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any ideas what they belong to,both 0 scale,ken

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I can say with some certainty that the first 2 chassis belong to the tank engine boiler to make a logging 2-6-6-2t. The 12 driver chassis, no idea. Can't be a 4-12-2 since there's no space for a 2 axle pilot truck in front and too much space for a single axle trailing truck in the back
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I can say with some certainty that the first 2 chassis belong to the tank engine boiler to make a logging 2-6-6-2t. The 12 driver chassis, no idea. Can't be a 4-12-2 since there's no space for a 2 axle pilot truck in front and too much space for a single axle trailing truck in the back

Originally posted by LGLrr845 - October 13 2013 :  3:28:50 PM



Ken,
Mike,
I agree on the first half, that tank goes over the 2 0-6-0 frames.....Easy enough....

That X-12-X frame is actually to a 4-12-2, It looks to have a lot of space under the "firebox" area, HOWEVER those had Delta trucks, which had "longer" type frames to connect to the engine bed, to extend to about/around the center to 3/4th distance back from the last driver, and then had a "bar" to carry across to each side, AFTER the trailing truck bearing....To a ride control to kind of "ride" just under the cab. For instance:



NOTE, this is HO but the "scale" of each will show. The distance from the rear driver to the end of that frame is the answer here.....I don't think their was enough space for a 2 axle truck, so.... OR They would be REALLY small....BUT, that's the doubtful part.

Another example:



I'm building the following:



I post this...BUT, I seriously doubt he 4 truck behind the 12 driver engine bed!

EDIT:
Forgot to say, noticed one other thing that's been missed, it has Gresley Valve gear. 3 cylinders!!!!!!! Which would make it a 4-12-2.....See:



Hope this helps!

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Well, I can tell you what model it reminds me of, that of the very unique 36 inch (3 foot) gauge Uintah Railroad 2-6-6-2T's #50 and #51
the 51
the 50 working hard
the 50

They both were then sold to the Sumpter Valley Railroad in Oregon square water tanks were removed and a tender was added.

this design can be credited for Mantuas 2-6-6-2s

Then both engines were sold and relocated for service in Guatemala! where they were later torched....Sad end to 2 awesome loggers.




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Interesting, The brass model Ken has, shows to have the same cylinders for each engine set, HOWEVER the sand domes are not correct for the real thing Hyde has posted. I know its a 2-6-6-2, BUT its not of the Uintah Railroad. As they been rebuilt BUT NEVER had the sand domes relocated, so.....made another logger for sure just not that one!

Good call tho Hyde! That loco Ken has is a logger just which one is the interesting part!

Ken do you know who the maker might be? Do a search and see what it turns up as that will tell you made it, will lead you to what it actually is!

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hi john,the x12 chassis,and the unknown logger are in post to me,no money changed hands yet,2 more photos of x12 chassis ken
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my conclusion with help from others is that it is a up 9000 class chassis,ken

its the 2-6-6-2 that i need to find now

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IMHO the logger is someone's kitbashing project. It seems unlikely a brass importer would bring in a model of those engines that's not correct (except perhaps for gauge).
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thats a shame what happened to them Unitah locos
But Guatemala has a extensive 3ft railroad Tho alot of the bridges were removed
Real cool locos guys
Always did like the Unitah Railroad Such a neat history too

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Ken,
You would be right with the 4-12-2......Its a UP model....frame.

The 2-6-6-2, it was some ones work, but I'm not sure on that either.....There were many of them made. Question is, what is it a model of/to?

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