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 Posted - August 09 2014 : 7:26:59 PM
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I got this car in the latest batch of loot from my pal David's train shop.
The Railhead.
Kit seems to be wood with metal underframe and brake rigging.
The skin is either paper or foil, lettering is printed on.
Any guesses or learned opinions?
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Posted - August 10 2014 : 02:05:41 AM
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Posted - August 10 2014 : 07:23:00 AM
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quote:Laconia
Originally posted by waw47Â -Â August 10 2014Â :Â 02:05:41 AM
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"Laconia," he answered laconically. 
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Posted - August 10 2014 : 11:19:03 PM
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Laconia-Binkley Mathieson Dry Ice Car.
The prototype cars were built by ACF in 1933 for service hauling dry ice out of Saltville, VA on the N&W. The metal underframe is totally not original - these were cardboard-side and wood cars. In any case, to complete it you will need to add ladders like so:
They replaced Mathieson's fleet of silver-painted OB wooden reefers. These were produced in HO by Ambroid - I have a spare one that someone else assembled about 75%, in box with most parts, that I'd sell if you're interested in building a fleet of dry ice cars.
Other dry ice reefer models in HO scale include a Varney rendition of a similar car built for the Liquid Carbonic Corp. with center doors and inside conveyor belts instead of 8 doors per side:
And a Red Ball ATSF dry ice reefer. The December 1940 issue of Model Railroader ran a special advertisement for Red Ball freight cars, a paperboard insert with a pair of printed car sides for this car as a "Christmas Gift" from Red Ball. The normal kit form is shown here, but all the prototype photos I know I've seen on the net appear to have vanished.
I've found all of the above cars, but am too lazy to dig them out for pictures. In addition, I know SOMEONE has made a model of this car but I can find no information on it:
Also, Train Miniature made a double-sheathed version of a Mathieson car, however they never owned any of this type of reefer.
I'll shut up now. Hopefully I haven't bored anyone to death, and perhaps you'll find some more of these interesting, rarely found cars! Sincerely, the resident Dry Ice Reefer expert 
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Posted - August 11 2014 : 9:47:15 PM
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Speaking of Trains Miniature and dry ice:
I got this one for Christmas about 40 years ago, give or take a few.
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Posted - August 12 2014 : 12:06:35 AM
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Great replies, guys.
I did find the site refering to the prototypes, but somehow missed the model under Laconia in HOSeeker. Found some very nice modern kits.
Now I'll have to make ladders, etc. (Yay, another project)
Thanks all.
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Posted - August 12 2014 : 08:32:59 AM
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Hey Connor you show a unbuilt red ball dry ice car in a ATSF road name. Here is one by a company named RAILWAY MODELS. I have it in its box. One of a group of 4 different cars made by Railway Models.
Also the Trainminiature Mathieson car is my photo, taken on my layout. I don't mind you using it just give me credit for the photo. It adds to you collection of information, in a very informative response to the posts request. Just give me some credit.
Frank
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Edited by - toptrain on August 17 2014 6:03:58 PM
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Posted - August 12 2014 : 12:17:56 PM
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quote:Hey Connor you show a unbuilt red ball dry ice car in a ATSF road name. Here is one by a company named RAILWAY MODELS. I have it in its box. One of a group of 4 different cars made by Railway Models.
Also the Trainminiature Mathieson car is my photo, taken on my layout. I don't mind you using it. It adds to you collection of information, in a very informative response to the posts request. Just give me some credit.
Frank
Originally posted by toptrain - August 12 2014 : 08:32:59 AM
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I had forgotten about those. Sunshine also made some urethane kits for these reefers, from what I've heard they're NOT fun to assemble.
And sorry about that :( I'd just taken that one straight from google... should've recognized your layout!
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Posted - August 12 2014 : 1:16:43 PM
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Yep Connors if you checked the page you'de have seen toptrain. As to building one you detail the floor bottom, glue inside wood end pieces on, fasten the 4 walls to what you put together, then put a roof on it. Add the roof detail, ladders, trucks, couplers, and whatever else you got and what's left is a dry ice car.
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Posted - August 14 2014 : 06:19:50 AM
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| Varney also had a short-lived cardstock and wood kit for a dry ice car in 1947.
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Posted - August 17 2014 : 1:46:26 PM
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I got 2 of these with the ladders. Never knew who made them
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Posted - August 17 2014 : 11:05:32 PM
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quote:Varney also had a short-lived cardstock and wood kit for a dry ice car in 1947.
Originally posted by lvrr325Â -Â August 14 2014Â :Â 06:19:50 AM
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That's the liquid carbonic car... a nice model, but they missed the roof cant (the prototype matched the mathieson car's shape, but only Laconia got it right). Mine looks like crap ATM before I repaint the roof and frame.
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Posted - August 19 2014 : 10:01:05 AM
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| Great documentation on these dry ice cars. Nice collection of cars.
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