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 Posted - November 11 2014 : 7:16:24 PM
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And all my friends said that caboose design never existed! 
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Not mine, credit to the original photographer...
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 Posted - November 11 2014 : 7:33:24 PM
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Santa Fe had some of those, too, I believe.
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 8:06:01 PM
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quote:And all my friends said that caboose design never existed!
Originally posted by rgcw5Â -Â November 11 2014Â :Â 7:16:24 PM
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Illinois Railway Museum still has a caboose of that design and road name, so not only did it exist, it still does.
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 8:17:37 PM
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I thought the NW had some from the Wabash Railroad.
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 8:45:19 PM
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quote:I thought the NW had some from the Wabash Railroad.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - November 11 2014 : 8:17:37 PM
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Not sure where I first heard it, but I've always known those as "wabash cabooses"
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 10:26:16 PM
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Doesn't look like Tyco to me. More resembles the HO caboose commonly found in Bachmann train sets.
Wabash Prototype http://www.pwrr.org/prototype/Durbin/Durbin23.jpg
Norfolk Western Prototype
https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/selectdocs.php?index=rs&id=865
CB&Q Prototype
http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/fileSendAction/fcType/0/fcOid/12129988042952312/filePointer/12129988045887647/fodoid/12129988045887640/imageType/LARGE/inlineImage/true/BN10358L.jpg
Burlington Northern Prototype
http://trainweb.org/screamingeagle/gallery/bn/bn_caboose_brownsvillene_a.jpg
Ann Arbor Prototype
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/17569/AA2831-Caboose_Traverse-City_09-4-2006a.JPG
DT&I Prototype
http://trainweb.org/annarbor/Rosters/caboose/caboose_8.gif
Overland Models Kit
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Liska47/omi/pict0162.jpg
Bachmann Model
http://ho-scaletrains.net/bachmannhoscalerollingstock/id74.html
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 10:39:21 PM
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Here's the Tyco job for comparison
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Posted - November 11 2014 : 10:43:22 PM
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Also note that Great Northern used streamlined cabooses, but they were somewhat different visually.http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/gn/gnx3-1.jpg
The common Tyco streamlined caboose appears to be based off of a style of caboose used by the Pennsylvania Railroad, except that Tyco moved the cupola off center
Tyco streamlined caboose.http://tycotrain.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/tyco_wabash_cannonball_caboose.jpg
PRR Prototype.
http://www.railrelicstoday.com/hacks/Pennsy.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/11/6e/b9/general-view-of-one-of.jpg
Perhaps Tyco got their idea from the common Marx tinplate toy?http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/CBUAAMXQfvlSfYWf/$T2eC16J,!wwFJdbc4bNkBSfYWfq3Fw~~60_35.JPG
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Posted - November 12 2014 : 12:11:19 AM
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theres one of them BN streamlined ex-CB&Q cabooses here at a museum
Anytime you sees them streamlined cabooses in BN its obviously a ex-CB&Q
Always hated those off center cupolas running that way
To me it looks backwards BUT I know they ran them that way
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Posted - November 12 2014 : 10:42:06 AM
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quote:
wr:
There is an even closer prototype, which is the PRR N8:
http://berwickrailfan.webs.com/caboosephotos/PRR478044B.jpg
The N8 has the recessed end platforms with shields, and looks almost exactly like the Tyco caboose with a centered cupola and four equal sized windows. It was introduced in 1950, and I think the Tyco version came seven years later, which would seem to make the offset cupola a deliberate and mind-boggling design choice.
Why Tyco did it, I don't know. It isn't the only time they genericized a specific prototype. The Shifter is basically a PRR A5 with the Pennsy details replaced with generic ones, but the one weird change to the caboose doesn't really make it any less distinctively Pennsy...
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Posted - November 12 2014 : 3:36:02 PM
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WR and Autobus - great posts, it seems so obvious what Tyco did now - but I was never aware of it before.
Makes me want to kitbash a couple of Tyco cabooses into the original prototype design.
http://tycodepot.com/
Edited by - JNXT 7707 on November 12 2014 3:37:21 PM
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Posted - November 12 2014 : 4:40:12 PM
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I've seen something similar done by cutting out the cupola and center section of the roof as a unit and flipping it around to center the cupola, but that doesn't address the window arrangement or the length difference.
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Posted - November 12 2014 : 6:47:16 PM
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quote:
Makes me want to kitbash a couple of Tyco cabooses into the original prototype design.
