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obtrey
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 Posted - March 19 2007 : 11:13:21 AM
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Has any heard anything good, bad, indifferent about an outfit called "Liliput", or "Lilliput"?
While going through some of the things I have here I came across 2 items in yellow boxes marked Liliput or Lilliput. Me thinks a German manfacturer 1 is a steam loco the other is an electric with pantograph. They came in my posession in the '70's or early '80's. I don't remember the coupler configuration as I didn't use them I think my father in law got them from someone he worked with as I don't remember buying them myself.
Bob
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Posted - March 21 2007 : 02:01:02 AM
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quote:Has any heard anything good, bad, indifferent about an outfit called "Liliput", or "Lilliput"?...
Bob
Originally posted by obtrey - March 19 2007 : 3:13:21 PM
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Hey Bob, I have one such vehicle:
#383882 4-6-0 coal steam 60' Liliputt 1927 USRA Export to Egypt
Closest that I can match, one like this was sent to Egypt.
But, you're asking about where Liliputt came from... where was it built...
My first guess was Italy... but a search for Liliputt seems to say Germany.
They can be good models, freightcars or locomotives. The one I have is an excelent runner. All the telltale signs of an export, yet markings similar to an import.
You may have a couple of collector's items in your hands. Perhaps someone else can shine more light than I have.
John
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Posted - March 21 2007 : 4:47:31 PM
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John,
I was just wondering how prevelant they are. Seems like a nicely made product. I only have 2 and Ii didn't go out of my way to get them. I put a pic of the loco up, but not the electric, I'm tired of going through boxes here. I think they came from someone my father in law worked with but I don't remember exactly.
Thanks for the response.
Bob
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Posted - March 22 2007 : 03:23:24 AM
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You are very welcome, Bob.
The closest I came to searching "Lilliputt" was one eBay offering. It was also the only safe site.
The units may have deep flanges... not the greatest for code 83 track but will do okay.
Plenty safe for code 100.
They also used to be sold by Walthers' Catalog... Heljan, Faller, and I think Kibri were the other imports for Walther's.
Your locomotive looks pretty sharp.
My 4-6-0 has an extended/raised coal bed on the tender... European or English smokebox, but no buffers, like that on yours.
And what I mean about the "export" was that I looked on the internet to find/see a close match of this particular locomotive, and it almost matched one built for the Egyptian Railway, sent by the U.S.R.A. factories.
It also has Kadee couplers.
The long engine number had me a bit confused: #383882...
Another club member told me it means this: Class 38, 3 drivers, #882...
Something like that.
"Tired of going through boxes..."
You have treasures. Every now and then, we have some people come to see our layout... people from Europe and England.
When they see a freightcar, passengercar, locomotive, or caboose(brakevan) that they recognize, their eyes light up and may say... :"when I was a young lad, I had one of those exact same locomotive, etc."
It may be difficult going through the boxes, but again, they are like treasure chests. You have some valuables, there.
The subject of prevelance...(how about posting the other locomotive)... Someone else may be able to enlighten you about them.
The coupler configuration... on the coal-tender are the "X-2F" coupler which preceeded the Kadees, which the majority of modelers have converted to.
Any of my rolling stock that has those "Horn-Hook" couplers are keeping them "hornhooks" because you may come across another antique that also has them and you could use this engine to pull it, or have one or a few of your freightcars with both HH and Kaydee's on it... call it the "Conversion Car" and have fun.
The front seems to have the European/English "Loop & Hook" type of coupler, maybe.
Perhaps this is more information than you were expecting, but if there is anything else you want to ask, I will do my best to answer you. If I don't have the right answer, someone else does.
John
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Posted - March 22 2007 : 11:39:56 AM
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John,
Thanks for the information, and it's not more than I was expecting it is right on.
I am really tired of digging out boxes looking for things so i won't be doing any more for a while. I never realized just how much stuff I collected over time. Trying to do the inventory for Gareths' post was fun but the last 2 boxes are going to remain a secret even to me for a while and that's where the other Liliput must be. I recall its dark green with pantographs on the end other than that I don't recall too much other than I never used them, the foam padding in the box for the 4-6-0 is rotting away ang when I opened the box to take the pic I got a load of "dust" on the carpet. My wife was not happy but I did clean it up.
Liliput with 1 "l" searched in Google brings up sites in German but didn't provide me with too much info.
Thanks again for your response.
Bob
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Posted - March 23 2007 : 12:21:05 AM
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I have an idea about that Electric locomotive you speak of.
There was a series of books called "The Color Treasury of _______"
The book I had was about model trains. Your electric loco' seems to ring a bell in my memory... a photo of that one, I believe, is in that book.
The book is rather large, but quite thin. White cover with pictures of about four trains...
I'm not sure of the publisher, but the books came out in the early to mid 1970's.
Here:>>> http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qtit=Model%20Trains&qauth=Pollinger%2CGerald&qsort=r
It's the Alibris used book site.
Well, at least you have those boxes of trains.
Rainy day, either on the porch or have the floor doused with newspaper... take your time. Then, eventually you'll get to know what you have... and then, pictures and posting.
Don't rush it.
And the decaying foam padding... if or when placing the rolling stock back into the box, remember all them plastic bags you get from the grocery store? cut 'em up and use that plastic as a cradle cover as you put your rolling stock back into the box. Talk about recycling, huh? And it'll make the missus happy you didn't use the saran-wrap!
oh, keep the vaccuum close by. [:D]
Again, don't rush... and have fun.
John
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