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 Posted - November 17 2013 : 3:28:07 PM
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Pardon me for prototype pictures, but most of my models are packed. I found these this weekend at a car storage facility south of Slaton Texas. Slaton was a division yard for the Santa Fe RR at one time. Don't see many this old and clean any more.
I believe one is a GP-20 and the the other is a GP9. Don't see many engines with a winter hatch over the fans down here.
Regards, John *********
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Posted - November 17 2013 : 3:46:30 PM
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| nice,pics of different locos are always what i like to see even if diesels are not my cup of tea,ken
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Posted - November 17 2013 : 4:13:47 PM
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It's cool seeing these older diesels still on rails. They have so much more character than the newer engines.
Here's a pair of Alco's from the 50's that used to run near my house (this was maybe five years ago):
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Posted - November 17 2013 : 7:26:49 PM
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um this a GP7 I think  Ex-PRR & ex-Conrail
I knows what I'd do with one of those GPs, JRG1951
I'd want it to look like the Tyco Durango loco 
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Posted - November 18 2013 : 06:02:33 AM
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SLAL 2043, GP20u, ex-AT&SF 2043
SLAL 1555. GP7. ex-FarmRail 1555, ex-BN 1555, nee GN 655. Nose chopped by FarmRail.
HPC 7516, GP10, ex-CR 7516, ex-PC 7011, nee PRR 7011 (GP9).
Ottawa Central's units are ex-CP Rail RS18u's.
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Posted - November 19 2013 : 7:51:13 PM
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| I believe there is still an old abandoned Baldwin switcher sitting in one of the local railyards. I think I have a picture somewhere.
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Posted - November 19 2013 : 10:00:54 PM
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The standard power in my town is a GP30, still running for the New Hope and Ivyland just as it was built for the Pennsy (okay, minus the trainphone!). They had a bunch of dash-9's hovering around here recently that scared me a bit, but they went on their way and the GP30 remains as always.
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 11:25:50 AM
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More Prototype Stuff
All of these photos are mine with the exception of the T&P GP-18.
I'm not sure where I got that picture, but that is a cool paint scheme.
The UP SD-40 was being used as a yard switcher. The guy in the foreground
is the engineer and was operating the loco remotely.
Regards, John **********************
Leadership is solving problems. The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that
you can help or concluded you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.
<> Colin Powell
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 12:11:02 PM
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hey, John I been there IN the roundhouse in Cheyenne & seen the equipment stored there up close! 
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 2:03:49 PM
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Ben,
I was on s job trip and was time limited. I had to fight my coworker for the few photos I took. I went back a second time, but still did not get a tour. I envy your tour. Cool Place!
Regards, John ***************************
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 7:08:12 PM
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 8:07:15 PM
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Good shot Mike. That's a beautiful paint scheme! The models I've seen don't do it justice. 
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 8:13:49 PM
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yes but why the GIANT headlight? 
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 8:39:15 PM
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the headlight, and also, why in the name of sanity have they put flexicoil switcher trucks under a geep??? What a funny-looking geep. Makes the GP7L's look normal!
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Posted - November 20 2013 : 11:20:07 PM
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Conner,
Note the smaller fuel tank. The flexicoil truck is lighter then the EMD road trucks. This geep was lightened for use on lighter rail on branch lines. This has been done here in the States. Don't know about the headlight.
I'm only part right.
http://cnlines.ca/CNcyclopedia/loco/gp7/
Regards, John
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 12:46:13 AM
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South Carolina Central
Glenn
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 08:51:20 AM
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Here is another shot of CN 4803 and a history of it.
This locomotive is the only item in the roundhouse which can be said to be of national significance to the history of Canadian railways. This diesel-electric road-switching locomotive appears to be mechanically complete and was previously restored to its pre-1960 paint scheme by the railway in 1984.
