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Guys,
Needless to say I have had a serious inventory of the TYCO 2-8-0, and 0-8-0's, that had the PT tender power....SO looking at them, I have built a 0-10-0 (from 2 of them) I have done a 0-6-6-0 (also, from 2 of them). I have done up a 0-8-0 in B&O, just re-detailed and put back together as a dummy to be a helper to look as if its pushing!

I also have some other things planned for these BUT, here is something that I have had boxed up for quite some time.....

On my layout, I'm building a rather large Locomotive Service Facility, big roundhouse, turntable etc....WELL, I built this:



Its a boiler house for heating purposes, that will have above ground heat pipes to each and every building in the complex, centrally located of course!

I added it to have a full interior as well. But, here are some more of the outside:



Nice shot of the entrace of the building.....I have yet to add a ramp up to the floor level, and a door that I believe will opperate!



Then you have the clean out end! Smoke box is cleaned out from the end, and then hauled across the deck work into a truck or a gondola type dumpster, I haven't decided on this one yet.....WILL, be lighted when I'm done tho!

Then:







You have the boiler feeding tanks, oil in the big ones, water in the small one, all loaded from a track that I will add to the side of this framework.

THEN the whole reason for this posting? Here it is:



This is the heating boiler to heat the entire complex! Yes, this unit will smoke.....I have lights planned etc. I also have a bit yet to do! The boiler sets on frame work made from Plastruct, with plastruct handrails around the walkway as you see its painted "safety yellow"....

I have yet to add the pipe to fill the smoke unit oil into it without removing the whole roof from the building. I have to add in the smoke unit as well. (Originally it had a cast metal smoke unit and weight) I plan to use a plastic one, setting in a building, it needs no weight!

I have to build the radiator manifold off the steam dome, add in the piping from the water and oil supply from the outside, and then make the transfer through the opposite wall of the building for heat supply to the other buildings.

Then you got my home made roof:



A little bit of work going into this one!

ENJOY!

~John

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Edited by - EM-1 on July 03 2013 11:03:57 AM
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Excellent idea and execution! I like how you finished the interior walls too.

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Thomas,
You think this is something.....WAIT! I'm working on my engine house that this boiler house will heat in the winter time with above ground heat pipes......

The engine house? Is square and is longer then a yard stick, ALL made from 1958 Revell 2 stall engine houses!

I mentioned someplace on the forums that is was 4 sections, its actually 5 sections in length......ALL matching and has the extra openings either closed up, to make a long wall, OR has off shoot "coradors" leading to a machine shop, a sheet metal shop, and a forge all on one side of the 2 stall engine house....The opposite side, is as I said a long wall!

THEN I got the double roundhouse! One is a 8 stalls by Heljan, and the other is Walthers Cornerstone with 12 stalls!

Needless to say I got A LOT to build, and a decent space to fill.....So, with the collection I have, I might as well make this the layout "Focal Point"!!!

As for all the extra detail, interior wise, well.....not all the buildings on my layout will be this detailed! only those next to the edge of the layout will be fully detailed as it takes a tremendous amount of time to do! BUT as you see, the finished interior looks GREAT!

As for finished interior walls, that's paper that I printed out and used decoupage glue to hold in place! That paper is copied at about twice the size of normal paper sheets to give me a good supply for interior walls! AND as you see, it looks AWESOME! Add the "wall paper" then the window and door trim, paint to trim color of the windows, and then benches and tables that you would have against the walls on the inside.....

Wait.....more is coming!

~John

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Forgot to mention.....That whole "tank set up" is scratchbuilt! The only "kit" to it is the Walthers piping kit that you see that's there.....I bought it new just to cut it up and then used the handrailing for the deck on the end of the building where the boiler front is.

Also, the building seen here, is/was made from a single stall engine house! Which I also got at a good price, but decided my big one was a much better idea then this one, AND I simply held onto it for whatever reason then this idea came along!

Needless to say, this building has been setting around now, for 4 or 5 years.....I'm going to attempt to finish it!

~John

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some railways in UK did that
But idk of any railroads in NA that did that
But real cool idea
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And there's a D&H boiler front... WAAAH!!!
Oh well... already changed projects. Phooey.
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quote:
some railways in UK did that
But idk of any railroads in NA that did that
But real cool idea

Originally posted by microbusss - July 03 2013 :  3:14:34 PM



Ben,
Actually, YES a few railroads did do that in NA! The B&O being one of them....They had powered all the buildings in and around the maintenance facility. IT did NOT heat the outer most buildings tho, they all had their own boilers.....BUT the roundhouse, machine shop, car repair building (I think that was building #4, and 5) and then the welding shop, and repower shop, all were heated by a building that housed a boiler that was actually from a B&O 2-10-2! I'll have to look BUT, I have pictures of sections of the loco facility in Cumberland, that shows these exposed pipes! In the winter time, you once were able to see them "steam" up (no pun intended here) the sky as they would literally hiss and such in the cold and the array of clouds that hovered around them was interesting.

THEN, you had the C&O! They had a few buildings heated from a Boilerhouse in Huntington, VA! This one, I'm not 100% sure how they did it OR what buildings were heated, I just seen the same type of pipes from one building to an other that were the same set up as that the B&O Had at Cumberland....Only difference I could see, were they at the Huntington shop were lower to the ground, and were less of the m from one building to another but the Cumberland shop used a rather large boiler were as the Huntington Shop didn't heat as many buildings.

They used what looks to have been a 0-8-0 or a 2-8-0.