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â November 12 2014Â :Â 3:36:02 PM
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you do that I want one too
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Posted - November 13 2014 : 01:52:50 AM
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You could just use the one from life like that is a dead ringer, there is one of these that is stuffed and mounted at a city park in St. Charles Mo. in full Wabash colors. I will see if I have some pics.In the meantime here are a couple of cabooses I have modified. The Conrail one is made from two Tyco cars. The C&EI car is a stock Life Like with a repaint. C&EI actually did have a couple of these but they never made it to the Mopac paint scheme. After the merger the cars had there copulas removed and replaced with run of the mill square Magor type copulas before entering the pool on the Mopac. I just wanted one in the post merger scheme with the more stylish copula. 
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Posted - November 13 2014 : 06:39:32 AM
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Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 13 2014Â :Â 01:52:50 AM
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Love that Conrail caboose! Great job on the windows too 
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - November 13 2014 : 09:28:36 AM
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quote: quote:
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 13 2014Â :Â 01:52:50 AM
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Love that Conrail caboose! Great job on the windows too
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â November 13 2014Â :Â 06:39:32 AM
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You're right, JNXT. Tyco should've made their caboose like this to begin with. With less detail, of course.
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Posted - November 13 2014 : 09:37:16 AM
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JNXT:
ICG actually picked up some of the PRR N8s and repainted them. The price must have been right, because nothing I have ever heard about PRR caboose comfort or PRR caboose maintenance has been complimentary.
The scheme isn't quite like the Tyco ICG caboose, it was plain orange with the large 'i' graphic and regular non-condensed black lettering...but it still looks very Tyco to see ICG paint on a Pennsy car. :)
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Posted - November 13 2014 : 11:42:38 AM
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Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 13 2014Â :Â 01:52:50 AM
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I want one!
Bowser in May 2015 will make these cabooses in PRR, PC, CR & ICG
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 12:57:59 AM
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| I cant wait to see the Bowser versions. Thanks for the compliments on the Conrail car. Those flush fitting windows were a real pain in the ---.
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 08:48:46 AM
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quote:You could just use the one from life like that is a dead ringer, there is one of these that is stuffed and mounted at a city park in St. Charles Mo. in full Wabash colors. I will see if I have some pics.In the meantime here are a couple of cabooses I have modified. The Conrail one is made from two Tyco cars. The C&EI car is a stock Life Like with a repaint. C&EI actually did have a couple of these but they never made it to the Mopac paint scheme. After the merger the cars had there copulas removed and replaced with run of the mill square Magor type copulas before entering the pool on the Mopac. I just wanted one in the post merger scheme with the more stylish copula
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 13 2014Â :Â 01:52:50 AM
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Well the red caboose seen here is more of a match than the tyco one. It is Bachmann and not life like.
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 10:51:28 AM
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Here is my Bachmann caboose.
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 1:29:02 PM
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quote:Thanks for the compliments on the Conrail car. Those flush fitting windows were a real pain in the ---.
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 14 2014Â :Â 12:57:59 AM
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Painful as they were, they make that caboose. I always thought those big gaping unglazed windows in the Tyco streamlined caboose condemned it to looking toy-like. Now that you glazed them, though, that caboose looks like the real thing.
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 4:34:22 PM
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| Ok so those streamlined cabooses are made by Bachman, not Life Like..my bad.
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 6:15:32 PM
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quote:Ok so those streamlined cabooses are made by Bachman, not Life Like..my bad.
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â November 14 2014Â :Â 4:34:22 PM
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yeah they a cheap crap caboose anyway BUT are good for kitbashing
So if you see one for a rediculous amount Don't buy it
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 7:31:06 PM
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Even MORE Tyco style cabooses, these were once part of the Ann Arbor RR
Just click on the blue numbers on the far left of your screen to see the photos.
#1 does not work for whatever reason
#2 , 3 , 4 are of older wooden cabooseses
#5 thru 18 are the Tyco styles ! Enjoy
http://trainweb.org/annarbor/Rosters/caboose/CabooseRoster.html
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Posted - November 14 2014 : 7:37:28 PM
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You know it's almost as if a perfect kitbash would be the Tyco cupola on top of the Bachmann caboose.
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - November 18 2014 : 03:11:17 AM
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| Bowser is re-issuing the same caboose they initially offered as a kit a few years ago; I still have a PRR one in my inventory. They weren't cheap, about $30, and the assembled ones will probably sell for about that, but they look super nice.
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