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Old Gordon Varney sold a lot of box cars. Modelers that are fussy about the road names on the locos and cabeeses are almost never about the road names on their freight cars. Freight car went everywhere. the engines didn't. Varney did a lot of different roadnames on their box cars. In 40' box cars they made standard single door, double door, and a few with different roofs. They made them of wood, plastic, and different metals. There were some outside braced boxcars also. I'll put some in here and see if others do the same. Maybe we could get idea of what was made. No one has seen it all.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 06:38:39 AM
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* The Pennsylvania Railroad 40' single door. " Don't Stand me still ". Most molders have seen this one.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 06:47:56 AM
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A second one for today. Another Pennsylvania railroad car. This one, less were made of. They came out in special store sets. Being where I live I guess they would show up around here a little more.
* The " MAY'S DEPARTMENT STORE". PENNSY CAR.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 07:33:30 AM
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** Here is one for the railroad fans of the southern states.
* " Louisville and Nashville ".
* I have seen this car by many other manufactures. This is the one I like the best, even though it is the hardest to see and read. Power blue and light yellow lettering. In certain lightings the lettering disappears. For whatever reasons my camera worked this time and gave me a very good likeness of the car.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 11:20:10 AM
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I think Life-Like has the old molds for this car
Here is one in BN
L-L made this car in several billboard/ad cars too Some not even on Tony Cook's site!
Such as Juicy-Fruit & Twinkies
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 11:24:27 AM
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| frank nice car,looking very good for its age ken
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 3:34:37 PM
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I'm looking forward to this series. I've often thought this tooling might be the single most prolifically decorated item in HO. And it's still used! A display or running train of all the paint schemes would not only be incredibly colorful and vibrant to look at, but a great history lesson as well. In fact I've often considered doing just this, but... yeesh, I don't need to be "collecting" any more. Maybe once/if I sell off my Tyco collection.
Even as a simple 40' boxcar, and even though it's beyond dated and chunky by today's standards, it's proportioned well and just looks good.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:23:30 PM
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quote:frank nice car,looking very good for its age ken
Originally posted by catfordken - February 13 2013 : 11:24:27 AM
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Thanks ken. I hope the B&O / GE box car posted yesterday gets put in. I never seen that car before.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:27:46 PM
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quote:I think Life-Like has the old molds for this car
Here is one in BN
Originally posted by microbusss - February 13 2013 : 11:20:10 AM
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Hey ben, nice picture. Just I am hoping to see varney cars. life like just isn't the same. Yesterdays B&O - GE box was a pleasent supprise for me. Maybe some members have other ones. How knows what Gordon had made.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:30:18 PM
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One of the nicest single door box cars Varney made was the B&LE 81492.
** Bessemer & Lake Erie ".
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:36:54 PM
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Another nice box car is the Jade Green and black New York Central sixteen four thousand.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:39:59 PM
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Here is a super doubledoor round roof. Great Northern Silver, doubledoor GN twenty-five oh one.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:45:50 PM
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Oh I knows, toptrain Just mentioning that L-L has the Varney boxcar molds
I should go back to that antique mall & get all the Varneys 
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:54:47 PM
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here is the Boston and Main luckey box car. The blue B&M thrple seven eleven.
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Posted - February 13 2013 : 6:59:58 PM
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Now the bright yellow Katey. KTM 96450.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:06:11 AM
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| I'm really liking these Varney cars, i think i'n gonna start getting me some.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:11:17 AM
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The all black Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad single door . C&O Progress. Twenty-five thirty-eight
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:21:16 AM
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This is my only outside braced single door box car.
* " Minneapolis and St. louis " " The Peoria Gateway ".
* M&StL 4383.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:25:48 AM
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The gray Erie Lackawanna Railroad. EL 73510.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:32:55 AM
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My other doubledoor. " WABASH " " Serving the Heart of America ".
* With their symbol, the flag in the heart. WAB 8217.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:39:16 AM
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** Red, Great Northern Railroad. single door. GN 3529.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:42:06 AM
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** This is the other Great Northern Railroad single door box car!
* This has GNs Danc'in Goat .
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:45:19 AM
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| some real nice cars there frank,that outside braced car looks good ken
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:45:43 AM
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Varneys " Mopack Eagle " single door. Just a blue with white lettering.
** MP 120170.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:50:13 AM
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The St. Louis and San Francisco white box car.
** " NORGE frosty Flame "
** SF-SL 16037. FRISCO DF.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 07:53:48 AM
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*** The silver Rock Island Box.
** RI 20437.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 08:57:57 AM
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*** My last one for now. till I find somemore.
** The controversial Main Central box. Made by Varney for sale by Penn Line, I think. Many say it was a Saki rip-off. The only defining difference is the use of metal trucks provided by Penn-Line.
You can go to " HOseeker " look at the Penn-Line 1960 or 1961 catalogs, page 1 and there in the Santa Fe small freight set is this car. Penn Lists it as 401MC, varney has a ME box at the same time listed as #880, but it is the all metal box car. It uses the same lettering and same number. the metal car has a few extra lines
MEC 644 plactic car.
