loops and a lot of useless spaghetti that is hard to reach and hard to run on. It taught me that you can have the Manhattan Subway System for a layout, but if it doesn't work reliably, nothing will make it interesting. And while it took up to four minutes to complete one lap on the Club layout, it could become quite tedious watching trains going-in-circlez I enjoyed shooting video from every angle I could find and then editing up a video. Stimulated my interest level dramatically, and could include friends in the process to run trains while I shot video.
https://youtu.be/nx3676yNWuQ
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Posted - September 29 2020 : 11:48:32 AM
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thank you for all of the ideas I will for sure be doing some stories and I came up with a good track plan too
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Posted - September 29 2020 : 2:56:31 PM
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I wanna see your new track plan. I am already going to copy it for my next Old West micro layout- the two buttes and the two track levels is pretty bomb.
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Posted - September 29 2020 : 3:54:31 PM
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One way to keep a layout interesting is to have lineside industries with spur tracks and switch cars in and out of them. The real railroads exist to move stuff in this way. It can be fun working out the switching moves.
Carpe Manana!
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Posted - October 02 2020 : 04:24:38 AM
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Yup, line side industries and putting together a train. Did a little of that in this video.
https://youtu.be/vrKaTYV6VvE
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Posted - October 02 2020 : 04:40:48 AM
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quote: quote:I can't say that I ever get bored with my layout. I don't mess with it much, but it is always a breath of fresh air just to go down and look at it. Or when someone visits who sees it and says, You built the table and all, in disbelief.. Just having this stuff and more, that I had and loved as a kid is pleasing to me... I believe sometimes I go back to a peaceful time, in 1974...
Originally posted by walt - September 28 2020 : 8:51:17 PM
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its not that I get bored its just that I need to take the effort to get the track working smooth enough for my trains then I just love running them
Originally posted by Erik The Train Nerd - September 28 2020 : 9:38:19 PM
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I understand, Erik! Getting the track right can be painful. Years ago I used those tiny nails to tack my trackso it wouldn't move. I have not done that yet to this layout, because I have the raod bed to put under it.
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Posted - October 02 2020 : 10:17:17 PM
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Another thing that really "makes" a layout is the scenery - maybe try to go all out with scenicking this layout, and then in the future, if you want to change your landscaping, you can certainly do so, which helps to keep the layout "alive."
With my layouts, I like to think of them as "forever 98% complete," as I can always go back and change something down the line, to improve the layout. Kinda like how I added the quarry scene recently to the right-front corner of the Ephrata Valley Railroad - the first time I altered anything on the layout for at least a year or so.
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