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Here are some boxed HO HObbyline car kits.
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I picked up an English Pacific yesterday at the Railhead, with the task of possibly installing valve gear.
My questions to anyone having looked into this:
Have you tried to fit Bowser gear?
Were you able to adapt these to fit?
If not, any other brand available? (Other than the obvious Central Valley gear)
Valve gear kinda gives me the willies, as one mistake and....!
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quote:I picked up an English Pacific yesterday at the Railhead, with the task of possibly installing valve gear.
My questions to anyone having looked into this:
Have you tried to fit Bowser gear?
Were you able to adapt these to fit?
If not, any other brand available? (Other than the obvious Central Valley gear)
Valve gear kinda gives me the willies, as one mistake and....!
Thanks
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Good luck with your valve gear Evan. Back in Nov 2013 I posted photos here on my two JE pacifics. Only one has valve gear. Maybe it will help.
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Posted - March 16 2015 : 3:44:45 PM
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My HObbyline Caboose I got yesterday at the Clark Train show.
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Posted - March 29 2015 : 08:30:09 AM
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quote:Lionel obtain the bulk of the John English (Hobbyline) tooling. Penn Line purchased the streamline and standard passengner car dies, as well as the consolidation steam locomotive tooling.
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Penn Line took the 2-8-0 body casting and made a 4-4-2, and 4-6-0 drive for it. To bad it didn't do a F class 2-6-0 on C class 0-8-0. Many molders have done the C class. it is a simple kitbash.
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The Great Northern Boxcar I got today. It is the ready to run version released in 1956 Just like the TP&W boxcar with the railroad herald being a decal. Everything else screen printed. In 1957 a GN boxcar kit comes out but that one is colored red and use's a different lettering arrangement.
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Here is the 1957 Great Northern box car. edit 9-17-21
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Posted - May 07 2015 : 01:38:31 AM
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| I'm building some Hobbyline diesels from parts, so if anyone has parts let me know. Conversely, if anyone is also building and need parts, let me know, as I have a surplus of some parts, like sideframes.
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* At the Wayne train show 8 days ago I acquired a HObbyline train passenger Pennsylvania Railroad set of 4 streamline cars. I head ended them with the HObbyline FA1 locomotives I have. So you are back in 1955 and seeing this HO train set for the first time. This set "The Trail Blazer" came powered by Alco FA1 twin locos in brunswick Green. A different set using the same 4 streamlined cars but using a Tuscan Red FA-1 twin set was named "The Metropolitan" set #450.
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Here is a link to my flickr album they are in. I hope you enjoy this set.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30431536@N03/albums/72157676423294411
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Here is my Union Pacific Passenger set. I am pulling it with a HObbyline FM H-10-44 road switcher. They made a Union Pacific one also in yellow. That and the C&O are ones I still don't have.
The three passenger cars to this set are the cars that come with a Union Pacific FM H12-44 switcher. The set name was "The Suburbanite" set #415. I dont have the diesel so I run it with a road name HObbyline FM H12-44 as seen here.
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Posted - January 22 2019 : 4:36:00 PM
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Lovely classic pieces. Always interesting to see stuff from the early years of
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Posted - January 24 2019 : 10:22:19 PM
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Impressive stuff!
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Posted - July 08 2019 : 1:14:08 PM
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Well here in the HObbyline thread I put my new to me "Lake City Express" set #451 in Erie green and gray 4 car set.
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Posted - July 08 2019 : 7:40:35 PM
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quote:My HObbyline Caboose I got yesterday at the Clark Train show.
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oh I LOVE these promo cars! 
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Posted - July 09 2019 : 08:56:00 AM
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Yooo Buss! a great choice in cars. This kind of large but older fashion caboose was their main stay when it came to cabooses. On all there HObbyline set from 1953 to 1955 this caboose was on the tail end of every freight set they made. After this date they had a Pennys and UP version. Their caboose kit kept getting it's decal sheet updated going from PRR and UP with the addition on WP, SP, and I think a couple of others. As a promotion car it seemed it didn't work to well. By the end of 1957 the company was gone. What a legacy they left. The most obvious being Lionel's first HO made in USA most of which came from the English dies, their freight cars, their steam locomotives, and their FA1 diesel. Gordon Varney wound up with both the Streamline and Heavy weight (clerestory roof) passenger cars. They added to the line of cars in each with observation, Pullman, Dinner and full baggage. Then Life Like used them right into their proto 2000 era and I guess Walters have them now. Penn Line also used these cars. Little known was Mr. J. A. English had completed a PRR consolidation and was ready to release it. This complete tooling went to Bowser and became the basis for his line of metal PRR steam locos. Whatever happened to the English die cast FA-1, FB-1 tooling? Well it went to Lindsay who sold their own kits, and bodies and frames to Hobby town of Boston who further prolonged the life of this model. Do you wonder where Walters FM H10-44 came from? Place a HObbyline one alongside the Walters and think about it.
