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 Posted - October 24 2013 : 06:55:32 AM
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So, you guys wantto see another use of TYCO parts? How about this?
Takes a few TYCO trucks, plastic OR the metal ones.....(Yes, theres a reason to this madness!)
The plastic trucks, you model logging railroads? OR have a logging line on your regular railroad as a servant to the system? Need log cars? How about an alternative to the expesive, disconnect cars from Kadee? NOT as detailed, but close and WORk, and in use with logs on them, will look just as good!
Take an look, (actively, that is) for old TYCO or even Mantua cars that are considered "Old Timers". The trucks under these cars, are the ones, you need!
You'll see in a bit why I say, the plastic OR the metal trucks for this build....
These are the Kadee cars:
These are nice models, a bit of work to build and aloto f painting of moving parts, YES they do swivel, and transpose as the car is loded with logs, PLUS they have sprung wheel sets in them! SO, a little reason to why they are a bit expensive for a set of them! Sadly, I got mine for a good price, otherwise, I wouldn't have them!
Then as I builtthese, I see something.....
A little brass stock, tubes, and solid square rod and a bit of solder and flux, and you can make something a bit close to the Kadee models, but, older looking for a year gone by? Sure, its a logging railroad, they never had brand new equipment all the time anyway, so.....
With the plastic TYCO trucks, you got this:
If you look the Kadee couplers are burried inside square tubing thats the same inside diameter of that of a Kadee coupler box, WHICH, allows me to stuff the coupler, and a draft gear box, inside the brass tubing, then it was marked from the outside to be drilled and taped for screws. The top of the inside of this box, has one extra thickness of brass shim stock to give a bit more "meat" for the tap to hold 2-56 threads in and try to prevent stripping out of the threads....REMEMBER, it is brass after-all!
This frame of the log "bunks" are bolted to the truck. NOW, you'll be enlightened as to why I said both, plastic and metal trucks above! See, the mounting of the bunks to the trucks?
This picture shows that the log bunks made of brass construction were bolted to the plastic truck. THIS "Disconnect car" will NEVER be loaded with logs........why? Well this is an unloaded model and can't, these "carriages" have to swivel UNDER the logs, OR atleast the bunks do....At least to allow the carto traverse through curves in the track if these don't swivel it will derail the car!
These type cars will be hastely detailed, beat up and look terrible as to be the "uncovered" disconnects.....to hide all this, and such and look somewhat realistic. NOW on the metal trucks, this WILL NOT appear the same, the metal trucks, will have the bunk to swivel above the truck frame, to have logs mounted in the bunks and chained down like my other log cars have had done to them.
I'm working on a series of custom made brass items for this train to see what can or can't be done to make realistic looking log cars. I have a Shay and a Heisler to make trains for, and maybe an upcomming Climax from MDC Roundhouse....(This one is pending) the 2 for sure are my 'Rossi Heisler:
And then, my Bachmann Spectrum Shay:
I'd love to get my hands on one of the new Bachmann Climaxes but....only if money allows!!!!
As I may things to add to this thread, I'll be adding in from time to time! So come back and see what I've been doing when the topic is back atthe top ofthe list....
~John
Many have tried to, and failed, ya just can't repair stupid... 
Do NOT try to Idiot-Proof anything!!!! God, will simply create a better......IDIOT!
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Posted - October 24 2013 : 08:33:50 AM
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Those log cars look pretty good, and they'll look downright convincing once you're done weathered them. And no doubt, kitbashing them just added to the hobby fun.
Carpe Manana!
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Posted - October 25 2013 : 9:20:12 PM
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| Nice models John. I dig it. I like your talking about the process, too. Cool locomotives.
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Posted - October 25 2013 : 9:54:14 PM
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you know, if you drilled and tapped a 2-56 in the center of the bunks....you could make them swivel, just a thought
just me Ray... and just because I have Tyco doesn't mean I am not a model railroader
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Posted - October 25 2013 : 10:00:08 PM
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Thanks Barry.....A bit of work,......BUT turned out VERY well!
Ray, nope wouldn't work! The trucks.... were BROKEN! And made from slippery machine plastic....I was avid to see if it could be used....NOW, I've got unbroken plastic ones so.....PLUS the metal ones to use!
Not anymore!
~John
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