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 Posted - September 10 2013 : 10:16:39 AM
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I got this Chessie steam shell from a train buddy out of his junk box a few years ago, but he had no running gear for it. I am assuming it's a Tyco, the 4301 number would seem to indicate that? Anyway, while rummaging for steam parts for EM-1 last night , I pulled out some 2-8-2 chassis's, and while photographing them, I decided to try one to see if it would fit. It's a perfect fit, my notes indicated they may be Mehano chassis's. The back tabs fit into the cab area slots, and the front mounting hole lines up perfectly. So, did Tyco borrow some parts from Mehano or AHM ? I thought TYco's Chessie steamer was a 4-6-2, yet this 2-8-2 chassis is a perfect fit. I think I will have to keep them now. :) I need a boiler weight to fit inside the Tyco? shell, and a tender , but otherwise it looks like it'll work fine as a 2-8-2 configuration. I'm stoked!  
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Posted - September 10 2013 : 3:51:11 PM
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It's a Mehano Light Pacific made for AHM, and it shared the same boiler as their Mike. http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/ahmhoscalelocomotives/id109.html
I think they were also sold under the Model Power name. They were later sold by IHC with upgrades like metal handrails and a can motor. To my knowledge Mehano only made an 0-8-0 for the Chattanooga sets in the 80's to replace the PT tender drives.
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Posted - September 11 2013 : 6:50:18 PM
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Well, while scoping out the Internet today to find Chessie steam photos, I ran across the goldmine I'll post here. Looks like my steam engine shell was made by AHM, in BOTH 4-6-2 Pacific, and 2-8-2 Mikado. That 4301 number threw me off, as that is almost exclusively used by Tyco, so I was sure it was that version. Nope. Here's the pics to prove the AHM heritage.
  
Most of the Chessie steam versions I've seen are the 4-6-2, until I found this photo proving the 2-8-2's existence , I wasn't sure it was real. But it most definitely is, and I most definitely have a chassis ( actually, 3 ) that fit the shell, and I got the parts off one of the others, the trailing truck, to make it complete now. Just need some screws, the boiler weight, and not sure if there's a standoff between the boiler and chassis, but now it's just minor stuff to find to get it going finally. I really like this shell ( and the road name, even if the paint scheme IS fictional ), so I want to be able to run it eventually.
Jerry
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Posted - September 11 2013 : 8:16:17 PM
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oooo I wants!!
Also I wants the Conrail, BN, Amtrak & PC ones too
I'm not even sure it was AHM that made steamers in BN, PC & Amtrak
That could of been IHC
I KNOWS I'm not crazy when I seen a ad for those in a old MR magazine from the 1970s 
Hey IF Tyco made a Chessie System diesel Pose both together!
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Posted - September 11 2013 : 9:04:36 PM
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Hey,
I think the Mehano 2-8-2, the Mehano 4-6-2, & the Tyco [Mehano] 0-8-0 all had the same boiler. The Mehano TYCO 0-8-0 was a 2-8-2 chassis without leading and trailing trucks.
Regards, John *************************
I'm not going to take this defeatist attitude and listen to all this crap any more from all these people who have nothing except doomsday to predict. <> Carroll Shelby
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Posted - September 12 2013 : 02:37:00 AM
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My only regard is the cylinder color. On all the models I have seen, and owned... The pilot AND cylinders were blue.....to match the colors of the boiler. AND I have had both, IHC AND Mehano 2-8-2, and 4-6-2 in Chessie colors, with "C&O 4301" on the cab. thing is, both models, had the exact same tender.....
Difference between the IHC and Mehano version? IHC had NO boiler hand rails. BUT, it had a smoke unit.... The Mehano version had boiler hand rails, as well as blown smoke, BUT had one interesting drive. the Mehano version, has a flywheel drive, IF that's what they want to call it (the flywheel is awfully small compared but it fits the given space I suppose!
