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Ok as most know I picked up a little 6 engine and its in pretty bad shape as far as paint goes, also one of its guide rods bent and snapped :( so thats another repair to do, but thats for later, I have decided this will be my test unit for painting.
so whats I want to know is whats the best, (simple prefered) way to remove its paint, as far as I can tell its all metal but Im not really sure tho...so I would like to be safe and get something safe for plastic and metals...so what type of things could/should I use?
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 7:37:17 PM
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That Mantua is pure metal! I use brake fluid. Let it soak and scrub away! It helps to primer the body afterwards.
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 9:04:15 PM
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| ok what type of brake fluid? and is it DOT 3, DOT4, ect? what other options do i have if brake fluids are not an option?
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 9:51:03 PM
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As an auto Painter of 103 years... Brake fluid will remove many different kinds of paint. However, brake fluid is petrolium based (oil) and Oil, is paints, worst enemy.
IF you choose to use this method, make sure to clean the parts well to remove the oil.. Model paints are somewhat goof proof and will try to adhere to contaminants...such as grease, oil, and waxes...
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 10:13:26 PM
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| ok, well I haven't made my mind up yet, as im looking for options, so what other type of options do I have other then just brake fluid?
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 10:19:34 PM
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Only method I ever had luck with. Just gotta scrub the boiler and other parts with hot water and soap. I use the cheap no name fluid.
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 10:34:02 PM
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| ok cool, but even your cheap no name fluid has to have a DOT rating on it ;) but I will give a go with the brake fluid if I get no other options, I just don't want to buy an entire bottle of it for just one loco....
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Posted - January 31 2013 : 10:46:37 PM
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Any DOT grade will work.
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 09:27:03 AM
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I have always used lacquer thinner on metal stuff. As I recall it is $12 a gallon or so. When I am done stripping, I put the used thinner in an old gallon can for future use.
Lacquer thinner also is a good airbrush cleaner if you are using oil based paints. I have also needed to use it when I tried to use acrylic paints. I must goof around too long because I have always had trouble getting the gun cleaned up after use.
One thing I have found to be handy is an old, plastic, Velveeta cheese box. It is about the right size for an engine or long car and it seals really well.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 1:00:53 PM
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Lacquer thinner is a much more sensable product as it is actually made for painting use. A good brand of PAINT STRIPPER, also works really well ! 
I for one wont use an OIL based product around anything I plan to paint... It's an invitation for paint problems...
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 3:54:04 PM
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im not sure of the type of pain't on the Tyco little 6 engine but I assume the Lacquer thinner will work just as good if not better then most stuf, I just don't want to damage the metal body, so once its all stripped I can shine it up a bit then paint it how i want.
also want something safe for plastics so I can try to reuse the stuff for other engines also...
as for paints I use Enamle based paints so will I also need to use any other different products? or will the thinner/brake fluid be enough for those??
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 4:33:18 PM
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For plastics I have used Floquil's, "ELO" (easy lift off). It works OK. I prefer, Scalecoat II, "Washaway". It works well also but I don't think it smells as bad. I have used brake fluid too but I had 3 Atlas (yellow box generation) shells ruined when I left them in too long. With brake fluid, I found you had better keep an eye on what was getting stripped.
As Walt said, oil based stuff can lead to paint adhesion problems, so a good wash in soapy water is mandatory. I also use a cheap, rattle can, primer coat on metal items. Primer is also sometimes a good idea to help with how well the finish coat covers. Maybe Walt will chime in on why and how.
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 4:49:57 PM
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I use original formula Pine-Sol...works great and has a great, if not somewhat overwhelming scent.
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 5:30:05 PM
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I have used EAsy-off oven cleaner on a plastic shell. Did o.k. , took two applications.
Also, used a glass bead blaster at about 25psi. Works very well on die cast boilers. Will work on plastics. But, you cannot let the blaster stay pointed at one location for long periods of time.
It will erode the plastic.
The paint remover I like best is called Chameleon. (spelling?). IT is safe for plastics. I think a quart is $15.00 but, it is useable. Keep it in a resealable container. Takes anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours soaking to strip paint.
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Posted - February 01 2013 : 9:13:09 PM
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I use Napa carburetor cleaner! Works amazingly! just put the boiler or frame in it(no mechanic parts of course) and let it sit for more than 3 hours then the paint will either be all off or will be so loose you can blast it off with an air compressor or just use gloves to get it off. Here are 2 recent examples. If you're wondering why i had to remove the paint, it was cause I had bad spots in certain areas.
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Posted - February 02 2013 : 10:47:03 AM
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| very nice!!
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Posted - February 03 2013 : 01:07:09 AM
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For metal I recommend lacquer thinner as well. It removes paint and any oils very quickly.
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