The B&O ended up selling the 2-10-2 to a big company in I believe it was Chicago, that used the boiler for the same usage, and if it hasn't been changed, it still remains in the same place, I just don't know if it still opperational as far as a large "heating" boiler. The loco would take millions to rebuild tho, I don't even think it still rests on its original frame and drivers. Even tho, I'd LOVE to see it! I know, I know, I'm dreaming........The Government hasn't taken our dreams yet have they? Soon they'll be taxing them!

~John

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Pardon me John, is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?
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Nelson,
Actually, it could have been I can't remember I built what you see here so long ago Its difficult to remember but I do know it was a TYCO 2-8-0, instead of the 0-8-0, (not like there was much difference between them besides the pilot truck!)

VERY possible tho!

~John

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That is some great inspiration, besides being some really nice work. I am also in the process of building my locomotive facilities, and have been pondering how to handle the boiler house and piping. Thanks for some incite from a modeling point of view.
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Quips aside, this is a seriously inspired idea. Lots of railroads turned old steamers into stationary boilers, so this completely plausible, and the smokebox front on the outside wall is a great touch.
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Thanks guys! I'm just taking what I know with boilers, not exactly "steam loco" boiler but buiding heating type boilers, and applying it to a steamer and how it would work and how it be converted......I have never actually seen this set up face to face, but I know a pretty good amount about how it would work.....Then taking that all into consideration, and applying it to a model.....Think of how it works:

A steam loco collect saturated steam at the steam dome (highest point inside the boiler, sends it down a large diameter pipe to a series of smaller diameter pipes, to up the pressure...

This would transfer into the pressure to send the "heated water" down the line, into building radiators, either over head, OR floor mounted ones, with blow offs on them.....THEN it would return BESIDE the supply line back into the boilers inlet from where fresh water would be added at times of low water percentage to keep it from becoming a atomic blast from hell. SO upon returning to the heating source, just outside the firebox, it would be what would be like superheated, or in this case pre-heated water to not be "cold going into to be reheated all over again, but at this level of travel its probably lost 200 plus degrees in temperature.

I also plan to add a heating type coils around the underside of the oil tanks for pre-heated fuel! Not that it matter that much in real life at the volume used, but it would keep it free flowing, liquid and not gel up from the cold of winter!

Nelson, I just HAD to have the boiler front outside the building, with the added B&O Capitol Dome......They had to clean out the flue some how.......right? Makes for a really nice addition to the building!

~John

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quote:
Thanks guys! I'm just taking what I know with boilers, not exactly "steam loco" boiler but buiding heating type boilers, and applying it to a steamer and how it would work and how it be converted......I have never actually seen this set up face to face, but I know a pretty good amount about how it would work.....Then taking that all into consideration, and applying it to a model.....Think of how it works:

A steam loco collect saturated steam at the steam dome (highest point inside the boiler, sends it down a large diameter pipe to a series of smaller diameter pipes, to up the pressure...

This would transfer into the pressure to send the "heated water" down the line, into building radiators, either over head, OR floor mounted ones, with blow offs on them.....THEN it would return BESIDE the supply line back into the boilers inlet from where fresh water would be added at times of low water percentage to keep it from becoming a atomic blast from hell. SO upon returning to the heating source, just outside the firebox, it would be what would be like superheated, or in this case pre-heated water to not be "cold going into to be reheated all over again, but at this level of travel its probably lost 200 plus degrees in temperature.

I also plan to add a heating type coils around the underside of the oil tanks for pre-heated fuel! Not that it matter that much in real life at the volume used, but it would keep it free flowing, liquid and not gel up from the cold of winter!

Nelson, I just HAD to have the boiler front outside the building, with the added B&O Capitol Dome......They had to clean out the flue some how.......right? Makes for a really nice addition to the building!

Originally posted by EM-1 - July 05 2013 :  02:54:18 AM



Northwestern Steel and Wire in Sterling, IL, used Grand Trunk 0-8-0's to switch their steel works until about 1980. I went by there in 1963 and they were using an ex-CB&Q 4-6-4 to provide steam for the mill.

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I'm really liking your paint work on that building John. The inside rock work (?) paint on the walls is a great idea and the mortar in the brickwork. Very cool. Barry
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Barry,
Well to give a more in depth idea of how the "look" was achieved, the brick plastic of the building was spray painted with Wal-Mart "Color Place" Red Oxide Primer, allowed to dry for 24 hours, then the mortar was added, which was Polly-S/Polly Scale "Aged Concrete", applied with a brush after being thinned out about 50/50 with regular tap water. and down wiped on the bricks. Down wiped meaning, the paint was removed with a downward stroke of a paper towel, to make it look like mortar dust that has been washed down from rain.....Then all the "trim" stones or bricks were painted with Polly-S or Polly Scale "Concrete" NOT aged version of the same shade....

In some places, you will notice, that the concrete, "weathering" is heavier then others, I did that intendedly to look as tho heavier rain at times would have made the washes come out like that when the sun came came out to dry the bricks.

As so all knows that "tank" support frame, is bolted to the building as well, its not just setting in place! I have to add an array of piping going through the brick walls once set up for the "scene"...

Then interior walls are a printed piece of paper, of rock work that I had taken to a printing place. Staples, Kinko's, etc..... printed in color, and then Mod-Podge onto the inside walls......That glue works GREAT too! It sticks VERY well to plastic (I was skeptical in the beginning but tried it anyway!) Besides, it only has to really look the part as its on the inside of the building......And somewhat-what close to the edge of the layout, within 16 inches of the edge.....

ENJOY! Merry Christmas!

~John

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