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Original photo removed and substituted with a replacement Tyco Alco from an auction.


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Wow...I often wonder the stories some of these could tell if they talked...
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My LoTW doesn't count cause it a pull-back toy

The wheels don't even fit a HO scale track!
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Mine's still in the UK...
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Perhaps you can turn that Krauss Maffei into a camera car

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my loco this week bachmann dcc/dc 2-8-0 baldwin
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A train show find from years ago. Needs work.



Originally posted by Alco Fan - June 24 2012 :  08:44:13 AM



Ouch! Talk about a bloody nose!

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got to be a camera locomotive as suggested ken
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Ouch! Talk about a bloody nose!

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Originally posted by choochin3 - June 24 2012 :  1:49:20 PM



At first I thought it took a bloody nose dive, but it looks more like someone ripped the headlight assy. right off.

That 2-8-0 looks sharp in demonstrator lettering, Ken.

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A train show find from years ago. Needs work.



Originally posted by Alco Fan - June 24 2012 :  08:44:13 AM



Ouch! Talk about a bloody nose!

Originally posted by choochin3 - June 24 2012 :  1:49:20 PM



These KM-4000's are rather sought-after, haven't seen many under 50 on Ebay or at train shows. I managed to score a couple on Ebay that were in an unidentified lot, and a couple at a train show for 25 and 35. Since they're unusual, I had to have some.
Here's a LOTW for me.



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Carrying over from last week, here's the final Tyco E-unit that never got posted

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Hey guys!

This is my LOTW!

It is a $25 purchase ...early brass UP gas turbine:



I do not know who made it... any ideas Ken? ...anybody?

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This is my loco of the week I purchased at my LHS. I also need help in identifying the manufacturer...

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Sean, THATS an SWESOME $25 purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for identity, it looks to be an old ALCO Models, model, I'm not sure but.....Its really difficult to tell, can ya get me a shot of the underframes that beast? I be more able to tell!

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The 0642 switcher is a Lionel HO piece, made 1961-1962; it's missing a trailing truck as it should be a 2-4-2 and uses the old Hobbyline switcher body on a new chassis sharing drive wheels with the Lionel (former English) 4-6-2. It's nicknamed the "haybird" -
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Sean, THAT'S an AWESOME $25 purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for identity, it looks to be an old ALCO Models, model, I'm not sure but.....Its really difficult to tell, can ya get me a shot of the underframes that beast? I be more able to tell!


Thanks John!

ALCO may be correct. I purchased a boxed ALCO brass SD-40 for a whopping $26 from the same seller!

Here is the underside:


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Carrying over from last week, here's the final Tyco E-unit that never got posted

Originally posted by DaCheez - June 24 2012 :  11:50:05 PM


I want that loco someday!
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Cheez, really nice E-7, me wants too.

AMC, VG KM examples. I have an RG that was painted black and I stripped most of it to show the original paint.

Mike , Cool steamer, Lionel's numbers often started with a "0"

M&T, I like diesels and yours and the price is right.

Everybody else thanks.

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Oh why not? I'll post a old Tyco loco of mine

I got a few V&T passenger cars that are Pocher for this
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Sean, what a great buy! I bought a Ken Kidder plantation for $15 at a show once. It was in nice shape.
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microbuss, thats the only general i want becaue of the paint
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Here is my Crescent models E6. Can somebody give me more Info about this engine?

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hi CNVIATyco,wish i could comment on your item,but cannot see what you have written ken
http://www.hoseeker.net/crescent/crescentemc2800pass.jpg
emc 2800 (emd e7a)
they were going to make power trucks not sure if they ever did,but baker power trucks fitted that body if you can find em,otherwise scratch build them?
what other bits you got with it
three photos one of power trucks
http://hoseeker.org/gallery/index.php?album=hotrains2%2Fcresent&image=Crescent-E-7-brass-Kit.jpg
my favourite diesels

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Thanks, but I wanted to see how much its worth.
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hi CNVIATyco politeness would have seen you change the colour,as i have no idea what you replied ken
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Ohhhhhh. Thats the problem. Sorry ken. I would like to know how much its worth.
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like i asked before have you any other parts in the box,as the more you have of it the more it may be worth,Sean`s the man for that ken
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Yes, I think I have everything in the box and a B Unit in better condition.
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that will certainly make it worth more,have you the power trucks as that will most certainly up the value ken
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[quote] Here is my Crescent models E6. Can somebody give me more Info about this engine?



