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Posted - July 14 2020 : 5:15:14 PM
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Hello All..
Many of you are well aware of my activities with HO scale model railroading, what you may not know is that for the past 12 years I have also been dabbling in Hi-Rail O scale as well. I haven't written or posted anything about my O scale endeavors because I felt it fell outside of this forums scope, but on the eve of my O scale layout's dismantling I feel that this is as good a forum as any to document my Urban Railroad for posterity on the internet.
Theme
The layout features a fictitious urban area during the late 1960's. I wanted the railroad to look like it was running through a part of town that is definitely not "family friendly". Urban decay, smog, vandalism, and petty crime are the order of the day and any business establishments left in the neighborhood provide the kinds of goods and services that would not be welcome on main street.
Infrastructure Railroad infrastructure includes a locomotive servicing facility, a commuter station, multiple interlocking towers, bridges, and a partially completed working signal system.
Track Plan The layout's track plan includes two reversing loops, an elevated High Line, a three track yard, one passing siding, and two railroad crossings at grade. The layout was originally laid with MTH Real Tracks which I soon replaced with Atlas O scale switches and flex track.
Contol l The trains can be operated using Lionel's TMCC command control system or by conventional 3-rail using electronic reversing units inside each of the locomotives. Turnouts and electrical blocks are controlled by analog toggle switches on control panels located at multiple locations around the layout.
Bench Work The layout is 16 feet long by eight feet wide "table" composed of four 4x8 stand alone tables bolted together. One side is pushed up against the back wall decorated with a backdrop. Three 2 foot diameter access holes provide access to the trains, track, and scenery that can't be reached from the perimeter of the layout.
Rolling Stock Most of my locomotives are Lionel products, but I also have an MTH Union Pacific Big Boy and an Atlas GP 9. Cars were made by Intermountain, Weaver, Lionel, Walthers, Atlas, MTH and others. As I stated earlier I was originally aiming for a late 1960's look for this layout. However I found a few nice steam locomotives that I could not resist adding to my roster. The UP Big Boy for example was an impulse purchase because it was being sold half off the listed price because it came in a damaged box.
Signals One of the interlockings has fully functional automatic signals all controlled by track circuits tripping banks of electro-magnetic relays. The signals will display "proceed" indications only when the switches are lined properly and the track ahead is not occupied.
Buildings Buildings on this layout were produced by multiple manufactures, Ameritown, Walthers, Atlas, Downtown Deco, and MTH account for most of them. A couple buildings are kitbashes or completely scratch built.
Videos
Below are some videos of my O scale Urban Layout in action!!!!
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Edited by - Srenchin on July 15 2020 11:02:24 PM
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Posted - July 14 2020 : 5:23:22 PM
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Hello, long time since I've seen any O scale on here, and what a surprise! The videography is outstanding, and that helper unit is remarkable, I've not seen that done since maybe seeing the San Diego Train Club a few decades ago.
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Posted - July 14 2020 : 7:38:39 PM
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Awesome! Sometimes it is refreshing to explore a completely different avenue of the hobby. Your layout replicates what you are trying to replicate very well! It's so good, just by looking at it I'm scared I might get robbed!
Looks like the 0-8-0 blew a traction tire! Uh oh!
I look forward to more plugger rebuilds!
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Posted - July 14 2020 : 9:00:05 PM
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Very nice Scott. I also enjoy some O scale equipment.
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Posted - July 14 2020 : 10:16:24 PM
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Excellent modeling on this layout, and a fine attention to detail, I must say. Also, an interesting perspective on modeling...to say the least. Well done!
Having built layouts in both HO-Scale and O-Scale, which is better, in your eyes, and why? Is it the bigger the better, or is it more a matter of small details?
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 09:21:26 AM
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Excellent on all counts. If this is what you do when you 'dabble' can only imagine what you could create when you get serious!
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 12:26:07 PM
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quote:
Having built layouts in both HO-Scale and O-Scale, which is better, in your eyes, and why? Is it the bigger the better, or is it more a matter of small details?
Originally posted by RP model railroads - July 14 2020 : 10:16:24 PM
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That's not an easy question to answer, both scales have their attributes, here are my observations about O scale in this regard...
The "Pros" of Three Rail O Scale
First due to their sheer size, O scale equipment has enough weight and mass to feel like full size railroad equipment. An O scale train of modest length requires a certain amount of concentration to operate, especially in you have steep grades and sharp curves on your layout.
