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My LOTW this week is an N scale Arnold Alco S-2 switcher in Milwaukee Road livery. It doesn't run too bad. Just needs a little cleaning. I also got this in a free lot with a ton of model railroading scenery, N scale rolling stock, etc.
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 1:07:17 PM
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Memories of Mingo Jct.! Last week we had a posting of a sharp Penn Central C-424 from AHM. Here is a "sister" unit in former PC black re-lettered for Conrail with a trailing C-430 from Tyco riding on a hybridized Athearn SD-40 Chassis with AMD-103 trucks. The AHM unit runs pretty good but makes a weird bell-like clinking sound when it runs. I have never been able to track down the sound. Anyone else ever had this experience with these units? 
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 1:21:18 PM
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quote:Memories of Mingo Jct.! Last week we had a posting of a sharp Penn Central C-424 from AHM. Here is a "sister" unit in former PC black re-lettered for Conrail with a trailing C-430 from Tyco riding on a hybridized Athearn SD-40 Chassis with AMD-103 trucks. The AHM unit runs pretty good but makes a weird bell-like clinking sound when it runs. I have never been able to track down the sound. Anyone else ever had this experience with these units?
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Nice looking unit 
Have never heard that sound on mine, but mine is the only one I have had as yet. Is yours 8-wheel drive? Mine is not, although you certainly can't tell by the way it pulls. Interesting thing in the HO resource write-up on these it describes them as having 8-wheel drive. When I took the shell off, the motor has a coupling on the rear motor shaft but the rear truck is unpowered.
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 2:35:37 PM
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Wow! H'aint seen that since 1976
on my first railfan trip in Hackensack,
NJ. GG1 blazing down old Pennsy
main line, hauling a fast dog. Same
paint scheme (boo hoo). Nice work!!
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 3:38:14 PM
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here are 2 Burlington locos that were in the $10 box
SD45
the railings need to be fixed on this one 
The Tyco Santa Fe
this the ONLY HO powered loco that was in that box
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 9:22:38 PM
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Yo Steve, for a moment I thought you had snuck into my house and were taking pictures.
Here is photo of my S-2. An AHM in HO scale. A real smooth runner.
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 10:30:13 PM
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quote:Yo Steve, for a moment I thought you had snuck into my house and were taking pictures.
Here is photo of my S-2. An AHM in HO scale. A real smooth runner.
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I can see why.Nice LOTW nonetheless.
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Posted - July 20 2014 : 11:45:20 PM
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Mine also has only one powered truck and the open frame motor of days past. Still, it is a good runner.As far as the clanging sound goes, the best that I can figure is that it from a slight contact with the universal shaft on the big lead weight that covers the drivetrain.I think it is hard to find because I have been running it with the weight removed when the shell is off for service. It runs quiet without the weight but I still can find no evidence of contact. Oh well...I can live with it. quote: quote:Memories of Mingo Jct.! Last week we had a posting of a sharp Penn Central C-424 from AHM. Here is a "sister" unit in former PC black re-lettered for Conrail with a trailing C-430 from Tyco riding on a hybridized Athearn SD-40 Chassis with AMD-103 trucks. The AHM unit runs pretty good but makes a weird bell-like clinking sound when it runs. I have never been able to track down the sound. Anyone else ever had this experience with these units?
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â July 20 2014Â :Â 1:07:17 PM
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Nice looking unit
Have never heard that sound on mine, but mine is the only one I have had as yet. Is yours 8-wheel drive? Mine is not, although you certainly can't tell by the way it pulls. Interesting thing in the HO resource write-up on these it describes them as having 8-wheel drive. When I took the shell off, the motor has a coupling on the rear motor shaft but the rear truck is unpowered.
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Posted - July 21 2014 : 02:53:15 AM
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The AHM / Roco C-424 never had a powered rear truck, in spite of the extra universal socket. If they planned to have 8 wheel drive, it was struck from the budget (but odd that they would waste a socket like that). The motor is a noisy 5 pole plastic MU-2 clone. Roco obviously got the rights to make this after making the plastic MU-2 drive truck for Tyco that came just before the PT drive was developed.
