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 Posted - September 30 2013 : 11:03:33 AM
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My set this week is this Jouef Amtrak Turboliner. It is not complete - one coach is missing.
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 Posted - September 30 2013 : 11:36:27 AM
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SCHAWEET!!!!  
You just got me uber JEALOUS & ENVIOUS of you! 
I WANTS ONE!!
I'll post one too
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Posted - September 30 2013 : 3:30:00 PM
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Nice old timer set microbuss! AHM did a nice job on those. 
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Posted - September 30 2013 : 10:03:45 PM
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| Did/does AHM make their own locomotives?
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Posted - September 30 2013 : 10:32:55 PM
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No, they were just an importer. The manufacturers they used the most were Rivarossi in Italy and Mehano in Yugoslavia, with Roco and Lima providing some of the freight cars. The old time set above was made by Pocher & Rivarossi.
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Posted - September 30 2013 : 11:44:54 PM
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Well Nelson, some what....Pocher designed and sold that car set, for a while, and then Rivarossi bought out Pocher and added the line to the new Rivarossi offerings of the day. The loco, I think was straight up Rivarossi, BUT, I know that Pocher had a few that Rivarossi also added onto their line after the buy out.
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 12:27:03 PM
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John, that's why I hyphenated them, because Rivarossi acquired Pocher or at least owned a majority of them as early as 1965. Pocher designed all of the old-timers, plus the Casey Jones, all of which had many brass & chrome detail parts, but the drive parts were always Rivarossi.
Pocher's business was making beautifully detailed large scale auto kits, so I think the trains were a side business partnership for them.
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 2:57:19 PM
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Nelson, Well I just learned something! I didn't realize it was THAT early in the Rivarossi line that Pocher was how can I /we say, merging? Together? Never realized that one! WOW, explains a lot tho!
So this explains a lot of the old time Rivarossi loco's, and then to add to that, the Casey Jones, (Old timer as well, sort of) Rivarossi wanted, a "old Time" sense to add to their own line.....Question is, is, what about the Inyo and others? Those too, were Pocher designs? Brings up a lot of questions.....Also with the AHM-IHC, name change, I wonder if the IHC, 4-4-0's had not been from the prior Pocher designs as a few of the older ones, NOT Rivarossi, strongly resemble, Rivarossi designs AND possibly Pocher if that's where they were designed in the first place?
Interesting, to say the least!
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 3:02:17 PM
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I've been wondering about those IHC 4-4-0's too. Were those by Mehano?
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 3:04:28 PM
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Thomas,
Well the newer IHC stuff, is from Mehano. I was speaking of the older stuff, back in the day of the AHM/IHC renaming of the company.....As AHM was the original importer of Rivarossi products....Until Greed got the best of them!
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 Posted - October 01 2013 : 5:17:04 PM
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Thanks, guys It was abit pricey  but well worth it
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 7:10:45 PM
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** With the interest in car of the week on Maintance of the Way cars by Trainminature and True Scale, I will post the Walters M of W car. They are made from the same dies as TM and TS cars. It is a Pennsylvania railroad set in yellow. A complete set of cars.
frank.
** first a few flat cars with loads.
** Next a few house cars that has specific jobs to preform.
* a work storage box car. Then a engineers tool car.
* The blacksmith car and a another flat car car.
* Next a crane car and a wood gondola ballast car.
* Now the Kitchen car and a bunk car.
* Last a transfer work caboose.
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Posted - October 01 2013 : 11:22:52 PM
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Frank, I love that MOW set. I recognize the TS Brownhoist crane as I used to have the cheaper Life-Like version.
John,
All of those old-time locos and cars were a product of the Pocher-Rivarossi partnership. I'm not sure of their contract, but Allessandro Rossi could have easily required partial credit on those products -- if only for the drive line parts -- but he gave the manufacturing credit to Pocher, which is why only their name appears on the earliest stuff. At some point (70's? 80's?) the original steel frame for the 4-4-0 (Reno, Inyo, Genoa) was replaced by a plastic one.
