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I might spend a couple of weeks looking at this thing and thinking about how to do something. I've been perplexed about how to depict the water flowing under the bridge. The photo in the background is going to remain black and white (so far as I see at this time), so then there's this transition to the color of the rock, the train, and basically all that's not in the photo (I had considered trying to do everything sort of monochromatic and painting the rocks with grays and using black trees, etc., but a first trial of probably a poorly matched gray looked even more phony than my brown paper bags. In a way, I don't mind being able to see the contrast between the reality of the photo and the modeled components. I think it could be a bit surreal given the right play between the modeled and the photo. Anyway . . . I've been messin' with the water depiction. One of my daughters suggested trying varnish on the water, and it was interesting. It looked like ice [the photo in the background is a wildflower excursion train). She then suggested undercoating with black or green or brown. That didn't change much in the way of viewing pleasure. She then suggested blue and that is what this photo is of (shooting through the glass really needs a studio or hanging about ten sheets up in my living room, which I wasn't ready to do this morning . . . but I needed to shoot through the glass because the closest "dimension" is attached to the inside of the glass frame). I'm not totally satisfied with the blue (and the color may be hard to see in this through the glass shot), but it is interesting in an old watercolor sort of way. I spoke with my daughter again and she suggested trying gray. I think I will and see what that does. Sorry about the long-winded post, but everyone likes to see a new post and photo.
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Posted - October 09 2013 : 8:01:06 PM
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Barry, try adding just a bit of green to the blue. Clear streams get a greenish hue in the deep pools such as you have in your scene.
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Posted - October 10 2013 : 12:17:35 AM
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I agree with scshaggy, just a hint of green tho. you just want that "deep hue of green tint to show "depth"...a teal green would work GREAT!
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Posted - October 11 2013 : 5:44:14 PM
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Shaggy, John, I tried some green and I like it. Here's a photo . . . we'll see how I like it after I look at it a few days. Everything's kind of serendipitous . . . you mess with the paint, do the torn paper a little different; it all comes together in ways you didn't anticipate. This is basically a green wash over a couple shades of gray. Then a coat of polyurethane (closest I have to varnish on hand). Seems like I could keep trying all tones of green and such. We'll just see how it grows on me over the next couple of weeks.
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Posted - October 11 2013 : 8:29:16 PM
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Looks GREAT Barry! Gonna see in a few days as it "grows" on ya huh?
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Posted - October 12 2013 : 02:01:28 AM
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Neat stuff, Barry. Very creative.
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 11:17:50 PM
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Barry:
If I may offer you a few tip's this could help as well.
1st. clear silicone here's a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_829290&feature=iv&src_vid=8SUgoMJhO1I&v=LFhrPA5j_IY
Next,try gallery glass,it's a faux stained glass material that is in a 2 oz bottle,you can find it at hobby lobby,Michael's,or A.C. Moore craft store's it too is inexpensive.
Just my 2 pennies
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 12:25:39 PM
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| Hey Mike, I appreciate your "two pennys". I'm still not committed to anything with respect to that water depiction, and I have thought that maybe some 'rapids' under the trestle might look good if I can pull it off. I also keep thinking that the trestle is a little high for what I'm trying to show. Anyway, I will check out that youtube video a little more thoroughly; looks good. Thanks Mike. Barry
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Posted - October 21 2013 : 10:25:50 AM
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| Mike, I just took the time to really watch that video on making the waterfall. A whole bunch of different techniques used in there; crazy about using the torch to clear up resin bubbles! Looks like that guy really has fun with his layout. I also think it's interesting the way the guy uses green for the bottom of the pools and to tint the resin. Thanks for putting the video up Mike. Barry
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Posted - October 21 2013 : 12:18:09 PM
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No Problem Barry,glad you liked it..
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 01:50:17 AM
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Added a few more folks . . . (Ken has told me what I need to do to get better pictures through glass, so I really don't have a good excuse for this photo . . . "next time") . . .
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 1:16:57 PM
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Trying for some better photos (glass lifted up), though I can clearly see I need to redo the background picture (among other things; such as removing the track bed and getting the track lying on the ground as it was then) so that the taping of the different pieces doesn't show. That coach is Electrotren. I really like the styling, though it is "big". Anyway . . .
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 2:36:28 PM
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This looks like some old photo from William Henry Jackson (and that's a good thing).
I noticed the woman with the puffed sleeves and the broad brimmed hat. Was that the one you posted as a work in progress the other day when you were showing the paper punched hat brims?
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 3:25:23 PM
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It's really looking great. The rock turned out nicely and the unique people and train cars really bring things to life. 
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 4:10:43 PM
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very nice
To make a Shadow Box real
Hang it on the wall cut holes thru them Attach track to your layout & run trains thru the Shadow Box
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Posted - January 10 2014 : 7:58:23 PM
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| Thanks Don, Eric, Ben. Yeah Don, that's the same figure. And that is a William Henry Jackson photo. Incredible resolution on those old photos; it's blown way up . . . just using the on-line tools of the Denver Public Library and their photo collection. Ben, I have thought about how it would be better to have a shadow box "flush" with the wall and inset into the framing . . . maybe the next time I tear the house up?
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