Second, due to simple size, parts are much easier to handle. If you are into scratch building or super detailing, this is a big selling point.
Third, three rail electrical systems are much easier to wire and operate. Reverse loops for example require no special wiring or operating requirements. Signals systems are also easy to install because one of the outside running rails can be used to create a block occupancy circuit, just like how prototype railroad signals work.
The "Cons" of Three Rail O Scale
The biggest drawback to O scale is just the sheer amount of space it consumes. An O scale locomotive, building, layout, etc. takes up nearly 8 times the volume of space as its HO scale counterpart. If you like to collect locomotives and cars like I do, layout and storage space quickly become an issue.
Speaking of space, three rail O Scale has a special trick up its sleeve when it comes to layout construction, most models are designed to negotiate extraordinarily tight curves. This is useful if you don't have a basketball court sized space to build a layout, tight curves are a necessity if you want a layout with a complex track plan that will fit inside a typical house. The problem with this for me is that it leads to compromises in scale accuracy for locomotives and rolling stock. Even worse, the realism that is gained by the sheer size of O scale is negated by the appearance of these big trains negotiating "toy-like" tight turns.
Three rail O scale couplers are another pet peeve of mine, HO scale couplers will mate with gentle contact, the Lionel style knuckle couplers on the other hand need to be rammed together to get them to work.
I will give this question more thought, if I think of anything more I will add it to this list.
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 12:55:47 PM
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quote:Hello, long time since I've seen any O scale on here, and what a surprise! The videography is outstanding, and that helper unit is remarkable, I've not seen that done since maybe seeing the San Diego Train Club a few decades ago.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â July 14 2020Â :Â 5:23:22 PM
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You know, shoving trains up the hill with a second locomotive reminds me a lot of what real railroading is like. It's interesting how one loco at the head end of the train can barely make it three feet up the hill, but add a shover at the rear and that train marches right up to the summit.
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 1:23:04 PM
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That is a beautiful layout. I felt like I was watching the videos in slow motion. I'm not used to seeing O scale at prototypical speeds. LOL
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 2:32:35 PM
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quote:That is a beautiful layout. I felt like I was watching the videos in slow motion. I'm not used to seeing O scale at prototypical speeds. LOL
Originally posted by DaCheez - July 15 2020 : 1:23:04 PM
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Honestly though!!
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 2:39:06 PM
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quote:That is a beautiful layout. I felt like I was watching the videos in slow motion. I'm not used to seeing O scale at prototypical speeds. LOL
Originally posted by DaCheez - July 15 2020 : 1:23:04 PM
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Ah yes, you are referring to "Lionel Speed" which is somewhere between Light Speed and Ludicrous Speed.
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 3:00:51 PM
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 3:41:09 PM
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Interesting pros and cons. I didn't even think about the fact that because O-Scale is much larger than HO, it is easier to work on and to build structures. Once again, incredible layout!
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Posted - July 15 2020 : 7:00:22 PM
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very cool & I want the Sanford & Son sign!
oh on a side note traffic lights go across the street from each other in USA need to find 4 of those in HO scale hehe
& yay for the Athern beer car! thats rare as is finding those straight beer/soda pop cans too!
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Posted - July 18 2020 : 3:40:15 PM
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Fantastic looking layout!
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Posted - July 19 2020 : 12:41:00 AM
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quote:very cool & I want the Sanford & Son sign!
oh on a side note traffic lights go across the street from each other in USA need to find 4 of those in HO scale hehe
& yay for the Athern beer car! thats rare as is finding those straight beer/soda pop cans too!
Originally posted by microbusss - July 15 2020 : 7:00:22 PM
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Actually the beer tank car is a Walthers kit, and yes they are cool! The kit works best with steel cans which are really hard to find.
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Posted - July 19 2020 : 01:12:41 AM
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All I can say is WOW.
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Posted - July 19 2020 : 10:13:07 AM
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quote:
Actually the beer tank car is a Walthers kit, and yes they are cool! The kit works best with steel cans which are really hard to find. Originally posted by Srenchin - July 19 2020 : 12:41:00 AM
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yeah & can be expensive cause they are very collectible was part of Walther's Tongue-In-Cheek lineup it includes Jimmy Carters peanut shaped passenger car Peanut One , JailBox boxcar (parody of RailBox) Oscar & Piker passenger cars, Impact Test Car, & beer/soda pop can car
I do want JailBox!
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