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 Posted - June 23 2013 : 10:52:30 AM
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Charging ahead with the first post, I picked up this little guy at the Shenendoah , VA train show last month. Cute lil baby alligator! LOL. Anyway, doesn't run, needs some help, haven't looked at it closely yet. But for $20, it was way cheaper than the Ebay prices I've seen on similar engines. I was happy to snag it! 
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Posted - June 23 2013 : 9:40:05 PM
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Cool. Is there a manufacturers name on it? That looks like a reverse unit slot on the hood, tho it may just be a switch between track power and pantograph.
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Posted - June 24 2013 : 12:08:48 AM
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Originally built as a dummy this Athearn bluebox P42 genesis #32 is now fully powered and operational!! Took 2 years because work was only done in 2011, put aside in 2012 and finished a couple weeks ago. Feels really good to see an engine that was made as a dummy run down the tracks as fully functioning engine and to know that I made it run myself with new parts. Need all the detail parts being their no where to be found....anybody got the truck covers and rear deck beam? John/EM-1 got what I need to add to our deal 
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Posted - June 24 2013 : 07:43:32 AM
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For a loco of the week here is my PRR Stewart Alco 630.
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Posted - June 24 2013 : 10:06:37 AM
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my loco this week is a tyco 4-6-0,which i changed to a 4-6-4 and have repainted and in process of re naming ken
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 03:30:19 AM
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Hyde,
Actually, that's one locomotive, I do not have parts for! I'm trying to think of what truck frames you need for that unit.....I know they are nothing like that of the normal "B" type Athearn truck.....
You know, you might be able to get the truck frames....NOT Athearn ones, but Walthers! They used something VERY simi9lar to that found on their B40-8 locomotive from GE. AND I know they fit Athearn trucks pretty well, as I have done it to an Athearn framed, Rail Power Products, B40-8 that I was building till my hand got broke!
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 08:20:16 AM
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hi jerry,that is a triang steeple cab,ken
http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/Ohd1.html
had it not had the buffers and couplings modified,ie in original condition,the fetch £50 unboxed-£240 mint boxed
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 10:44:49 AM
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quote:hi jerry,that is a triang steeple cab,ken
in original condition,they fetch £50 unboxed-£240 mint boxed
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Thanks for the ID, Ken. I'll call it an American import which was modified for USA railroads Maybe a yard switcher at the PRR shops for moving GG1's which need service. 
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 5:05:36 PM
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quote:my loco this week is a tyco 4-6-0,which i changed to a 4-6-4 and have repainted and in process of re naming ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 24 2013 : 10:06:37 AM
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Ken,
I got to ask, what did you use for the trailing truck? Is that an actual Mantua truck OR an aftermarket detail part? I got a few uses for those, IF I could only find out who makes them, at least for a decent price, with or without wheels in them!
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 9:40:07 PM
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Here she is, my baby that I thought I would never get:
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 07:24:21 AM
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hi john its a mantua truck off a berkshire,which has been made into a 2-8-2 as southern never had 2-8-4s,apart from the k-4 class (Kanawhas) they borrowed in diesel days for rail tours ken
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 09:12:44 AM
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Hi Ken,
I had to ask, as it seems those old Mantua Berkshire rear trucks are seemingly difficult to get. I have had one of them, used it on a 2-8-2 as well, to make into a Berkshire, BUT that's the only one I have found to date!
VERY nice tho, for what they are, I like them, just due to the weight they have and being casted, makes for a strong part that moves without fear of breaking and such.
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 10:01:42 AM
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Ken , John . I think it is the same one Mantua used on their Hudson also.
frank
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 11:37:08 AM
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Frank, yes, you would be correct, it is the same one used on the Hudson!
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Posted - June 27 2013 : 2:47:31 PM
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GG-1 Guy,
Way to go! All though no one has responded this is a great find, minty, in ob with handrail package, and looks like original couplers. I have one and mine is very nice but no box and it has KD's.
Well done!