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Posted - September 12 2013 : 10:52:55 AM
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Hey Tyco did have a Chessie System steamer BUT it was a 4-6-2 Pacific *WANTS!*
http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/steamengines/id8.html
Looks like to me it IS numbered 4301 too
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Posted - September 13 2013 : 07:07:34 AM
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Ben,
your right, BUT, the thing that TYCO had over the IHC model? Weight! The boiler was die cast! On the IHC, its plastic!
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 Posted - September 13 2013 : 07:42:02 AM
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| yeah Well I do want either or both
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Posted - September 13 2013 : 09:24:37 AM
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Good luck finding the TYCO model, for a good price they normally fetch a good bit of $$$$....
The IHC models, go for touchable prices tho!
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Posted - September 13 2013 : 7:28:04 PM
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All of them are Mehano models, the Premier Series are the ones that had flywheels in them. After AHM quit they were imported/sold by IHC regardless.
The 4-6-2 also exists in a Life-Like variant, possibly the first version of this loco to be imported. For the most part the parts are interchangable with exception of the flywheel drive likely has a different chassis and motor mounting.
One of the out of town shows I do that they hold twice a year, I forget if it was last winter or this last fall, I bought one of those with the caboose in the brown inner boxes and I didn't even get to take it home, it sold to someone else the same day no problem for $40.
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Posted - September 15 2013 : 10:00:09 PM
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Well, since the Tyco 0-8-0 was the same chassis, I managed to find a weight for sale on Ebay last Thursday, before I left on a trip to Maine with the wife. Did a BIN for $5. So I now have I believe a correctly fitting weight for the boiler shell. Fit number 917 steamer 0-8-0 by Tyco. Hopefully it'll work in this shell. Will find out.
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Posted - September 16 2013 : 3:19:52 PM
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Jerry,
Yep, that should fit if its the correct one, should have asked, I must have 10 of that same weight!
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Posted - September 16 2013 : 10:51:26 PM
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Well, i got the weight for the Tyco 917 in the mail at work today, and was eager to try it out. Once work was done, fire up the HHR and head for home! I started work on the engine about 10 PM, and was done in about 40 minutes. The frame on the blue Chessie chassis that attached the side rods was broken, so I had to take it off the chassis with the black front area I was gonna use, and put it on the blue front chassis. After sweating over removing the loc-tited screws, they came out of both units with no fuss. I swapped the parts, and then the tricky contact arms under the frame had to be JUST right. Got them in, then locked down the unbroken frame, then reattached the side rods. WHEW! My first side-rod surgery! Ok, maybe second, but this one was more complicated than the little Joe Docksider job. LOL!
Anyway, once that was done, I installed the new Tyco weight ( it fits perfectly ), locked the front down, then managed to find the rear screw on the 3rd broken chassis. I had to cut the wires to the motor to transfer it, and got a grain of wheat bulb that came with the weight, so I need to solder in the light, and the motor, and then it should be ready to run again!
I noticed that the front steam chests are riveted in, and that the blue front walk has black steam chest tanks, and is factory riveted, so this one didn't come with blue steam chests, it seems. No matter, the unit is about complete, and soon should be plying it's model trade on the rails again. Now if EM-1 can find me a tender to go with it, I'll be REAL happy! 
  
So, this project, thanks to my two parts units and ebay, is about done. I'm happy.
Jerry
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Posted - September 17 2013 : 04:50:07 AM
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Looking good Jerry! I tell ya, those valve gear hangers are brittle on most of them and doesn't take much to snap one, that screw that holds it in place, don't over tighten it, as that's the first part of the whole works to snap that hanger.....
Have ya tried it yet to see if it runs?
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Posted - September 17 2013 : 07:17:30 AM
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quote:Looking good Jerry! ...Have ya tried it yet to see if it runs?
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â September 17 2013Â :Â 04:50:07 AM
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Nope, I'm thinking of taking it to work today, and I'll use the soldering bench there to do the final repairs. I didn't want to mess with the iron at home, as my work bench is blocked (AGAIN! ), and pulling it out around my needy kitty wouldn't be a good idea, as fur and fire don't mix  So hopefully I can finish the motor install in the chassis and the bulb, and then I can see if it'll work.
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