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I want that & the WP loco! Originally posted by microbusss - November 04 2016 :  8:18:59 PM

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I've seen a few NP sharks here and there this year, but yes they are rare. I found out the hard way that the NYC are at least as rare, if not more so. The NP sharks certainly have 3 screw motors don't they? Power truck in the front I'm sure. I managed to dig up 3 NYC Sharks over the summer, no easy feat. Every one of them had the old single screw PT, and they all have the power truck in the rear. They were made that way because the wiring harnesses were unmolested and were wired that way. They're all running, still with PT power. Originally posted by time warp - November 04 2016 :  9:51:47 PM

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I'm probably going to hang on to them, I use the first pair on coal drags running AA powered and the third is a spare. They pull well when you double them up. Originally posted by time warp - November 08 2016 :  3:27:16 PM

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Great find, I got mine from eBay about two years ago. Even though the GM&O GP20 and the NP Shark was only made one year, they must have not manufactured as many sharks as the geep. Where did you find your at? Originally posted by GG-1 Guy - November 10 2016 :  09:42:58 AM

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time warp - I hate the break it to you, but the NYC shark is not rare and certainly not as rare as the NP shark. The NP shark is a legend along with the Cotton Belt F9, which in my opinion is are two of the top five rarest TYCO 's out there. I have almost all of the TYCO trains, the only ones I need are the really ultra rare ones, the one most serious TYCO collectors need. I recently acquired another car off the top five rare list, the Western Pacific Caboose. I have wanted one for years and I had never seen one come up for sale anywhere. So about 3 months ago one came up and I paid over $300 bucks for it, something I would never do it again, but I don't regret it. Originally posted by GG-1 Guy - November 12 2016 :  09:26:06 AM

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I appreciate the info, GG1 guy. I bought mine for nostalgia, not rarity. I was surprised how hard they were to find, so I figure they're not common for sure. The NYC's I've found all have single screw PT's so I know they are all early production apparently. The most common sharks are almost certainly the Rock Island, maybe followed by Midnight Specials? I found a Yellow/ Blue Santa Fe 430 a couple days ago, never saw that before. Originally posted by time warp - November 13 2016 :  07:41:08 AM

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The interesting thing is that the NYC and D&H Sharks are actually the same locomotive. The NYC Sharks were traded in and ended up going to the Monongahela, sold for scrap later except the 1205 and 1216 which ended up in D&H paint. Neat fact: Louis Marre witnessed one of the original NYC Sharks cranking out 1600 H.P. on the dyno towards the end of their careers, and the unit had never been overhauled! I love em! Originally posted by time warp - November 13 2016 :  4:39:15 PM

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quote: The interesting thing is that the NYC and D&H Sharks are actually the same locomotive. The NYC Sharks were traded in and ended up going to the Monongahela, sold for scrap later except the 1205 and 1216 which ended up in D&H paint. Neat fact: Louis Marre witnessed one of the original NYC Sharks cranking out 1600 H.P. on the dyno towards the end of their careers, and the unit had never been overhauled! I love em! Originally posted by time warp - November 13 2016 :  4:39:15 PM Definitely a unique design. Wish there were surviving examples of these units. Originally posted by kristofer4301 - November 13 2016 :  5:12:51 PM

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The 2 that survived are in storage in Michigan. They are inside now. Originally posted by chevelle454 - November 13 2016 :  5:26:28 PM

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I bought my 4th NYC a couple days ago on EBay for $35, but there is another one on there at the moment. I don't need 5! I think the $50 remark was the NP. I agree that I wouldn't criticize what someone pays for something, value has nothing to do with price. Originally posted by time warp - November 17 2016 :  10:02:44 AM

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You got a better deal than I did! Congratulations! I actually was going to bump the bid on the one you got, but I fell asleep. I hope yours runs as good as mine. My AA pair on the coal drag got gutted and updated to late PT's, switched to front drive and black sideframes( they look MUCH better that way). Sweet running locos. I'm glad we've got something in common. Originally posted by time warp - November 19 2016 :  8:30:00 PM

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Nice find. You don't see them much on ebay in my opinion or at all. Originally posted by Alco Fan - November 24 2016 :  5:00:44 PM

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The Riverossi Super 630's are pretty rare

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How did you come out on your NYC? Mine showed up last week and is very nice. Runs like new. Originally posted by time warp - November 24 2016 :  8:43:31 PM

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Odd that they painted most of them as Rock Island Originally posted by time warp - November 26 2016 :  07:46:03 AM