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 Posted - September 29 2012 : 9:08:26 PM
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Ok not sure whats going on here but my little 4-8-0 just stopped working, it won't move forward or reverse, no motor hum, nothing, it will light up still but no noise from the motor at all....not sure whats going on, wheels look clean, but to be sure I did use my tidy track wheel cleanner on it, I know the track is ok because I was just running another engine on the track before hooking up my tidy track to clean the steamer...so yea I kinda need a bit of help on this one!
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 9:48:57 PM
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Check the motor brushes, and make sure the brush springs are in place and pressing them against the commutator.
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 9:51:48 PM
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remove the boiler, try powering it up and spinning the worm gear or motor poles (if open) and see if it breaks free.
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 10:37:58 PM
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| Ok do we have an operations guide to removing the shell of this thing? as I don't want to break it if I can avoid that....
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 10:46:18 PM
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its mantua right? Screw under pilot wheel assembly, unscrew it then gently lift the boiler off the frame.
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 10:59:44 PM
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| It says Tyco on it I think it is the 1988 12 wheeler, but ill try your suggestion
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Posted - September 29 2012 : 11:50:30 PM
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i have 2 mantua (tyco) 4-6-0s they are not really any different from a 4-8-0. As i said just unscrew boiler from under the 4 wheeled pilot truck, and push the boiler stand towars the boiler, (the piece of piping above cowcatcher) and spush up the boiler. Then apply power, and try spinning the motor pole to see if anythign happens.
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Posted - September 30 2012 : 12:23:57 AM
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| well I moved the little things on either side of what I assume is the comuntator thingy and it jumped to life, then when i tried to put the shell back on it stopped again....so yea not sure what I should do with it but at least its not hopless
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Posted - September 30 2012 : 12:48:58 AM
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Jim,
Sounds like you got a missing spring, see if its magnatized to the motor anywhere!
OR its not strong enough to hold decent pressure to the brushes!
One other thing I'd check, is to see if the boiler shell is hitting the brushes on either side as if the motor is "twisted" as it sits on the frame, the replacement of the boiler can cause this! Because if the pins that hold the motor straight have over ridden them, it will turn! This means the single screw that holds the motor in place is loose!
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Posted - September 30 2012 : 12:58:55 AM
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ahhhh i think i know what's wrong. This reminds me of what happened to my Mantua 0-6-0. The motor would lock up and i'd have to free it with my fingers but it'd still lock up. I took apart the motor cleaned and oiled it put it back together, adjusted the rods, then someone told me that bent valve guides caused it. Straightened the valve guides and it all worked good again, I do not think that bent valve guides can really happen on a 4-8-0 but i'd check anyways...
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Posted - September 30 2012 : 11:44:37 AM
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Not really but can. Its just a piston rod. I say check for anything binding, all connections are good, electrically cleaned etc etc.
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