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Posted - July 11 2019 : 09:38:58 AM
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Well in my search for train sets by HObbyline I have found 25 different named sets and seen 3 others which I made no note of. I am tempted to post a list and will think about how use full it would be.
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Posted - July 11 2019 : 10:26:27 AM
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great looking erie set frank,dont see many of those do you
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quote:great looking erie set frank,dont see many of those do you
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Your right Ken, the ERIE set is one hard to find set. I wish I had the box for it. I think I seen one car way back in the past. With HObbyline my wish list is long and all very hard to find.
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* After a few weeks of searching online I have a list of HObbyline train set that were available from 1953 to 1958. HObbyline it self broke up around the beginning of 1957 but stock remained with some distributors it seems for a few years more. To get them now it is just when old collections become available or that odd piece is found at a flea market or train show. Online auctions are the best place to see this line of trains.
* Here is my train set list of HObbyline sets, I don't think this list is complete now. I've never seen on before so mine may be the first.
Here is what I found and put together on the HObbyline train sets. It is information on 27 cataloged sets. Of them and on only the last one set 467 did I not find a set name. I am thinking that I don't have them all. 2 sets have a single digit number. 23 of these sets have 3 digit ID numbers. Only 2 have 4 digit ones and they may have been special sales set. Each of the two came with a assembled boxed kit to add a additional car for the set. Set 2500 came with a flat car; I think it to Pennsylvania RR. Set 3500 came with a Lehigh New England gondola. heir are 2 uncatalogued sets HObbyline made for Lloyds hobby shop and both are B&O. One passenger set #462, and one freight set. This makes a total of 29 sets and there may be more uncatalogued sets. My collection is of cataloged trains and sets.
My list of HObbyline Train sets.
Set number, Set name, Listing what’s in it.
#1 1953 no name PRR H12-44, flatcar, boxcar, gondola, and PRR caboose.
#2 1953 no name, PRR twin FA-1 black, 2 boxcars, 2 Gondolas, 1 flatcar, and a PRR Caboose.
410 ‘The Commuter”. PRR H12-44 and one H.W. combine, two coaches.
411 “The Wall Street”, H12-44 diesel, one H.W. combine, and two coaches.
412 “The Shuttle Bug” NYC 0-4-0t, tank car, boxcar caboose.
415 “The Suburbanite” UP FM H12-44 diesel, HW combine, two coaches.
416”The Prospector” ATSF FM H12-44 diesel, Flat car with 2 wood loads, Box car, HObbyline Caboose.
417 “The Pacemaker” B&O FM H12-44 diesel, hopper car, Box car, Gondola, caboose
420 “The Wayfarer” PRR FM H12-44 diesel, gondola, flat car, box car, caboose
421 “The Whistle Stopper” C&O FM H12-44 diesel, Gondola tank car and HObbyline caboose’ loco included.
422 “The Yard Master” PRR 0-4-0 steam loco with hopper, tank car and caboose.
( There are two yardmaster sets, 440 is a 4 car set, this 422 a 3 car set.)
425 “The Hilltopper”. UP FM H12-44 diesel, Gondola flat and box car.
426 “The Hot Shot”. Twin FA-1 diesels PRR black, flat with load, tank car, box car, hopper car, caboose.
430 “The Train Maker”. PRR A5 0-4-0 steam loco. HW combine, and two coach.
431 “The Silver Meteor” Twin FA1 PRR,3 S.L. pass cars, two Pullman silver star and silver cloud, and observation Silver Meteor. Pullmans are stream lined with red stripe.
440 1954 “The Yard Master”. PRR steam loco, PL&E Gondola, Erie Box car, conoco tank car, PRR caboose.
440 1955 “The Yard Master”. PRR steam loco, PRR Gondola, RI Box car, Union 76 tank car, HL caboose.
(422 is a 3 car set named Yard Master, The 440 sets are all 4 car sets)
446 “The Ridge Runner”. Alco FA-1 PRR diesel, box car, tank car, flat car with load, hopper car, HObbyline caboose.
450 “The Metropolitan“, FA-1 twin, combine and three HW coaches. Locos included.
451 “Lake Cities Express”. Erie FA1 twin, H.W. one combine, two passenger coaches. green and gray.
455 “The Canyon Clipper”. UP FA1 twin H.W. one combine, three coaches.
456 “The Trail Blazer”, PRR FA1 twin, S.L. three Pullman, one Observation.
460 “The Growler”. PRR twin FA-1’s, gondola, tank car, two box cars, UP caboose.
461 “ California Zephyr”. W.P. FA-1 twin. SL cars. 3 Pulman’s, Observation..
