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 Posted - December 09 2016 : 9:45:24 PM
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After some date changing (1955-->1966), I started rethinking what exactly will be rusting/cut up in the scrapyard. Scrap is received from the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Baltimore & Ohio, from which I've found much more info for the Pennsylvania than the B&O.
Pennsy Scrap
P-5A(Steeplecab) - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4524494
P-5A(Boxcab) - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4524499
B-1 - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4524498
RF-16A/RF-16B - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4530891
Parlor Cars/Small amount of steam - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4530901
GP7/Alco S2? - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4530888
FM Erie Built - http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4528411
Now with B&O I can't find much. The only solid "this was certainly scrapped" was this picture of two H-16-44s on the deadline at Curtis Bay - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1220045
Anyone else have any idea what'd be scrapped at this point in time? I imagine the F-units would begin to hit the axe at this point, as would older Alcos. I also imagine many passenger cars would mean the torch, and whatever wooden rolling stock remained.
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Also since they cut track maintaince the trains had huge trouble making over the railroad by the end
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Posted - December 09 2016 : 9:52:34 PM
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Remaining heavyweights and wooden-bodieds would certainly be being scrapped or else downgraded to MOW service at that point, yeah. Lightweight passenger cars less so, since they were newer and more desirable for remaining services, but there probably would be some
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Posted - December 09 2016 : 10:29:26 PM
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| Those boxcabs are really neat. Would they really begin to start scraping F-Units in '66? Didn't people run them up until the 70s?
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Posted - December 09 2016 : 11:59:20 PM
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They did, but by '66 the older ones like the FTs (the newest of which were 21 years old by that point) would have been rather worn out as well as outclassed.
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Posted - December 10 2016 : 07:27:50 AM
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Yeah, that's why I said begin to hit the axe, even though they did certainly run until the 70s. On the same note, GP7/9s still certainly run until today, but one of my pictures actually shows a few in the PRR deadline already.
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Also since they cut track maintaince the trains had huge trouble making over the railroad by the end
純那
yeah
They did a Rock Island volountarily
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Posted - December 10 2016 : 09:21:40 AM
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* I liked going through those photos. Old Pennsy diesels are always interesting. Especially Sharks and those large Baldwin transfer diesels.
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Posted - December 10 2016 : 09:47:59 AM
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Yeah, it's really surprising how many were already in the deadline. Apparently Baldwin banked on the Pennsy quite hard, and when Pennsy went to other manufacturers they crashed and burned. (This, and the following lack of parts may explain why they've entered the deadline).
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Also since they cut track maintaince the trains had huge trouble making over the railroad by the end
純那
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Posted - December 10 2016 : 12:19:05 PM
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This is an interesting topic, for those of you with access to back issues of Trains Magazine, I recommend the following Article....
"Keeping Diesels Going on the Water Level Route" by Harold B. Crouch, Trains Magazine, January 1986
This article was written by a Diesel Locomotive Expert who worked with the New York Central, Penn Central, and Conrail. In this article he writes about the quirks of the products of each of the locomotive builders and why some locomotive types were retired earlier than others.
At the end of the article he said the following:....
"Speaking of costs, using maintenance costs on EMD's as unity. Alcos were 1.5 times as expensive, Baldwins were 3 times, and FM's were 4 times . . . so you can see why the expensive units were the first to go."
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Posted - December 10 2016 : 2:47:10 PM
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quote:Those boxcabs are really neat. Would they really begin to start scraping F-Units in '66? Didn't people run them up until the 70s?
Originally posted by kristofer4301Â -Â December 09 2016Â :Â 10:29:26 PM
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A few still run them to this day:
I shot this in Peoria, IL earlier this year. It runs in workaday freight service between Keokuk, IA and Peoria on the Keokuk Jct. RR (a Pioneer Rail company). These are the odd holdouts, though. Most are either scrapped or museum pieces.
From a Tyco perspective, I like the KJ because it uses F9's and a GP20, the mainstay of Tyco diesels.
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