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a boxed belle of the 80s kit,torn between leaving or assembling,ken


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very tempting ken
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I would be tempted too to be honest.I just feel like I need to get everything that I have to build and/or fix done and this would be one of those things if I had it.If you do build it, I look forward to seeing it in your LOTW or kitbash thread on the forum.
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"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."

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Ken

You can always get a built up Belle and restore it. A near mint Pre-war kit is super rare.

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hi bill that was my thinking,ken
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Do whatever you want to do. That's the point of any hobby. Do whatever you want to do with a model train.
-Steve

"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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If you plan to sell it as a collectable, Do not build it. If not, then build it. Unless you already have one that is built.
I see what you mean.

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agree with all the comments,but below is my problem,have a few parts,and can see it ending taking a long time to complete it ken

nothing i have by mantua,will be for sale

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It looks like a museum piece, so I'd be uncomfortable breaking it out of the box. I'd look for an assembled one and keep this for display.
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What's in the green bottle?
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What's in the green bottle?

Originally posted by Barry - April 02 2014 :  11:24:25 PM

It looks like a container of oil fluid for the locomotive.

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hi barry i assumed it was paint,as its gone solid,so no idea ken
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It looks like a museum piece, so I'd be uncomfortable breaking it out of the box. I'd look for an assembled one and keep this for display.

Originally posted by NickelPlate759 - April 02 2014 :  4:45:06 PM


After seeing the photo with all the extra parts, I agree with Nelson.
Put the lid on the box and put it on the shelf.
Finding the parts you need shouldn't be that hard now that you have one that is complete. (isn't that how it works, once you finally find one, they turn up everywhere)
After all, the hunt is half the fun.

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It looks like a museum piece, so I'd be uncomfortable breaking it out of the box. I'd look for an assembled one and keep this for display.

Originally posted by NickelPlate759 - April 02 2014 :  4:45:06 PM


After seeing the photo with all the extra parts, I agree with Nelson.
Put the lid on the box and put it on the shelf.
Finding the parts you need shouldn't be that hard now that you have one that is complete. (isn't that how it works, once you finally find one, they turn up everywhere)
After all, the hunt is half the fun.

Originally posted by Ray Marinaccio - April 03 2014 :  1:30:32 PM

That's one thing I like to do with old complete stuff I find at train shows. I keep it in case I have or get an engine or whatever that needs the part that I have in a kit or something.

-Steve

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hi kovacste000,you are laughing you are where they were made i am 3000 miles away,so pickings are not so easy ken
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hi kovacste000,you are laughing you are where they were made i am 3000 miles away,so pickings are not so easy ken

Originally posted by catfordken - April 03 2014 :  1:55:34 PM

I keep forgetting you're from England.Why do I keep forgetting that? Anyway, it does look like a museum piece to me. I mean look at it. The kit looks like something you would see at a model railroad museum or something. Really neat.

-Steve

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Hi Ken!
If you not build it you will not have a adventure of the early HO years and
this "vintage feeling" of the old days! - Erich
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Hi Ken,
Considering you now have three of these, or one complete one and two partial sets, here is my 2 pence. (maybe 3)
1. Keep the nice new original in box. This is a very rare collector's item and you have 2 others to play with.
2. Use one of the partial sets to build a "Kitchen table locomotive" based on the Charles Smith series of articles in Model Railroader February, March, April of 1951. He uses the Mantua Belle frame, drivers, and pilot wheels as a basis for his build. He makes the boiler out of a wood broom handle and makes other parts from various household pieces. It actually builds into a pretty nice loco.
3. Use the other partial set to scratch build a nice brass 4-4-0 via a series of Mel Thornburgh articles. These were in Model Railroader starting December of 1952 and through to April of 1953. He gives you a choice of scratch building your own frame and using the Belle drivers or you can also use the frame and not need to make your own. This builds into a very nice brass 1910 4-4-0. All of these issues can be purchased from Railpub and they also are included in the Kalmback DVD.
Good luck and regards, Vic B.

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hi bitlerisvj,thanks will look up said articles,makes good sense ken
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hi bitlerisvj,thanks will look up said articles,makes good sense ken

Originally posted by catfordken - April 10 2014 :  12:55:15 PM



Oh, one more thing I forgot about. You can try to get one of the Cary castings for this. I know they were really made for the General, but might be made to fit the Belle frame? It was called the Pittsburgh 4-4-0 conversion kit. If you can get one cheap, it may be worth using?
Regards, Vic B.

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thanks once again,will see about the cary ken

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