462 " The Royal Blue" B&O twin FA-1 's with one combine and three day coaches. A uncatalogued set
produced by HObbyline for sale be Lloyd's Hobby shop, Baltimore Md.
? # B&O freight set with 6 freight cars and a caboose.
Edit 9-17-21, NOTE; Lloyd's contracted HObbyline to make 2 sets for them. The set 462 and another, a freight set, number unknown. Lloyd's called these sets set 1 and 2. The set 2 was the freight set. It came with twin FA-1 locomotives in B&O, 6 freight cars , and a caboose. The year was 1955 and all cataloged listed freight set for this year came with cabooses lettered for HObbyline. Was this Lloyd's freight set equipped with a HObbyline caboose or did HObbyline make a B&O lettered caboose special for this set? I have never seen the set and so I don't know what freight cars and caboose came with the set. HObbyline may have made some B&O freight cars to go with this set. Having 6 cars it was the largest freight set made by HObbyline. The largest HObbyline freight set to date including 1955 had only 5 freight cars. I would really like to see a photo of this special set.
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465 “The Mountaineer”. UP twin FA-1’s, gondola, tank car, two box cars, UP caboose.
466 “The Frontiersman”, WP twin FA-1’s gondola, box, tank, flat with load, hopper, caboose.
467 ???????? no name found, Set is the same as 466 but is PRR.
2500 “The Rocky Mountain”, Union Pacific 0-4-0t saddle tank, box car, tank car, UP caboose
3500 “Allegheny”, PRR 0-4-0 yard bird, box, tank car, box car, hopper car, gondola car, flat car, PRR caboose.
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Posted - July 12 2019 : 10:34:13 AM
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I enjoy seeing this stuff from back when HO was in
its early years. It's got a great look. How well do
they run?
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Posted - July 20 2019 : 8:38:57 PM
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Here is a photo I made today of all my Hobbyline FM H12-44 locomotives. 4 are factory painted and the other 2 are my work.
HObbyline 1000 is factory done.
Pennsylvania 1000 is Factory.
B&O is also factory.
Lehigh Valley is Factory finished.
New York Central is done by me and
CNJ also is my work.
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Posted - July 20 2019 : 9:49:38 PM
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Ultra cool, toptrain! Nice custom work on the 2 of those!
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Posted - July 21 2019 : 3:43:08 PM
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I am looking for two FM H12-44 locomotives. The C&O and the UP versions by Hobbyline. Actualy s their is an AtSF set with one.
1-24-20 I have them both now.
edit 9-17-21, added photo;
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Posted - July 21 2019 : 8:49:50 PM
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when these trains & sets were out ALL the railroads existed!
& who is still one that never merged but it merged with others?
UNION PACIFIC! 
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Posted - July 22 2019 : 12:09:42 AM
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Wow, from the early days of HO, when I gather, HO was like N when
N came out, replaced by Z, replaced by T. Really beautiful pieces.
How do they run? Are they like full on or full off?
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Jeff I am sorry I missed the question twice. They have Pittman open frame motors. There is some speed control there but the heavier the train the less control you have. Most of the sets are a loco , 3 cars and a caboose. Or three passenger cars, they run ok. If you try to run a single FA1 and 6 cars. It will work on your basic flat layout. Grades can become a problem with light engines.
Buss. good post. A very true statement. UP is around even today. And chops yes they do run and this particular FM H12-44 made by HObbyline had all wheel pick of of power and on all the ones I have all wheel drive, just it is a little light. it could use some more weight. I did see on E-bay photos some of the 44 drives this FM and the FA-1 have only one truck powered with the wheels left in place and the gear shaft removed. That was due to who ever owned it removing worn out parts and making it so.
DID YOU KNOW THAT THEIR WAS A HO COMPANY THAT MADE A FM12-44 EARLIER THAN the HOBBYLINE! COMPANY AND A PHOTO OF THEIR LOCOMOTIVE CAN BE FOUND IN THE MODEL RAILROAD EQUIPMENT CORPORATION CATALOG OF 1950 ON PAGE 31. The ony date identifying these catalogs is the Copyright date 3 pages in. the catalog is in HOseeker. The company was Sampson.
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Posted - July 27 2019 : 5:36:46 PM
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Today I stopped over my friend Charlies house and received another different set of Erie heavyweight passenger cars. The first set was green and gray. This one is Green Gray and black.
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its like when Post Sugar Crisp put out those tin railroad signs
there were 28 & out of the 28 UP only exists!
those are fun to collect & use on your layouts
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Today at Hamburg PA train show I got my first boxed HObbyline train set. It is the Ridgerunner NO. 446. It came with some basic paperwork and a 1955 HObbyline catalog. this it. The box car and the tank car are not the ones shown in the 1955 catalog. I change them to the correct ones and post them in the thread on train show and flea market finds.
