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 Posted - March 18 2013 : 9:00:40 PM
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this loco is a beast,lights come on,just buzzs,flywheel moves the wheels and drive linkage when rotated full 360 by hand,no binding,ken
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Posted - March 18 2013 : 9:57:58 PM
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Motor doesn't come one when powered up or what? Sorry Ken, you weren't to clear on what the issue it is with the locomotive!
IF anything as I'm not sure your having problems with it either!
I'll help the best I can on what be going on with it tho! 
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Posted - March 18 2013 : 10:32:25 PM
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Is that AC or DC powered?
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Posted - March 18 2013 : 10:36:16 PM
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Just bench test the motor and see what happens. If nothing, remove and clean and try once more. If nothing gives, make sure the drive train in bind free.
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Posted - March 19 2013 : 06:04:49 AM
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Brushes may not be making adequate contact with the commutator? Looks like there is a small capacitor on top of the motor; try removing it- it may be shorted.
Randy
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Posted - March 19 2013 : 07:58:37 AM
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Goodmorning Ken. How are you and yours today. I do hope all is OK!
About your hudson tanker. I looks to be in good condition. With little use.
*Is the lighting directional.and that electronic board only for directional lighting. Is that a 6 volt or 12 volt motor? If that is a good 12 volt motor that will run when you test it with jumpers . If you apply 12 volts to your motor terminals and it buzzes it is your motor, or electronic board, or some connection in the path your electricty must flow to get from track to motor terminals, with a high resistance short to ground.
got to go get dressed and clean off the snow on wifes car for trip to school with grand son.
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Posted - March 19 2013 : 10:55:22 AM
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| ok now to try and answer all questions,its a dc model,from flywheel to wheels alls fress and smooth,its picking up current,as directional lights work,it seems to be to do with motor itself ken
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Posted - March 19 2013 : 7:16:35 PM
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** Ken you need to un-solder the leads from the motor and apply power directly to the motor. If the motor is bad replace it.
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Posted - March 19 2013 : 10:33:22 PM
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That's a nice looking engine!
Is that a can motor or an open frame?
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Posted - March 20 2013 : 01:55:12 AM
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Ken, it most likely is worn out brushes or something of the sort. I agree with testing the motor outside the loco. It resembles the motor in BLI's Hudson, which IIRC is a Faulhaber.
The board we can see on top of it has two chokes and a mica capacitor for RF noise suppression. They keep brush arcing down and help reduce interference with radio and TV. Funny how that's required in Europe but not on this side of the pond.
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Posted - March 20 2013 : 06:21:46 AM
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| I agree with Nelson! maybe worn out brushes! Maybe I can get a motor for you if you need! - Erich
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Posted - March 20 2013 : 10:44:14 AM
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quote:
The board we can see on top of it has two chokes and a mica capacitor for RF noise suppression. They keep brush arcing down and help reduce interference with radio and TV. Funny how that's required in Europe but not on this side of the pond.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â March 20 2013Â :Â 01:55:12 AM
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If you're watching TV while trains are running, I think you have other problems.
I think it might be a armature issue. In other words, it can't decide which way to rotate. Either way, sounds like a new motor is needed. Looks like a new locomotive or seldom run. Curious to find out exactly what is the problem.
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Posted - March 20 2013 : 11:41:07 AM
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| thanks guys for all your input,looks like a strip down,ken
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Posted - March 21 2013 : 01:04:52 AM
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Ken,
Well a couple things......Remove the wires from the motor and add current from the tracks or a test power pack and see if you get ANY response. IF it does nothing, check the motor brushes, AND springs, they might not be making contact with the motors commutator..... While your at that, check the "copper" or brass plates in that area where the motor brushes make contact to see if there is any excessive wear, on the plates, excessive dirt and grime, excessive oil or grease, clean it out if so. polish with a pencil eraser! Clean with alcohol. Remove as much as possible with a "Q-Tip" or the like.
Once done, see if the brush springs are "strong" enough to hold pressure on the brushes..... if not, replace! THEN, check the length of the brushes them self, they should be right around 1/8th inch long .125" or alittle shorter then a HO scale "foot" in length, this if I remember correctly should be close to the length you need for the Lilliput loco.
Once done, re-lubricate and test again, if nothing at this point, its a total motor replacement due to then it could be a fried commutator from over heat, or old age of the actual motor, and or to high of voltage to it from a non-trains transformer.
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Posted - August 15 2013 : 06:16:24 AM
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well guys after all your help,i am happy to say,new motor and a couple of other bits installed and it runs sweet,with directional lighting ken
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