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 04:41:55 AM
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Are TYCO locomotive pilots interchangeable, i.e. a 4-6-2 and 2-8-2?
I have an oldie 2-8-2 & 4-6-2, both with metal boiler & plastic tender...
I thought about also turning the 2-8-2 into a 4-8-2, the whole pilot assembly of the 4-6-2 onto the 2-8-2.
So, is this:
[ ] crazy
[ ] hard 
[ ] actually doable without the need of a third hand 
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 09:03:25 AM
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GG-1 Guy,
Here's the clone I made inspired by my red box MU2 powered PRR C430 Alco. It's non- powered and was re-cleared and hand railed after this shot.
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 09:14:40 AM
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quote:
Real answer....
[X] doable [requires some skill]
Hello John,
The Pacific pilot deck is exactly the same as the Mikado pilot deck. Making the change will have no bearing on the results. The problems I foresee with trying to use the original tyco deck are the following:
You will need a deeper pilot deck.
New pilot cow catcher
separate ladders which can be mounted individually and are not molded into the radiator grill like the Mantua / Tyco version.
Although reused portions of the mantua pilot deck can be used, with the amount of effort used to remove and reuse the parts is not wortt the final look of the re-use.
To reuse the entire non-cut mantua / tyco deck, you will need to add an approx 1/4 inch spacer between mounting points. This is easy, but if done, the ladder tops end far short of the boiler side walks.
This is an example of something similar I did to a Mantua /TYCO 0-4-0, making it into a 2-6-2 Columbus Suburban type locomotive:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/sets/72157627595258142/with/6043242954/
I repurposed an Athearn Mikado pilot deck.
Here is another example I have of a Mantua Mikado 2-8-2 (now a 2-8-4):
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Although the pilot trucks are still the 2-wheel type, the complete pilot deck has been reworked. If you can assemble parts, it is really not that difficult.
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 09:38:00 AM
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John,
As Sean said, the pilot deck is the same and are in fact interchangeable! Without problem at that!
Its rare to find this! Most times a 2-8-2 pilot, is shorter then a 4-6-2 pilot due to the pilot truck and wheels!
As for what you were asking to make, YES it is doable, with alittle work and VERY GOOD measurements at that it can be done!
I myself, would make this with 2 Mantua/TYCO 4-6-2's.....I WOULD NOT mess with the front of the frame of a 2-8-2 AT ALL as that will REALLY getto be frustrating to complete, instead, combine the longer part of the first frame to a short part frame that's been cut from the back of the first to the front of the second....Measurements MUST be exact here as your going to span the cut with the drivers side rods to go from a 6 coupled to an 8 coupled....The only part to be scratchbuilt at this point is a brass plate under the frame, and possible the top of the frame.....you now have the front of a 4-6-2, with the -2 removed, and a 2-2 added from the rear of the second frame making a 4-8-2!
I have taken a TYCO 2-8-0 (tender power) and a 0-8-0 (also, tender power), and made it into a 0-10-0! Which your about to see!
As you see, I have to build the boiler to fit as I want this to be a B&O 0-10-0 Class U #950.
Then you have the frame, more case in point, what was done to it to make it go from an 8 Coupled to a 10....
Notice the brass plate on the frame just behind the motor....
Then, the underside....
The underside plate is the whole length of the frame, both sections, just for strength. The gearing much like that of Mantua and done with a nice can motor as well....
ENJOY!
~John
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 11:00:10 AM
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Alco fan, that is some great work! If not for the road number you could not tell it was a clone. Damn sweet work!!! Do you have all the TYCO C430?
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 12:06:09 PM
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My LOTW:
3 different Varney 2-8-4 Berkshire steam locomotives:
The first one has a painted aluminum shell (top)
The second is a bare aluminum shell (middle)
The third is a "Super" version with the rare V2 motor (bottom)
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Posted - June 28 2013 : 9:43:04 PM
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Sean...NICE! Lot Of The Week......... I thought it was Locomotive Of The Week? LOL
Love the Varney Berks tho......I wouldn't mind finding one at some point!
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