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Tell me if this isn't insane, I just learned about this RDIF chip from Obama care! Not going into politics. Apparently, the gov't mandates it becuase your medical record can be scanned and checked. I'm intriquied becuase they apparently can track you 24/7 and link your bank accounts to it. I'm absolutely horrified by this,but, over the grape vine, they're making some with cyanide in it and if you break a law, some of it comes out into your bloodstream! I'm not sure if that part is true. What's y'all opinions? Maybe I'll go to Canada!
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Posted - December 22 2012 : 10:50:33 PM
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Check this out:
http://www.healthcarevideosite.com/proof-rfid-microchip-is-in-obama-health-care.html
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Posted - December 22 2012 : 11:19:56 PM
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Havn't looked at the link because our government is well known to have stupid ideas and make incompetent decisions.
However, kinda sounds like Progressive Insurance, having that "snap shot" insurance where they put a GPS tracking device in your car... No Thanks, Progressive...I don't need a spy riding with me to save a few bucks...
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Posted - December 22 2012 : 11:50:56 PM
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Exactly, bad part is,if your up there in the years or have lots of medical problems, they may deny you! Just watch that video.
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 12:39:01 AM
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What will they come out with next? Here's a site that explains how it all began:
http://nationalmedicaldeviceregistry.org/2012/02/02/medical-device-companies-unaware-of-who-have-their-implants/
Looks like for now they are only trying to track implantables like skin grafts and pace makers, things like that in case they are re-called. Still, it's frightening to think that we may all be forced to have a "tracker" implanted.
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 10:28:34 AM
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The day I am forced to have an implant is the day I buy a gun!
Sean
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 10:34:33 AM
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Linked to bank accounts. It's coming. The day will come when you cannot buy or sell without a chip in you. Go to the grocery store, swipe your hand or have your forehead scanned (wherever the chip is).
Unspoken expectations are premeditated failures.
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 10:36:19 AM
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quote:The day I am forced to have an implant is the day I buy a gun!
Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - December 23 2012 : 10:28:34 AM
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Don't wait. Get 1 or 2, now! (Guns, that is)
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Edited by - NC shortlines on December 23 2012 10:36:54 AM
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 10:41:12 AM
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The govt has been "forcing" us to do things for years....
Hey Sean, I think you've waited waay to long to get that gun....
The wife and I have some and were gonna get a couple more..
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Edited by - caboose 1 on December 23 2012 10:43:39 AM
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 11:59:35 AM
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Al this talk of gun regulation has spurred more gun sales than ever. It's impossible to get semi auto rounds in my town right now, all the ammo shops are sold out. Thing is, the guns used in these shootings weren't traded guns...they were all legally bought and owned. Guns aren't the issue here, the people behind them are.
If the government wasn't worried about a civil uprising spurring before, they should be now. They can't expect to shove us all into corners like cattle in the name of "freedom" without expecting some of us to actually want freedom.
Do we need more gun regulations? Nah, maybe a few more restrictions on the way private sales/gun shows are handled just to keep psychos from using those loopholes...but in the end, those "psychos" will just find other ways of killing people be it from homemade bombs, chemicals, whatever...
Get the psychos some decent mental help and stop lumping them all together in confined spaces (i.e. the prison systems) where they can trade their criminal knowledge, and give the mass murders some good old fashioned executional justice. Mental illness is a real problem, but you can't expect those people to have humanity without treating them for their issues from the beginning. Being trapped inside your mind can make people do all sorts of crazy things. Look at that NFL star that just killed his girlfriend and toddler a few weeks ago, don't tell me in his whole life no one noticed something "off" about him. No, they just pushed him to play to his strengths (football) and deal with his inner demons quietly and then blame the guns when he actually killed someone. Craziness.
The worst part is, Americans have lost their voice over the centuries. We are not heard, we make a mark on a piece of paper every year, or four, and no change is ever made. We put CEO's into the white house and expect them to help out people whom aren't in their own tax bracket. Nothing is free. We are allowing them to control us and allowing them to define who we are as people and as a united country without actually listening to not just what we want...but what we need.
I would sooner move to a third world country and give up all my beloved convenient commodities than let them implant something else to keep their big watchful eyes on me. We are supposed to be a democracy, not a dictatorship, yet everyday there is some new method being implemented to control and confine us...keep us in line and God forbid we should speak out against it, that would be treasonous.
I have a president, not a King...where are our voices? Lost in the laments of the grieving. Yes these shootings etc. are tragedies but is the emotional time of turmoil the best time to implement "change" for the good of "everyone"? I think not.
These are only one woman's specific opinions, not intended to offend anyone.
And now I will get off my soap box...
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 2:21:17 PM
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This is what happens when you pass a 2500 page bill just to see what's in it. 
To paraphrase Reagan: the most frightening sentence in the English language is "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 3:09:15 PM
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“In a Democracy, the people get the government they deserve”.