Here's my CNJ unit, which I repowered some years ago.
This was one of the simplest and weirdest repowers I've done, but it works beautifully. After cutting a U-shaped cradle into an adhesive cable tie holder, I stuck it to the fuel tank weight, then cable tied a Mabuchi FK-130 to it. The universal cup went on the long shaft, and a steel Roco flywheel from my surplus that must have come from an old Atlas unit went on the stub end. This very simple mount isolates any motor noise from the frame. It still runs totally silent -- all you hear is wheels on rails -- and coasts pretty well, too.
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Posted - July 21 2014 : 12:33:40 PM
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Nelson, your re-motors are always impressive.
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Posted - July 21 2014 : 7:56:16 PM
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Thanks, Jerry. This was definitely an oddball, but easy and fun to do. I got it mint off eBay for $4, so I had no investment to worry about. The most frustrating part was keeping those rotten brittle handrails intact with the constant disassembly / reassembly.
Btw, yours and MS's repaints are equally impressive. Just one hint: blacken those wipers. 
Metalsmith, after looking at my photos again I realized a stuffed a piece of foam under the fuel tank weight to keep it from vibrating. As I recall, it sits loosely between the fuel tank halves, and the stock motor is usually no slouch when it comes to vibration. That or a loose rear weight might be the source of your ringing noise.
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Posted - July 21 2014 : 10:09:47 PM
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Another ALCO ! C-425
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 08:59:51 AM
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A pair of 4 axel German diesels made by Liliput.
frank
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 12:28:11 PM
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my loco this week is an oddity, ye olde huff-n-puff hon3 mine train,won it,should be here soon,ken
any info i would be gratefull
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 1:13:54 PM
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quote:my loco this week is an oddity, ye olde huff-n-puff hon3 mine train,won it,should be here soon,ken
/tyco/forum/uploaded/catfordken/20140722122717_yohp.JPG
any info i would be gratefull
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Here is a pic of a similar train being used to haul limestone from a quarry to a cement plant. This was in Davenport, CA, on the coast between San Francisco and Santa Cruz.
http://www.lifewastedchasingtrains.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2587
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 1:52:43 PM
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| cheers thomas ken
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 9:40:43 PM
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My LOTW is the Pride of the Fleet, an Athearn UP Gas Turbine w/tender. Bought in a moment of insanity, way too much money but I enjoy running it. Big and heavy, a strong puller and dead quiet. Took some pics of it tonight before it goes into storage for the move to Texas.
  
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Posted - July 22 2014 : 10:54:24 PM
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Jerry,
I am so envious, I want one too. I fear I sound like the buss, but I just can't help it.
A member of the old train club worked for Union Pacific in the 70's. He said that one of the crews left a big blow running under a hiway overpass and it melted the asphalt off of the roadway.
Regards, John
http://www.american-rails.com/gas-turbine-locomotive.html
Look at the first comment near the bottom of the page by Aaron Peavler.
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 11:56:03 AM
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quote:Jerry,
I am so envious, I want one too. I fear I sound like the buss, but I just can't help it.
A member of the old train club worked for Union Pacific in the 70's. He said that one of the crews left a big blow running under a hiway overpass and it melted the asphalt off of the roadway.
Regards, John
http://www.american-rails.com/gas-turbine-locomotive.html
Look at the first comment near the bottom of the page by Aaron Peavler.
Originally posted by JRG1951Â -Â July 22 2014Â :Â 10:54:24 PM
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The cool thing is I've actually seen one of two Big Blows that still exist at a museum in Utah when I was visiting family a year or two ago.
-Steve
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 12:54:59 PM
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quote:my loco this week is an oddity, ye olde huff-n-puff hon3 mine train,won it,should be here soon,ken
any info i would be gratefull
Originally posted by catfordken - July 22 2014 : 12:28:11 PM
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THAT'S AWESOME KEN!
I think I may have part of one myself to, not sure... I have too much sh*t!
Sean
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 1:12:08 PM
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Here is my LOTW:
Just purchased about 5 minutes ago as a $18.95 + $6 s/h...