Illustrated assembly instructions at HOSeeker ( three pages beginning here):

http://hoseeker.org/crescent/crescentemc2800pass.jpg

When bought new this kit had a instruction plan to show you how to bend, shape and solder these pieces to get the right profile. According to a friend of mine and his one engine that came with boxes the nose pieces and instructions came in a separate box much like some Varney steam engine kits.

I had an A&B matched set that I sold on eBay a few years ago for ~$20:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4750641128/in/photostream/

Therefore, I would venture to say, do what you like with it...it's not worth much! But if you clean it up and polish it, I am sure it will be worth a lot more than what mine sold for. But I think the demand for that particular model is just not quite high enough to make it worth it. I think they are nice pieces, for vintage units.

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hi CNVIATyco, I agree with Sean value wise,but if you have a local hobby shop or a local swap meet,or even friends,do not blurt out that you paid $5,avoid giving or putting a price on it,just aim for a trade or credit that you are happy with ken
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Originally posted by SCVR66 - June 25 2012 :  1:07:36 PM



yeah I think it pretty pricey on Ebay? But I got it for $15 or $20 at the Denver train show one year Thats cheap plus mine came in a box
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Sean, THAT'S an AWESOME $25 purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for identity, it looks to be an old ALCO Models, model, I'm not sure but.....Its really difficult to tell, can ya get me a shot of the underframes that beast? I be more able to tell!


Thanks John!

ALCO may be correct. I purchased a boxed ALCO brass SD-40 for a whopping $26 from the same seller!

Here is the underside:



Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - June 25 2012 :  07:28:19 AM



Sean,
You got your self a good one there! It actually looks like an OLD Varney! The style of trucks and gearing says so..... BUT, that would be in question as if the "shell" is brass, I'd bet money it is actually a Varney, so you might have one of those from them, that was a big mass production. (I had a friend what worked for Varney, and I had lost him to old age about 2 years ago, and they had ALOT that was never mass produced, BUT there were items, such as a SP 2-8-8-4, ALONG with a B&O 2-8-8-4, (I know that the wheel arrangement exists, BUT its REALLY crude! I DAMN NEAR bought one on ebay till it went out of price range about 2 months ago! (WAS REALLY tempted!)

So your Veranda, I'd almost say it was a one off, too by Varney, its to close to the type gearing they used on the trucks! Not to mention, that the other "unpowered" trucks, are cast, and not brass!

Question, you know if the shell is cast or is it brass? You might have yourself a real collectors item there! Lucky guy you are! I'd love to get my hands on one of the Veranda Side Turbines, and I don't even model UP!

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This is my loco of the week I purchased at my LHS. I also need help in identifying the manufacturer...

Mike

Originally posted by Mike - June 25 2012 :  12:23:43 AM


Mike, that looks to be an A.C. Gilbert, but I'm not 100% positive! Correct me guys here as I'm not completely sure but the body lines have the looks of an A.C. Gilbert.

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the body looks like a Gilbert its that loco chassis that's odd in the sense it rides to high and doe`s not slope as per Gilbert looks like what the trade call a marriage ken
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Ivrr325 is correct, it is Lionel HO. I found this picture and others on the internet.

Thanks for all the input.