The Mehano versions are from the 90's after Rivarossi shared the molds with them (as they did with the E8 and passenger cars), and both were producing 4-4-0's with a Mabuchi can motor in the tender. The Rivarossi versions had the advantage of blackened RP25 wheels.
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 12:13:08 AM
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| That maintenance of way set is very nice Frank.
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 12:49:43 AM
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quote:
AWESOME SET Frank! I got a few of those cars. NOT in Pennsy, but, undecorated ones from Walthers.... The Crane, the Tool Car, the Engineering car, Blacksmith car, Kitchen car, and the Bunk Car.....That last car, tho, the transfer looking MOW caboose, I WISHED, I could find!
GREAT set!
Nelson,
That's interesting, I knew Rivarossi and IHC/Mehano "shared" Tool and Die, BUt I didn't know that the Pocher stuff in the early days was Rivarossi design and built, giving the credit to Pocher.... that's interesting!!!!! Amazing the things you learn, even after years of handling things in one manner or another! AND knowing it to be true as well, as this short conversation, brought back some fond memories when I was working at the repairs counter of the old hobby shop that YTR began from.....
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 08:55:58 AM
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I was just going with the flow of things. Adding to what others have done this week in car of the week. So Nelson, Barry, and John, thanks for the nice response. I am glad you like the cars. Somewhere I have a photo of the Engineer office car with the sliding freight door and bay windows in yellow.
** Trainminature made the PRR set in box car red. I haven't gotten around to build the crane, and crane tender yet. They would be nice to post once they are done.
frank
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 12:41:31 PM
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Nice Frank
I do like that pennsy work set. I've been going over your layout pictures and am just amazed at it all.
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 2:46:11 PM
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quote:Nice Frank
I do like that pennsy work set. I've been going over your layout pictures and am just amazed at it all.
Andy
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Where you are a professional retired BUM at 67, like meself. Also always interested in trains. You wind up with a few. I'm glad you like what you see.
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 3:20:02 PM
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Frank, Nelson, Ben, Barry, Others, (Boy, thats a mouth full to say all at once, thinking to self)
I guess, I'll add my SOTW.....This,. is gonna be a L-O-N-G one. I'm going like Frank did, MOW to keep the flow of what others posted, ALTHO. I HAVE never posted the following as a SOTW! Always a first, for everything, my Grandfather used to say!
Water Supply Car for Crane.
Floodlight Boom Car for Crane.
Boom of one 200 Ton Crane.
Truck Handler Car, with supplies.
Boom Transport Flat Car with tool boxes, and supplies.
Tool and supply box car.
Difco Side Dump car.
Railroad Excavator.
Side Dump Gondola car.
Ballast Hopper car.
Rail and Tie Flat Car.
Blacksmith car.
Ditch excavator and car.
Thrall Ditch Excavator tender Car.
Tie and Supply Flat Car.
250-ton Boom Crane.
Boom Tender.
Track Cleaning Car.
Jordan Spreader.
Rotary Snow Blower.
Tunnel Ice Breaker Flat Car.
Nalco Weed Control Car.
THEN, a Video of all but a few cars?
Big "set" but, seems to keep growing
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 7:05:31 PM
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EM-1,
That's quite a collection of MOW and other utility equipment! No wonder it took such a large engine to pull it all. It's all done up so nicely in matching B&O blue, it makes a neat set.
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Posted - October 02 2013 : 8:03:31 PM
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John; very neat and different MOW train set. Much more modern that my stuff. I like be use of B&O blue as a color. I like the weed sprayer car. I have one that need some work. Now I know what they should look like. That is all your work. Very nice.
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 07:16:45 AM
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Thanks guys! Yes, Frank that's all my work. Believe it or not, those cars, to the set, were "junk" most, would have tossed them in the trash and got new ones, I rebuilt and overhauled each car to running specs, again, and then painted them....Added a TON of details, and lights to some, and interiors....And off to the in-service MOW roster, they went.....
