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 Posted - March 07 2014 : 8:19:57 PM
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While reading the topics on Aristo Craft engines, I see many of you collect these engines. While digging through my boxes of trains (I am returning to the hobby after a 20 year hiatus) I came across a 4-4-2 Atlantic that I couldn't identify. After much Googling and searching Hoseeker I identified it as an Aristo Craft. I have no idea where or when I got it, other than it was in a box of junk that I bought at a train flea market.
Anyway, it runs and runs fairly well all considered- it's terribly dirty and the crossheads that hold the valve gear are broken on one side.
Does anyone out there have an instruction sheet, parts diagram for this engine that they would be willing to scan and send to me? I have a lead on a replacement crosshead and want to make sure I get this back together correctly.
Thanks.
Alex
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Posted - March 07 2014 : 8:51:06 PM
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There are a few Aristo Craft & New One diagrams on HOSeeker, but not for the Atlantic. The crosshead is the square part at the union of the piston rod and main rod. The terminology can get a little dicey if we're not on the same page.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Baker_valve_gear.jpg
Are you saying the rivet that links the valve gear to the crosshead is broken, or are you talking about the valve gear hanger?
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Posted - March 07 2014 : 10:06:42 PM
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OK, got my terminology all screwed up. On the frame of the loco there is a square of metal that the valve gear hangs from. In your link it is not named but all the rods/cranks are connected/hang to it.
Bell crank, reverse rod, and valve rod. This is the piece that is broken on one side of my engine. I would guess that it is the valve gear hanger.
Here is a picture of what I am talking about.
Edited by - Retired Alex on March 07 2014 10:28:14 PM
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Posted - March 07 2014 : 11:17:39 PM
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That clears things up. That's the valve gear hanger that's broken. It's made of die cast metal, and CA works really well on it. Unfortunately there isn't a a lot of surface area, but at least there are 2 attachment points. I recommend Zap for CA, and baking soda sprinkled into the wet glue on the back of breaks will strengthen it greatly, and can be built up and filed as you desire. I find it stronger than epoxy, especially on die cast.
Is the entire broken part there? It looks like the rear cross section may be missing.
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Posted - March 08 2014 : 08:39:44 AM
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No, unfortunately all the pieces are not there.
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Posted - March 08 2014 : 09:04:40 AM
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if you want to replace the part and get a few spares at the same time,it might be worth checking this lot out ken
ebay 131133437700
sent you detail of this
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Posted - March 08 2014 : 09:29:27 AM
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* I would think that because it is a simply designed part that you wouldn't just make it out of brass. There is enough of the old part to copy from. You need to go to a good hobby shop or buy the brass stock you need on line. KS engineering has what you need.
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Posted - March 08 2014 : 10:43:11 AM
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quote:While reading the topics on Aristo Craft engines, I see many of you collect these engines. While digging through my boxes of trains (I am returning to the hobby after a 20 year hiatus) I came across a 4-4-2 Atlantic that I couldn't identify. After much Googling and searching Hoseeker I identified it as an Aristo Craft. I have no idea where or when I got it, other than it was in a box of junk that I bought at a train flea market.
Anyway, it runs and runs fairly well all considered- it's terribly dirty and the crossheads that hold the valve gear are broken on one side.
Does anyone out there have an instruction sheet, parts diagram for this engine that they would be willing to scan and send to me? I have a lead on a replacement crosshead and want to make sure I get this back together correctly.
Thanks.
Alex
Originally posted by Retired Alex - March 07 2014 : 8:19:57 PM
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I've seen those at train shows and they seem to go for $65 with the box and stuff in my area at least. Here's a photo of it that I found online.
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