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 Posted - January 24 2015 : 09:36:00 AM
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Browsing ebay, have been stumbling into what is described as "new" IHC locos. Some with DCC/Sound. Made in China.
The shells look like old tooling but the paint jobs look upgraded.
Can't find much info on them online, other than vague posts about folks hearing production was moving to China around 2009 or so.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-IHC-NEW-HAVEN-F-3-A-LOCO-EMD-NEW-HAVEN-F-3-A-INTERNATIONAL-HOBBY/350594244538?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3De5966366e6204fd7a88e1cb4b48efdfd%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D350776975272&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-IHC-KATY-SPECIAL-F-3-A-LOCO-DCC-SOUND-ONBOARD-EMD-F-3-A-IHC-TEXAS-SPECIAL-/350776975272?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item51abefdfa8
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Posted - January 24 2015 : 10:38:25 AM
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Huh. Other than the links you gave, I couldn't really find anything on IHC's supposed return. For all we know, these diesels might literally just be kitbashed IHC F-3 units that whoever posted it made from an unopened IHC loco. On top of that, they're website is still up and they appear to have some DCC sound locomotives in stock... Very odd and confusing. 
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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Posted - January 24 2015 : 12:12:35 PM
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quote:Huh. Other than the links you gave, I couldn't really find anything on IHC's supposed return. For all we know, these diesels might literally just be kitbashed IHC F-3 units that whoever posted it made from an unopened IHC loco. On top of that, they're website is still up and they appear to have some DCC sound locomotives in stock... Very odd and confusing.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â January 24 2015Â :Â 10:38:25 AM
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Yes it is. There are a lot of these IHC F3 locos on ebay in various liveries, ranging from around $50 for the base DC and on up to $128 for the DCC/Sound units. If they are kitbashes, then it looks like they were done in a factory
The IHC website is "IHC Texas". No mention of any of these new F3's there that I could find.
Very odd.
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Posted - January 24 2015 : 8:16:01 PM
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Didn't Model Power sell these as F-2's?
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Posted - January 24 2015 : 8:27:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is the same as the Model Power "F2" which has its roots in the Marx F3 from the 1950s
http://hoseeker.org/gallery/index.php?album=hotrains3%2Fmarx
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Posted - January 24 2015 : 9:35:23 PM
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The shell sure is the same! I knew I had seen that before somewhere.
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Posted - January 25 2015 : 11:05:56 PM
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try here
http://www.ihc-hobby.com/
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 06:38:37 AM
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I did look over that site originally, but could not find any reference at all to these "new" locos.
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 08:58:13 AM
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| With Model Power gone and the number of corporations that have had access to that shell anyone could have the mold to that shell and have modified almost any drive for it. I used one of those for a Bachmann Plus drive at one time. F units have are large enough that it is easy to make things fit.
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 12:50:30 PM
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quote:With Model Power gone and the number of corporations that have had access to that shell anyone could have the mold to that shell and have modified almost any drive for it. I used one of those for a Bachmann Plus drive at one time. F units have are large enough that it is easy to make things fit.
Originally posted by tkruger - January 26 2015 : 08:58:13 AM
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Granted, the "F2" shell could have been sourced from a number of different companies...and there could be a wide range of chassis underneath it. The physical/mechanical makeup of these locos don't interest me as much as the marketing aspect. Namely, that there is an individual or company offering these (apparently new) locos in a steady, long-term quantity on ebay - and in a number of color schemes and option levels. The only description being "IHC" and that they are produced in China.
It just piques my curiosity to know the backstory on them, as most of the back stories I have read from model railroad manufacturers usually turn out to be a "who would have thunk that?" sort of thing. And what makes this story all the more fascinating is that there seems to be ZERO information/speculation/rumor about these locos anywhere on the net....
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 1:09:01 PM
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Most of the Marx HO Tooling went to Model Power.
http://www.marx-trains.com/ho-trains/index.html
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 2:25:35 PM
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Jerry,
A Few possibilities.
1. Excess stock from from Model Power from China/Hong Kong sold to individual or small company by former MP contract production company.
2. Stock produced by China/Hong Kong production with old tools sold to individual or small company by former MP contract production company. The models may have been produced with out permission?
An HO engine is small potatoes.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/11/27/chinese-automaker-copies-range-rover-evoque/
3. This is new Mehano (European) production form the old molds. Most likely!
http://www.ihc-hobby.com/product/M6822DS
http://www.ihc-hobby.com/product/M6008DS
Regards, John
When I was growing up, my parents told me, 'Finish your dinner. People in China and India are starving.' I tell my daughters, 'Finish your homework. People in India and China are starving for your job.' <> Thomas Friedman
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 3:49:18 PM
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AHA! You found them on the site! Thank you John.
However, according to the ebay auctions, these locos are of Chinese production in 2012. Which does fit the scant bit of hearsay I have been able to glean from my searches.
I'm getting to the point where I'm going to get one just to disect it.
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Posted - January 26 2015 : 6:54:35 PM
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Jerry,
If you look at the seller on Ebay [Railroad Ron and PJ] and then look at IHC's new site. The address for both are the same. Click Contact Info.
http://www.railroad-ron.com/
http://www.ihc-hobby.com/
I also noticed that the engine listed as a F2B in one of the train sets is really a Alco FB. The Model Power company did this as well. This appears to be some of same line as IHC and Model power sold.
Regards, John
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Posted - February 15 2015 : 10:20:13 PM
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Here's a bit of info:
I picked up an IHC steamer (GN) missing every add-on part (new in the box...someone ripped the end open and stole the bits).
I found the same outfit in Texas, I think, referred to here. But, I also found the guy back east who used to work for IHC and actually has the parts. He told me the Texas outfit bought the website domain. That's it. So now they are "IHC", but they aren't. The locos are Mehano, still made....the new IHC can import the Mehano units just like anybody else. Or, they can commission PRC units and call them IHC. Guess where they come from? Sanda Kan or parent Kader is my first guess. That's what I was told...and I did get all the parts...loco now complete.
Dave
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