As for modern, yeah, the hydraulic excavators add that to the mix, (I done those from broken John Deere Ertl toys for the kids, see at Christmas time IF I do the Christmas display I would take all the open cars, load them with candy, and deliver it to the front of the layout/display for the kids to remove as the train stopped. The kids, loved the "action" toys a lot of them would point and I could hear them say "I got that at home!"
So.....For some its whimsical for others, its both scale and whimsical....
But thanks guys!
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 07:41:42 AM
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Don,
Yeah I'm very fond of the large steamers, that one you seen is the new Spectrum B&O EM-1.....Thing is some strong!!!!My favorite large steamer, actually. BUT I'm working on building a 0-6-6-0 to pull this same train, that's a Mantua based loco so......Also be a B&O model!
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 Posted - October 03 2013 : 12:57:34 PM
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John, that is one beautiful MOW set, and impressive work. Love the excavator.
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 1:57:21 PM
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Nelson,
Thanks! Yeah, was a bit of work as far as the repairs PER car. needless to say, I collected these cars over a span of say, 20 years....(First 2, was the Bachmann 200 Ton Boom Crane and Tender, that was a broken model at the local hobby shop that I picked up pretty young for a few dollars as shipping took a toll on the box and the models, SO, I got them for 75% off the retail price of $12.98 back then..... (I just tossed out the original box to that set!) it got soaked in a spill from my daughter in the shop of Kool-Aid.....
BUT the details too.....I don't recall paying/buying anything "specific" for the set, things I found in junk boxes over the years at shows and what not.
The Excavators from Ertl, were bought at yard sales.... The one was in REALLY bad condition, but for 50 cents, well..........the cab, the bucket and all the hydraulic cylinders were in half decent, usable shape.....So, I took it. the other one I think I paid 2 bucks.....It was missing both tracks, and one whole side of the track "frame" was missing.....broken from the spindle....Even tho, I used the factory Ertl spindle, the flat car its mounted too......is all scratch built!
So, Nelson, which Excavator? theres the straight boom, "Ditcher" and then the normal Excavator, for regular digging.....
The straight boom job tho, even has a working "extend-a-boom"!!!!!!!
Definitely a lot going on in that train to say the least! Operating cars, light ups, opening doors, interiors to see, you name it, on each car, it may have something going on!
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 2:43:40 PM
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John, I like them all. As I've said before, you really did a superb job on finishing and detailing. Bravo. I have to say though, I do have a favorite and it's the Tyco side dump gondola. I'm impressed with how you converted it to look like something real.
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 8:32:55 PM
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Thomas,
Thank you! Thing is, there are A LOT of TYCO "based" cars in that train! All of them however has had something done! The trucks are spaced to free roll Jay-Bee wheelsets, to 33 or 36 inch wheel diameter, and all have had the "talgo" mount, removed in place of a Kadee coupler Draft Gear box, to the car frame, not the truck. The only cars to keep there "Talgo" were the triple axle units such as those with Athearn type trucks underthem. (Yes, there are a few).
Kadee couplers, came first...As the old Horn Hooks were failing, BAD, Then you had the wheelsets, originals to the car replaced as the train was used so much, I actually wore groves in the wheelsets! (Yes, it has seen A LOT of run time over the years, and it all started in 1988!) AND, its not only ran at Christmas, it goes to pretty much every show I do, to be seen in action, AND fun runs at my club.
Sadly, I'm the builder, and I can not pick just one car as my favorite.....SO, I wind up picking the whole "set" But thanks again, everyone!
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 8:41:53 PM
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| I remember seeing that video John. That's amazing.
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Posted - October 03 2013 : 9:18:46 PM
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Barry, Yep! Thanks! It makes it a bit better to "see" things in the still pictures rather then in motion!
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