The rare high-nose GP7 was built by General Motors Diesel of London, Ontario, in August, 1953, as CN 7558. High-nose GP7's and GP9's - so called because their cab was located behind part of the hood, with limited forward visibility - were among the most significant of the diesel locomotive types which displaced steam power during the 1950's. Few exist in their original configuration at this time; most have had extensive mechanical and cosmetic alterations, and their "high noses" have been cut down to provide a truck-like windshield over the short hood. The original GP7 was built by General Motors in Chicago in 1949. By 1960, it had sired some 7,000 copies, many of which soldier on in secondary services today.
The road-switching locomotive concept was developed by the American Locomotive Company in 1941 with their RS-1 design. In essence, the road-switcher is a do-anything, go-anywhere locomotive, unlike the previous road locomotive designs which were streamlined and unidirectional. Devoid of decoration, the GP7 design is completely functional, bi-directional and eminently efficient. It was utilized in switching service, on heavy road freights and, where equipped with a steam heat boiler or electrical generator for hotel power, to pull passenger trains.
It is powered by a 16-cylinder two cycle diesel engine in an ìVeeî configuration. Each of the sixteen cylinders displaces 567 cubic inches, or about six times the entire displacement of the engine in a modern Toyota Corolla. This large, slow-turning engine produce 1500 horsepower to turn a 600 volt direct current generator; the generator provided current to four large electric motors mounted in the bogies, each driving one axle of the locomotive. The diesel engine also turned a large air compressor, which supply compressed air for the engine and train braking systems.
These locomotives were generally equipped with the capacity to run in sets of up to eight units under the control of single engineer. CN 4803 is also equipped with electrodynamic braking, evidenced by the bulge at the roofline on either side of the long hood. Electrodynamic braking is a process by which the electric motors are turned into generators and the current load produced by the momentum of the train is then dissipated as heat. This system supplemented the friction brakes normally used and greatly reduced wheel wear and wear on the brake shoes.
4803 is also mounted on specialized, lightweight flexicoil bogies or trucks; the truck frame casting is often one of the heaviest components in a diesel-electric locomotive, and 4803 was specially equipped to travel on lightly constructed western branch lines during the autumn grain rush every year. During most of the year, she ran in regular service throughout the country, but come fall, she would head to the prairies.
In 1984, 4803 was donated to the City by the railway in a public ceremony involving then-Mayor Art Eggleton. A brass plaque commemorating that event is held by CN's public affairs office on Front Street and will be returned to the City for installation on the locomotive when the museum is established. We are pursuing inquiries with the railway as to her final mechanical condition before retirement, in the hope that she can be made operational. Meanwhile, she is in superb cosmetic condition and requires little more than a careful washing to be an excellent display piece.
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 10:01:05 AM
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Another Branch line Loco
/tyco/forum/uploaded/JRG1951/20131121100444_SDL39x.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SDL39
Now they are owned by the Canadians.
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 1:18:58 PM
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quote:yes but why the GIANT headlight?
Originally posted by microbusss - November 20 2013 : 8:13:49 PM
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Known as the Pyle National Barrel Style Light. Found this picture also...
Mike
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/1/0/1/8101.1119907260.jpg
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 6:30:27 PM
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Ah, it is a weight reduction measure. I know the SDL39's as someone mentioned. I hadn't noticed the small fuel tank, and the flexicoil trucks didn't ring a bell as a weight-saving feature. Now I see it. I did go and look up CN's GP7's, most of theirs were rebuilt like this.
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 7:11:06 PM
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| Mike, where were those pictures taken? Is that the CN tower in the background? Cool history!
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 7:57:31 PM
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It's the Toronto Roundhouse at the base of the CN Tower...
Mike
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 9:26:45 PM
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Actually I think the SDL39s went to Brazil or somewhere else in South America a number of years ago.
Edit: Per Wikipedia they're on FEPASA in Chile, except for one that was wrecked and scrapped in 1983. The SDL39 uses a GP38 body/frame on six axle trucks; Milwaukee Road ordered them to replace RSC-2s on some light branch lines.
The big barrel headlight originally held one bulb in a steam engine or early diesel type arrangement - a few roads chose them as options, Western Pacific had them as late as the GP35, Erie had two Geeps with them. It was just another option, sort of like how some 1957 autos could be had either with dual or quad lights as an option.
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