A Mantua 2-6-6-2 Weyerhaeuser Timber Company Logger and looks to be in superb working order!
Sean
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 1:24:02 PM
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quote:
Nice. I owned one for a hot minute there. An ex girlfriend of mine bought it for me as a Christmas gift. We broke up a few weeks prior to Christmas so I never got it. Needless to say, I mourned more for the engine than for the girl.
If you are not having fun, you are not doing it right.
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 5:03:51 PM
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quote:
Nice. I owned one for a hot minute there. An ex girlfriend of mine bought it for me as a Christmas gift. We broke up a few weeks prior to Christmas so I never got it. Needless to say, I mourned more for the engine than for the girl.
Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 23 2014 : 1:24:02 PM
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A True Model Railroader 
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 8:58:55 PM
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That UP turbine is the bomb! When you get out here to Texas, you gotta bring it over to the El Paso Train Club- we have a Texas sized layout that will accomodate it and its 100 cars. I will personally made an exclusive video. That is one heck of a piece!
Invitation stands, (to anyone for that matter) you where to
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 8:59:45 PM
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quote:
Be still my beating heart. Honkin' dang nice work!!!
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Posted - July 23 2014 : 9:47:33 PM
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Jerry,
just remember the distance from Chicago to Texarkana is Shorter than the distance from Texarkana to El Paso!
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Posted - July 24 2014 : 09:17:02 AM
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Nice remotoring job Nelson!
Sean
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Posted - July 24 2014 : 3:35:59 PM
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quote:Jerry,
just remember the distance from Chicago to Texarkana is Shorter than the distance from Texarkana to El Paso!
Regards, john
Originally posted by JRG1951Â -Â July 23 2014Â :Â 9:47:33 PM
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That fact boggles the WV mind
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Posted - July 24 2014 : 8:14:50 PM
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Thanks, guys. It's very simple to do, so I encourage anyone with a C-424 to try it. Even a single ended motor without a flywheel makes a huge difference. All you need is an adhesive cable tie holder & cable tie, and a comparable motor.
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Posted - July 24 2014 : 10:51:26 PM
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I remotored one of those a few years ago. It was definitely an ideal candidate. I didn't use a flywheel, and I don't remember exactly what i did to hold it in. I think it's on here somewhere. The only mistake I made was getting the wires reversed, which made it run the opposite direction of other locos. Easy fix.
Also, look out for the railings. The short ends by the cab are easy to break when removing the shell.
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Posted - July 26 2014 : 10:35:48 AM
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came today,50s/60s ye olde huff n puff hon3 mine train set,loco and 3 hopper cars,way above my skills so will stay in box till i find someone who wants it,ken
train is similar to this when made up
cars are similar to this
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Posted - July 26 2014 : 12:45:17 PM
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| I wonder how hard it would be to convert it over to HOn30 from HOn3
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Posted - July 26 2014 : 11:13:11 PM
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Looks like quite a fun little kit, but if the loco body is a solid metal casting like it looks like, converting it for hon30 would probably be a massive headache.
I kinda wanna try it. I'd buy if I hadn't blown the last of my money on my lotw - my first BRASS diesel - a Tenshodo SD18 from an antique shop - this morning. Unfortunately, no pics as I'm iin Michigan for a week!
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Posted - July 27 2014 : 10:06:39 AM
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THE INTERIOR MEASUREMENTS(approx) 5cm long x 1.5cm wide x 1.5 cm deep,ken
photo below are the 2 different tracks,n on left,hon3 on right
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Posted - July 28 2014 : 6:52:41 PM
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Really nice kit, Ken. I saw one in a miscellaneous category on eBay a while back that was just the shell with an older open frame motor drive. That one looks to have a nice Sagami style can drive like those from NWSL.
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Posted - August 07 2014 : 05:43:41 AM
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quote:A pair of 4 axel German diesels made by Liliput.
frank
/tyco/forum/uploaded/toptrain/20140722085922_Lima HPIM0438.JPG
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Isn't it a LIMA Frank? Can not remember one made by Liliput!
