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Guys,
I thought I'd post some pictures of a IHC 2-8-2 that I have done, quite a bit of work too....

I got this locomotive from a yard sale some years ago....It was without a tender and was needing cleaned and all that as it looked to have sit around alot longer then it was old! LOL



As you see, this 2-8-2 got a set of "Elephant Ears" as the B&O added them to 2 of their Q class 2-8-2's for trying them out. However, these 2 locomotives were the only 2 to EVER get them, as they were deemed to cost intense to do the whole fleet of 2-8-2's.

The "Elephant Ears" were 100% custom made, there is NO factory parts on these, I cut and bended them for the contour they are, and then added in all the brass wire bracing and hand grabs on the front vertical sections. Got them fitted after boiler was painted and then painted them before adding them to the model!

I had a MDC Roundhouse shorty Vanderbilt tender on this locomotive for a time that was closely modeled to what the B&O's Q-4 class had. Even tho, it was not nearly close to what it should have been, so was merely a "stand in" for what it needed.

So, I came across a Rivarossi Vanderbilt that was broken, and thought it make a PERFECT Q-4 tender. So, I began to rebuild it to a shorter length as they were just a smaller version of the Vanderbilt tender used on the B&O's 2-10-2 class S-1's.....



This tender was cut twice, once behind the coal bunker, and the second time just behind the water fill hatch. These type cuts on a round tender are NEVER easy to do and nor easy to hide, but I think it turned out really well!





Then these pictures showing the rear deck, it was completely gone, only the center of it just above the couple draft gear box was present when I got the model. I totally rebuilt that area and made sure it was made to hold itself, and the coupler draft gear box as well, at correct height for a Kadee #5 to be installed.



This is simply the other side to show that the cut lines vanished!

The completed model?





The whole locomotive turned out better then I first thought, I just wished I had added more detail to it as all I did to the loco was remove the plastic cast on boiler railing, bell, and added a brass B&O "Capitol Dome" that was polished and had the background painted black to be like the real thing, would have been!


~John

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Jim
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very good looking John!
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nice loco Did B&O use "elephant ears" tho?
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Interesting look with those ears, John. Reminds me of some Japanese steam.
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Thanks guys!
As for the million dollar question, yes the B&O did use Elephant Ears, but only on 2 locomotives, both were 2-8-2's and of the Q-4 class. #4403.



And the other locomotive is not online to postures of so.... I'll have to look to see what # it is! I think its 4611, BUT the pictures online does not show the locomotive with them on it.....The picture I have is in my "B&O Power" book!

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You are a regular Minton Cronkhite! He was a scratch modeler of the 1930s to 1950s and was responsible for the original Chicago Museum of Science and Industry's model railroad layout in 1941, both in terms of building the layout and the operable engines and rolling stock. I first saw his work (the original layout) in 1966 and in that same year, I saw one of his last items as the cover of a 1966 MR issue.

You have some real scary talent there, John.

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Thanks for the compliments Ron! I have heard of Minton Cronkhite, and this was not the first time, I've been told I'm in the same modeling class as him.

As I know it, he done some real deal models of odd ball stuff that no one made for one reason or another and as far as I know his operating skills was before his own time, way back when!

As you see, I do attempt some what might seem impossible, but some thought on the procedure can change that if your mind set is in the right place!

~John

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the "elephant ears" didn't work out for B&O or what?
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quote:
the "elephant ears" didn't work out for B&O or what?

Originally posted by microbusss - October 16 2012 :  5:50:12 PM



Ben,
No, they were tried out on only 2 locomotives, both 2-8-2's, and were effective, BUT, the B&O's Motive Power department, deemed them to expensive to be used on the whole 2-8-2 class, or any other locomotives on the roster.

This is why I modeled one with them..... they were rare to see, and were something different on the B&O!

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Jim
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Very cool John, also check your PM box ;)
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true EM-1 UP & other Western railroads used them ears alot
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Yes they did Ben! I just thought it was something different and wanted a model on the B&O that was "different" and thats what I got with this one!

Jim, will do! I don't know if I'll get to it this morning but will when I'm home from my regular job!

~John

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I think I know where my 2-8-2 project will be headed in the near future. That is impressive.
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Thanks Harrison!!!!

Yeah it definately makes a IHC model stand out.....BUT remember the tender, is a custom Rivarossi that was broken, when I got it.....

~John

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