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That a very odd loco Either the locois too small for the wheels or the wheels is too big for the loco Looks very toy-like but I likes it
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The cab number gives that thing away as postwar Lionel. Lionel also had a small starter set 2-4-2 and 0-4-0 that has similar boiler and cab lines. I cant find one on the bay where it's facing the same way, but this is what I was thinking of.
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Oh why not? I'll post a old Tyco loco of mine

I got a few V&T passenger cars that are Pocher for this

Originally posted by microbusss - June 25 2012 :  10:58:15 AM



Ben,
I know where there sits 2 of those 4-4-0's painted EXACTLY the same as this one you have!

I'm working on getting them both as the guy that has them, is asking $25.00 for the PAIR! So.......

You may see them, in my near future!

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Thanks for the info guys. I guess Ill clean it up with vinegar today. I paid $16 for the pair, and the B Unit looks much better with the parts. This unit also has the parts.
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Thanks for the info guys. I guess Ill clean it up with vinegar today.


Try a quick dip in TARNEX first. I promise you will get faster and better results. I ahve been reusing the same (2) jars for the past couple of years. Results are awesome. Be weary of exposing the solder for too long. That will turn the brass black if kept in too long. A quick dip will loosen up the tarnish and make it mush easier to clean. Afterwards rinse with water and brush it with a brass wire brush.

TARNEX reacts badly with solder and diecast. So if what you want to clean has any of this on it, do not leave it in long. I do a quick dip to get the cleaning started and then do the rest myself by hand. It will turn the brass black if it is let in too long with the diecast or solder. Therefore, soldered brass pieces can be cleaned, but not left in too long. Example:

Before:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5171162293/

After:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5530658811/in/set-72157625254900663

Plating on drivers and drive rods will disappear if left in too long. Drivers I do not do. Drive rods only for a very very short period of time...maybe ~1-2 minutes with some checking in between.

I did the valve gear on the Varney Berkshire this way and then finished it off with my Dremel stainless wire wheel.


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I say retrofit that E-6A shell onto another frame like a Cary or a Proto series or Rivarossi.
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Nice Crescent Model E-6. Is that brass ? Cool find.
Busss, pretty V&TRR steamer. How does it run?

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here's my new rare beauty!! Waited all week till the last few minutes to bid on this kit and no one challenged me!! for $50 i was excited to own this rare unique engine! I've always wanted to build one and the ciruc paint made me want it more. I can't believe i snagged it for only $50! Only 500 were made!

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Busss, pretty V&TRR steamer. How does it run?
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I was messing around with it at friends house after I laid out the straight EZ Tracks & I pulled 3 Tyco Amtrak combines & 2 Pocher V&T passenger cars & one V&T flatcar It pulled them all
I'll admit it did look silly pulling the Amtrak cars
The Pocher flatcar had Rivarossi trucks on it
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Ivrr325 is correct, it is Lionel HO. I found this picture and others on the internet.

Thanks for all the input.

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Oh My God!!!!!!
It's the fabled FRANKENCHOOCH!!
Run for your lives!

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While my Greenberg's Guide to Lionel HO doesn't say so, I suspect the 0642 and later versions were an attempt to standardize so that this engine used the same wheels and pilot as the 4-6-2. In that sense it's a combination of Hobbyline and English tooling. Or maybe the tooling for the smaller wheels broke, they were only on the 0602 and the 0642 switchers; the 0602 0-6-0 was 1960 only, the 064 0-4-0T lasted longer but I suspect was made up of parts on hand by the end; I have about five of them. Either way it made for a goofy looking little engine.

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Alcofan-Yes, it is brass. Sean-Thanks for the tip. Ill try it.
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This weeks is a old Aristo Craft B&O Royal Blue 4-6-0
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Been looking for this for a while...
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This weeks is a old Aristo Craft B&O Royal Blue 4-6-0
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Frank,
I have a tender to that locomotive! Same paint and number! (I sort of thought it was a tender to a B&O Camel, NOT a Camelbac k but one of the old Camels.....) Because of the large numbers on it, instead of the "Baltimore & Ohio" lettering!

Nice to know!

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