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Well I got a few HObbyline UP passenger cars and a UP FA1 that practically needs a new drive. I'll see if a Trainminature drive fits the shell.
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UP yellow with celestory coaches. Sure do hope you can
do your magic and make it run. Are those coaches
all metal? That F unit is going to have to work
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Jeff, HObbyline is the plastic line and English made the 65' cast Metal combine and day coach. These UP trains are really dirty so I'll get them cleaned tomorrow. I'll be looking for FA-1 locos in UP at the train shows this September. Sept 8 is the fall Hamburg PA show. Sept 29 is a Wayne NJ Train show. The Trainminature and Walters Train Line may get me some drives that fit. Their is always a chance a HObbyline diesels may appear at trains shows. Early October is good also for their are two train shows 35 miles apart on Oct. 6 in New Hope and Easton. I'll try to get to them both.
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I'd like to see some video of this
set running. Good luck on the
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Nice TopTrain!
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These John English and hobbytown, do they preceede Tyco/Manatua?
While very cool in their own right, one senses a tension to lead the competition in the HO market. Is that about right?
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A new Video with two Hobbyline train sets running at the same time. Erie Lake Cities express and the TrailBlazer.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30431536@N03/48611232728/in/album-72157710242700546/
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quote:These John English and hobbytown, do they preceede Tyco/Mantua?
While very cool in their own right, one senses a tension to lead the competition in the HO market. Is that about right?
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HObbyline is from 1953 to 1957. John English the parent company was a post WW2 1946 to 1957.
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Wow, that video is very well done. Nice, close angles and panning.
These have to be right at the very beginning of commercially
available HO, and they are amazing to see in action.
I hope we get to see the UP consist before too long? How is the
transmission repair going?
Also, what is that steep gradient-up-a-trestle? Looks like the
beggning of a cog railway! The whole new layout with its
divider is looking very sharp, and a great way to demonstrate
these beautiful old models. Thank you, also, for the insider
updates on these fabulous vintage pieces. Like Busss said,
they were operative Class 1's when the models came out.
Does it get any better than that??
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Posted - September 16 2019 : 10:50:16 AM
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Runs like a gem, and would appear to have its own sound
system pre-rigged, what a racket! A beautiful old set
restored to original purpose.
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Posted - September 27 2019 : 07:54:17 AM
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Another of the large 4 passenger car sets. Here is a photo of the Erie " Lake Cities Express " Powered by a Twin set of FA-1's of the Erie, a combine and 3 day coaches.
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Posted - September 27 2019 : 07:57:39 AM
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Here is a look at the "Metropolitan" Set. One of the large 4 passenger car sets all heavyweight cars. A combine and 3 day coaches.
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Posted - September 27 2019 : 08:03:43 AM
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Now a look at the set named "Silver Meteor". it is a all pennsy passenger set released with FA1 twin power used the Tuscan red FA's. Freight set using FA's used the brunswick green which HObbyline called black. This set has 2 silver pullman cars with the familiar red stripe above the windows and an observation car. Silver meteor is the name of the Observation car in this set.
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Posted - September 27 2019 : 08:07:03 AM
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This is the Pennsy set named "Trail Blazer" where all silver streamlined cars were used. A pair of twin F-1s power this set pullins 3 pullmans and a Observation car.
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Posted - September 29 2019 : 06:57:07 AM
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Great sets. Landscaping looks like
Western PA.
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Posted - September 29 2019 : 3:56:59 PM
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Gotta love that Pennsy Tuscan Red! Nice locos and coaches, frank.
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Posted - October 10 2019 : 08:49:52 AM
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Thanks Jeff and Bob. That same set, the 'Trail Blazer" is on ebay now, listed as HObbyline it still at its opening bid. Who know it may go cheep. The 4 car set look very good. The locos have only one side shown.
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Posted - October 11 2019 : 10:15:39 AM
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Specifically, the side of the mountain looks like photos
from WKS in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania. I do not tire
of looking at these great old HO trains- and knowing
they are operational.
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Posted - November 15 2019 : 8:58:44 PM
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quote:Specifically, the side of the mountain looks like photos
from WKS in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania. I do not tire
of looking at these great old HO trains- and knowing
they are operational.
Originally posted by Chops124 - October 11 2019 : 10:15:39 AM
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They are no fun if they don't run.
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Posted - November 16 2019 : 07:28:37 AM
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An update of the cars missing here that are in my collection.
Atlantic Coast Line box car 20121 , Ready To Run.
Erie box car, 82341 RTR.
Seaboard RR, 19599 RTR.
more to come.
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Posted - November 16 2019 : 07:39:28 AM
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Here are three more box cars.
Southern Railroad. 24292
Southern Pacific Railroad 100810
Western Maryland Railroad 29242
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