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While hitting some antique stores in Vienna VA today, I found a few boxes of trains under a table, so had to start digging through them. Some Lionel O, some AF S, and quite a bit of HO of various makes. This engine, which I think is a GP-9, has an internal rubber tube to the truck from the motor, with an open-frame motor, and then it has a dual rubber tube driveshaft exposed underneath. Not familiar with this type of power transfer, Globe maybe? Haven't tried it yet. Thanks for any help.

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Cool find Jerry!

I have no knowledge what the drive is, but the first thing I thought of when I saw it was that it sure looks a lot like the Hobbytown drive Darth Santa Fe used in his E6 rebuild.

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Cool find Jerry!

I have no knowledge what the drive is, but the first thing I thought of when I saw it was that it sure looks a lot like the Hobbytown drive Darth Santa Fe used in his E6 rebuild.

Originally posted by JNXT 7707 - July 06 2014 :  09:45:10 AM



I'm not sure either. The shell is of course making me think Globe as well, but I haven't seen the mechanism before. I do, however, have a spare motor that matches that one if yours is fried. I had no idea what it went to but kept it anyways, now I guess we'll find out!

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I'm not sure ...as well, but I haven't seen the mechanism before. I do, however, have a spare motor that matches that one if yours is fried.

Originally posted by PRR 4800 - July 06 2014 :  12:44:36 PM



I took this engine to my hobby job today, and put it on the test track. It sputtered and moved a little. So I took it apart, cleaned the armature pads (dirty), oiled the motor bushings and transmission shaft bushings (dry as well ), then put it back on the track. It ran MUCH better, and faster, than before. I then opened up the truck cases, and the gears were mostly dry. Didn't have any white grease there, so I put the cover back on and will do the greasing at home. Overall it looks like it will run OK with some basic tune-up maintenance done. I'm always interested in the oddball or unknown drive units, as they're not very common. Looks like the motor is OK, PRR, it look so clean, other than the copper pads being dirty, you'd think it was new.

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It is defiantly a older Hobbytown drive

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Based on what you guys posted and what I know so far about older H0 scale trains (which is not too much at the moment but I'm learning), that GP-9 is some Hobbytown loco although I couldn't find any Hobbytown locomotive that looked like that thing so it might also be a re-motored locomotive.
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Hobbytown chassis from back-in-the-day with a Athearn GP7/9 body. Hobbytown only made chassis.
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Hobbytown chassis from back-in-the-day with a Athearn GP7/9 body. Hobbytown only made chassis.

Originally posted by Redneck Justin - July 06 2014 :  10:00:01 PM



That would make more sense. I believe we have a winner.

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Yep ! " Hobbytown of Boston" made kits for a lot of different locomotives and included a body with the drive . This one came with a Athearn GP7 body. It was a kit and it took some time to assemble the drive. That motor was strong enough to power 2 or 3 more locomotives. With these drives 2 or 3 locos with power trucks, were interconnected together with one motor driving all the locos. With this set-up the locos were connected with draw bars and not couplers to keep it together as one unit. You needed no sound unit with these locomotives for they had a distinctive geared drive sound and they sounded great yanking long trains around large layouts.
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I think that chassis will also work with a Tyco GP20.
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Chassis will only work with the wide-body shells - Athearn, Lionel, Cox, Model Power, a Lionel U18B or Rectifier will also fit.
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