Of course those derisive 19th-century words of a Frenchman, true though they are, tend to oversimplify matters. And yet as long as “we the people” sequester ourselves into ridiculous, self-identified pigeonholes, “The Problem(s)” will never be solved. Too often, people espouse a personal ideal or belief as hardline gospel without considering the rich tapestry of wider issues and relationships at play. In today’s interconnected world, where telecommunications, travel, and trade ignore arbitrary geographic lines, there is no such thing as a “simple” or “one size fits all” solution. Yet modern mass-media has trivializes compromise and hard work into partisan soundbite swordsmanship, distracting with irrelevant wedge issues… and we eat this $#!^ up. Who cares that a properly reasoned and measured response might be found? The “other guys” are wrong so screw ‘em!
News flash: Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same tarnished coin. You flip it in the air every election cycle, and what do you get when it lands? More of the same, from the same corrupt mint, regardless of “side”. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results.
If “we the people” want different results from “our worthless government”, then where does it need to start? It shouldn't end with bitching on a forum (about trains of all things), but sadly, that's where most of it stays.
Back to one issue mentioned: “More guns” is the answer of a cowardly violent simpleton. “No guns” is the answer of a hopeless naïve romantic. “Control” would seek to find an elusive and malleable balance, but “control” is a bad word to people who have been brainwashed into thinking they are “free”. And the topic of “violence prevention” is so nuanced with innumerable causes and variables…
…I had the painful task of talking to my 5 and 8 year-old daughters about Sandy Hook, after their schools implemented knee-jerk measures and of course word got around. I had to answer my oldest’s questions of “why didn’t they know he would do something?” with uncertainty. Why, indeed. Do you brand every awkward loner as a homicidal lunatic? When all this technology we love so dear is the brainchild of hundreds of awkward loners? Some of whom I’ll bet are reading this now? Of course not. To paraphrase another of her questions: “Is every guy who drives and old car wearing dark clothes and a ski mask up to something?” If you want to live your life in that kind of fear, OR outlaw and regulate everything, then The Terrorists Have Already Won.
Legally purchased weapons were used for the crimes. Clearly the answer is not control in the currently-practiced sense. Armed guards were powerless at Columbine, and accidentally shot up innocents at the Empire State Building, so the NRA’s position is woefully misguided. Better measures in good faith exist somewhere in between. But it will take a collaborative effort from ALL walks of society – gun owners, law enforcement, parents, caretakers, peers, friends, employers, etc.
Ultimately, Que Sera, Sera. But we can certainly do better than we have been.
As for healthcare: I worked in the industry from 2000 thru 2007 and it’s as f***ed up a house of cards as can be imagined - LONG before “Obamacare” became a soundbite. He didn’t break it, but he certainly won’t fix it, and we seem determined not to let him (or anyone else) even try.
Let me summarize using our favorite site, ebay. Look for the Zoloft Tape Dispenser sometime. Yeah… they had tape dispensers custom-designed, tooled, and made in the shape of that happy little jellybean bastard. How much did that cost? To be given away to doctors, who happily write prescriptions, to keep us all satiated and distracted on Big Pharma’s Corporate Teats.
I’ve got more horror stories. The most noble pursuit and profession, completely corrupted by greed to the point where, quite literally, nobody even farking knows what anything should cost anymore!! Yeah, just TRY to fix that. And remember WE created this system.
RFID? Feh. That's just a symptom. You'll bitch about it for healthcare, but god forbid you actually have to WALK into the GAS STATION to pay for your fuel - or (GASP!) swipe your own credit card (wah, why can't I wave a "rewards card" around? Wah, can't they just bill my phone?)... Oh, where oh where is your "convenience" god now?
And on a third tangent, which I am guilty of: how many of us bitch about “corporate greed” while tethering our hopes, dreams, and retirements to the stock market? Got a 401(K) or pension? Corporate Greed is your friend when times are good… after all, that’s how you’ll retire. For people in my generation, a 401K is pretty much the only thing offered, like it or not. OK then… nevermind that wealth is neither created nor destroyed; it merely changes form and location just like energy and matter. So if you’re gonna win at this game, someone’s gonna lose. Man that sure sucks for someone, just hope it isn’t you.
We created this monster over decades, even centuries. Sound bite solutions will not slay it. Keep on buying those guns and blaming the government though, if it makes you feel better.
Caveat emptor.
/rant off, happy holidays!
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 4:32:13 PM
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I'll trust free market forces and private companies long before I'll trust the soporific words of an endlessly agitating demagogue, one who has built an almost cult-like following by dividing Americans into a hierarchy of victimhood status and turned them on one another.
"Greedy" corporations don't have the power to compel us to buy their product, or unleash the IRS on us when we don't (except maybe for those he's annexed and made de-facto arms of his administration). The One has seized that power, and ain't afraid to use it.
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I was saying that, circa 2007.
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 8:38:00 PM
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These kind of discussions got me in trouble before, so I'll resist the temptation to rant.
Besides...Tony pretty much covered it.
RFID has been a growing problem for years. But everyone still welcomes convenience.
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Posted - December 23 2012 : 10:02:25 PM
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Shoot, I don't!! I don't like its convenience except for immediate medical record reading!
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Posted - December 24 2012 : 12:56:23 AM
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Another crazy thing which is 100% FALSE is them morons think that the Auto Loader Cars will be used to haul prisoners somday 
WRONG!!
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Posted - December 24 2012 : 09:54:05 AM
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quote:“In a Democracy, the people get the government they deserve”.
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Tony,
Your rant is now my face book status!
Damn I wish I could write like you!
Sean
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