This is the all metal MEC 6444 box car. sold at the same time.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 11:12:06 AM
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I needs to find that Norge boxcar
Is Mays Dep't Store gone now?
Actually all I has for Varney is one caboose & this book
4th printing June 1949
$20 was alot  but inside makes me drooool
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 11:57:36 AM
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The two MEC cars were not made with the same screen or mask. Compare the trunks on the tree, and the fonts for the reporting marks.
Just some fuel for the controversy ;)
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 12:50:33 PM
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After a PM from davetfromMD I was told I caould post a croped version of his photo of the B&O GE box car. so here it is with all the others. frank
PS thank you Dave.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 1:13:26 PM
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One of mine. - Erich
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 1:24:28 PM
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Erich. Nice one ! A brand new Rock Island box car.
I like it.
* You changed it to the Pennsy doubledoor. good choice. third doubledoor posted.
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| The plastic Penn Line box cars, gondolas and reefer were made by Mantua. They were decorated at the Woodbury factory and Penn Line supplied their own trucks. The ID# on the Penn Line MEC box car is 6440. Varney produced the C&O hopper and Sinclair tank car for Penn Line.
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 1:27:15 PM
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| Have changed the pic because you have posted the Rock Island already! - Erich
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Posted - February 14 2013 : 1:27:52 PM
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quote:The plastic Penn Line box cars, gondolas and reefer were made by Mantua. They were decorated at the Woodbury factory and Penn Line supplied their own trucks. The ID# on the Penn Line MEC box car is 6440. Varney produced the C&O hopper and Sinclair tank car for Penn Line.
Originally posted by waw47Â -Â February 14 2013Â :Â 1:26:34 PM
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I guess they did the MEC box car also.
* Erich , yours was new in the box. I would say that made it a different view of the car
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Posted - February 15 2013 : 10:24:08 PM
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This came along with a bunch of random non-train items at an auction for $3.00. The kit is complete. I just need to finish what someone else started.
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Posted - February 16 2013 : 08:10:38 AM
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Dave It is good to have a new, old Varney metal refer kit. I have none. I have some of cars,but built up. Most with broken or missing ladders. Some with rusty sides.
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Posted - February 17 2013 : 09:47:50 AM
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* Since I posted the Varney MEC all metal box car, I will continue on with more of these box cars. Not the reefers. I save them for another topic just for them.
* Next before I post more of those painted and lettered Varney metal box car I will post here photos of the 1930s First varney box cars. These were thin brass sheeting over a wood frame. All detail was pressed on the brass.
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the 40' single door box car.
the 60' doubledoor box car.
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Posted - February 17 2013 : 10:17:16 AM
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Love this tinplate Pacemaker cars! there are three unmade in the boxes! - Erich
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Posted - February 17 2013 : 2:07:21 PM
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Hi Erich . Nice Varney box cars. An 0 can becone a 8,6, or 9, without very much work. Just like the 8 can become a 6,9,or 0.
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Posted - February 17 2013 : 2:09:42 PM
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Here is the B&O timesaver , less car load box car in two numbers.
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Posted - February 18 2013 : 05:20:03 AM
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Silly me .. I didn't even notice it was a reefer.
I like those B&O box cars!
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Posted - February 19 2013 : 10:21:56 PM
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| The Norge paint scheme lasted long enough to become a Life-Like car through the 1970s.
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Posted - February 20 2013 : 08:15:49 AM
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quote:Silly me .. I didn't even notice it was a reefer.
I like those B&O box cars!
Originally posted by RDC1Â -Â February 18 2013Â :Â 05:20:03 AM
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Dave :
A photo of those car sides fit anywhere at anytime. Especialy with the old original box.
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PS. Thanks for sharing !
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Posted - February 23 2013 : 5:14:31 PM
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quote: quote:Silly me .. I didn't even notice it was a reefer.
I like those B&O box cars!
Originally posted by RDC1Â -Â February 18 2013Â :Â 05:20:03 AM
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Dave :
A photo of those car sides fit anywhere at anytime. Especialy with the old original box.
frank
PS. Thanks for sharing !
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That's what I love about this group of peoples. The layed-back-ed-ness and lack of back biting that plagues some other forums.
My pleasure to share!
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EEYYEESS!! I got a Varney NYC boxcar & the box with it for $7!
You like it?
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Posted - March 04 2013 : 06:37:54 AM
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Ney Ben !
* A New York Central, " Bussy Bee " box car. I think i have seen that Varney box two or three times. Old Gorden outdid himself with that one. A nice find.
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Posted - March 04 2013 : 07:32:45 AM
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FWiIW, it's not a factory paint job. The factory painted Varney NYC boxcars look like this one on eBay:
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| thanks, toptrain It has real spring trucks & the instructions inside the box too
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Posted - March 04 2013 : 11:30:27 AM
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Varney 40' metal box car Santa-Fe Chief.
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Posted - June 20 2013 : 07:05:21 AM
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Found another Varney metal box car. This one is the New Haven RR.
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