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Whenever I research the decades that different designs of trucks were in use, I always come across the phrase "banned from the interchange." However, I am not clear on how extensive the reach of these bans were. Arch bar trucks, for example, were banned from the interchange by 1940. So does this mean that they were, by law or any other reason, taken out of use entirely? Or were there ever circumstances in which arch bar trucks may appear, e.g. short line railroads, maintenance cars, etc.?

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lotta the older trucks or bogies on freight car will be modified so that the older trucks will accept the Roller Bearings
most will take off the doors that cover the axle
So the older trucks will be found in museums or on tourist railroads
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Banned in interchange just means it can't leave its home railroad for another railroad. There are still arch bar trucks in use in places where they are not interchanged. For example, the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic RR is narrow gauge and landlocked so it does no interchange and has lots of arch bar trucks and journal bearings.

I can't recall specifics, but I have seen arch bar trucks on the tenders of some steam locomotives in museums. Those locomotives probably did run on short lines after 1940 but would not have been interchanged.

Ben mentions roller bearings, and I'm pretty sure you need them in interchange, but in captive museum or short line service you can still find journal bearings.

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Spring Hill in El Paso, Texas. Tender had arch bars.
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Not that the photos give a good look at that :P
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Thanks all. So it sounds like, if you are going for realism. to stick with era-specific trucks, unless you are running only one specific railroad with its own cars. Am I interpreting correctly?
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Model Railroad Hobbyist (MRH) had an excellent article on trucks in the May 2013 issue.

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/magazine/mrh-2013-05-may/freight-trucks-1900-1960

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Model Railroad Hobbyist (MRH) had an excellent article on trucks in the May 2013 issue.

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/magazine/mrh-2013-05-may/freight-trucks-1900-1960

Originally posted by Helm - December 05 2016 :  08:32:31 AM



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Don't forget that, in the real world, cabooses often had leaf springs instead of coil springs. Athearn picked up on this, so you'll see this on most of their cabooses. However, cheaper brands like Tyco used regular freight trucks for everything.

I'm not a sticker for detail. I figure that if it looks good enough, and it runs well enough, I'm running it. Freight trucks under passenger cars? Doesn't really look right. Freight trucks under a caboose? Close enough!

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Yeah, freight trucks under passenger cars.. There's just too much difference in frame and size, at least with American stock. You can get away with it on British outline stuff because the frames are considerably more alike.
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quote:
I'm not a sticker for detail. I figure that if it looks good enough, and it runs well enough, I'm running it. Freight trucks under passenger cars? Doesn't really look right. Freight trucks under a caboose? Close enough!

Originally posted by weekendrailroader - December 05 2016 :  3:19:32 PM



It's funny, when I run the trains, I am at a far enough distance that I can't even really see the truck detail. But for some reason, I always want the appropriate trucks on cars. Every once in a while, I come across a mid-century car that has either 70-ton or 100-ton trucks on it, and I always swap them out, even though I couldn't see the difference in most typical viewing situations.
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