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 Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:45:37 PM
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** Pulling and Quartering **
* Most importantly is giving a good look over to the locomotive you are working on.
See if one side is insulated and which it is. How is the left side factory quartered in reference to the right side. You reference to the wheel turning in the forward direction. Mantua and tyco quarter there locos with the right side lagging by 90 degrees. Their right side is also the locomotive electrical pickup side.
* I'll start with a photo of the tools I use.
* What you see here is upper left NWSL quartering tool, NWSL pulling tool, below is a vice clamp, then a small gear puller.
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:47:14 PM
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Thanks for showing this! Definite help with my upcoming repairs and upgrades.
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:49:09 PM
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* Second photo is NWSL puller set to pull solid pick up wheel from axel. If I have a choice I leave on the insulated wheel. It is a personal preference.
more to come
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:51:15 PM
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photo 3 is the gear puller set up to removing the wheel.
more to come
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:53:03 PM
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* photo 4 is a bad photo of the wheel apart. you can see it is apart..
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 12:56:53 PM
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* Photo 5 is starting to replace the wheel. a little push put it all together and still leaves it loss enough to adjust the angle of quartering. You can see in this photo that the axel wheels are not in gauge. you can also see the quartering tool there .
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 1:00:54 PM
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* Photo 6 is the quartering tool held in a vice, it has been properly pressed on press on. You can see the gauge is correct.
more to come
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 1:15:18 PM
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Here is a photo of the wheel replacement set up in the quartering tool. this is the insulated wheel side, the v slot is facing up and the screw is to the left.
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 1:21:17 PM
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Last a photo looking down on the wheel set in the quartering tool. Remember the long screw is in the insulated wheel, it is on the left side.
I hope all this helps.
frank
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Posted - September 28 2014 : 6:54:51 PM
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Nice tutorial, Frank. Where did you find that steel puller? It looks like it may have some age on it. Most pullers on the market (aside from NWSL) can't remove anything larger than small gears.
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 Posted - September 28 2014 : 9:26:28 PM
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Hi toptrain,
Great tutorial!
Now, I'm not really a steam engine kind of guy, but I do have some.
I am wondering what kind of problems come about from out of quarter wheels?
Also, do these problems apply to steam engines with the motor in the tender?
Thanks for sharing this.
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Posted - September 30 2014 : 9:53:31 PM
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quote:I am wondering what kind of problems come about from out of quarter wheels?
Also, do these problems apply to steam engines with the motor in the tender?
Originally posted by mytyco - September 28 2014 : 9:26:28 PM
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The connecting rods will bind on an out of quarter wheel. This is true whether the engine is driven from the drivers or the tender.
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Posted - October 01 2014 : 07:46:13 AM
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quote:Nice tutorial, Frank. Where did you find that steel puller? It looks like it may have some age on it. Most pullers on the market (aside from NWSL) can't remove anything larger than small gears.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â September 28 2014Â :Â 6:54:51 PM
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Hi Nelson. I went one day to the Giant Stadium flea market, or maybe it was the Saylorsburg PA. one, and there are people there always selling old tools. I got it there. It is a small gear puller.
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Posted - October 01 2014 : 07:52:40 AM
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quote:Hi toptrain,
Great tutorial!
Now, I'm not really a steam engine kind of guy, but I do have some.
I am wondering what kind of problems come about from out of quarter wheels?
Also, do these problems apply to steam engines with the motor in the tender?
Thanks for sharing this.
Mytyco
Originally posted by mytyco - September 28 2014 : 9:26:28 PM
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If they are slightly out of quarter they bind up and get a point at which they need force to clear. If out of quarter a lot they wont turn at all.
frank
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Posted - October 04 2014 : 07:54:44 AM
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Hi,
Thanks for letting me know what kind of problems this causes.
I have a 2 8 2 that has issues, maybe this is part of the problem.
Thanks again.
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Posted - October 04 2014 : 9:22:11 PM
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| Great photo story Frank and good instructions. Thank you.
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