Here is the sound of the original:http://www.e94114.de/V188/wav_Motor_Diesel03.mp3
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Posted - August 07 2014 : 4:57:39 PM
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quote: quote:A pair of 4 axel German diesels made by Liliput.
frank
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Originally posted by toptrain - July 22 2014 : 08:59:51 AM
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Isn't it a LIMA Frank? Can not remember one made by Liliput!
Here is the sound of the original:http://www.e94114.de/V188/wav_Motor_Diesel03.mp3
Erich
Originally posted by Erich - August 07 2014 : 05:43:41 AM
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It's not a Lilliput because I found one that was identical but in a different livery on a Lima resource website. Here's the link. http://mmiwakoh.de/Eigene%20Webs/lima-modellbahn/DB%20en.htm Scroll down until you see this below the picture: 8115 DRG V188 001a/b and there you go.Not exact but a good starting point.
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Posted - August 08 2014 : 12:48:54 AM
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Looks like you found a nice little switcher to take of some of those odd jobs around the grain elevatorAll kidding aside turbines are just plain cool and I can't believe that are available in ready to run form that is not brass. Awesome engines! quote: quote:
Nice. I owned one for a hot minute there. An ex girlfriend of mine bought it for me as a Christmas gift. We broke up a few weeks prior to Christmas so I never got it. Needless to say, I mourned more for the engine than for the girl.
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Posted - August 08 2014 : 08:08:36 AM
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quote:Looks like you found a nice little switcher to take of some of those odd jobs around the grain elevatorAll kidding aside turbines are just plain cool and I can't believe that are available in ready to run form that is not brass.
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â August 08 2014Â :Â 12:48:54 AM
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When SD90's first came out, you could get them with 6000 hp prime movers or a smaller horse power (4300 comes to mind, but I'm not sure). The lower power ones were WAY more common. One time I saw two of the 6000 hp ones and about three other high horsepower locomotives all together in one consist switching the yard in Clinton, IA. This is a job normally done by one GP 15. I have no idea what they were up to, that day, but it was at least as funny as switching with a turbine.
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Posted - August 08 2014 : 12:34:55 PM
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| The 6000hp SD-90 were prone to crankshaft failures and were de-reated prior to being sent back to EMD to be re-powered with the 4300hp prime movers. Quite a debacle and a black eye to EMD as I remember. I caught a picture of three of them that the U.P. had leant out to N.S. on a low priority coal turn on a N.S. secondary line that has since been ripped up and turned into a bike trail. I was shocked to se such big power being used in lieu of the typical second generation geeps that N.S. often used on this run that only ran about once every two weeks. This occurred during the period when the prime mover failures had just become public knowledge. I understand that many of the units were scrapped or re-powered and then sent to the Lease Fleet and some have even found their way to smaller regional roads.
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Posted - August 08 2014 : 12:49:28 PM
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Posted these before, I can't find the post. These were switching local industries.
The 6000 hp engines were not the only problems the 90s had. The UP retired the SD9043s that had the 4300 hp engines because of poor electrical/control systems. These engines were used by UP for less than 10 years. Many were scraped. This model was a factor in reduced sales and the eventual sale of EMD to Caterpillar.
Regards John
Technology is so much fun but we can drown in our technology. The fog of information can drive out knowledge. <> Daniel J. Boorstin
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Posted - June 29 2022 : 6:22:29 PM
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quote:my loco this week is an oddity, ye olde huff-n-puff hon3 mine train,won it,should be here soon,ken
any info i would be gratefull
Originally posted by catfordken - July 22 2014 : 12:28:11 PM
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Ken, That thing is so cool! do you still have it?
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quote:Memories of Mingo Jct.! Last week we had a posting of a sharp Penn Central C-424 from AHM. Here is a "sister" unit in former PC black re-lettered for Conrail with a trailing C-430 from Tyco riding on a hybridized Athearn SD-40 Chassis with AMD-103 trucks. The AHM unit runs pretty good but makes a weird bell-like clinking sound when it runs. I have never been able to track down the sound. Anyone else ever had this experience with these units?
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Nice job from somebody who grew up in Alco country and remembers the real 2474 well.
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