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i have been on ebay for years,and have never seen a brass mantua,last week i did and won it,at least the engine,just got to find a tender now ken
does not look much,we will have to wait and see,better photos on its arrival
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Posted - April 21 2012 : 7:24:08 PM
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What I nice find Ken. Gots ya project now I see.
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Posted - April 21 2012 : 7:50:41 PM
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NICE win Ken!
I have been wanting to get ahold of a Mantua 4-4-2, for awhile (I have one, but its plastic), and would like to have a running mate to go with mine as my whole collection is based off "2"................of everything!
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Posted - April 21 2012 : 10:55:32 PM
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what year is it? The motor looks newer
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Posted - April 22 2012 : 06:58:58 AM
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hi SCVR66,this should answer your question,as far as i can see its the original ken
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 08:11:11 AM
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arrived today,well pleased,a good start to a rare locomotive ken
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 1:36:40 PM
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i would think this was made up from a kit,as original owner never cleaned up the flash on the drivers,got a lot of work to do on this one,need tender, front truck, boiler door,bell,the platform with handrail that goes between boiler and steam chest and lots more,most i will try to find or make ken
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 8:20:48 PM
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Those early ones had a nice gearbox. 
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 07:20:02 AM
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| tested power last night,motor gearbox and drivers all ok,which is a good start,ken
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 1:03:38 PM
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Ken,
Thats a nice one..... a semi-brass 4-6-2......At first glance, I thought it was a 4-4-2, till I actually stoped and had a closer look!
VERY NICE! If I'm not mistaken, thats a Reading Railroad prototype!
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 1:11:54 PM
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yes mate its a g1 from a well informed source (and by now we should all know who that is regarding the reading) ken
ps sorry if i keep on about this item,but if you knew how long i have been after one you might understand
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 6:14:20 PM
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It's just the age thing Ken!
We go on when we're little and later on as we head back to the beginning as it were we start again! 
They were on my radar too at one time, but gone now. Not even sure I'll keep my Varney Super Consolie and Super Mike.... we'll see.
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 6:33:41 PM
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gareth,just do not want folks to think i am gloating,i am just chuffed,i found something i have always wanted ken
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 6:46:54 PM
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Ken:
Have a Happy Dance Pal!
Why not. Enjoy. 
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 8:06:44 PM
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Ken,
Well I understand the "repeat" on the topic, my friend, I was looking for a BRASS B&O EM-1, some years ago, and I have since found one and have redone it (I have a topic under the topic for "all others not mentioned" sectoion....) Amd then I picked up a new Spectrum B&O EM-1 which I'm sure you've seen my video's in different places of the forums!
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Posted - April 27 2012 : 8:48:12 PM
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Hi ken. Yep A G1 but not modified. Stock and missing parts.
1 Main rods a set of 2. 2 pistons, a set of 2, 3 smoke box front, 4 Head light. 5 insulated rear piece with metal pin for tender pickup. 6 screw for 5. 7 complete tender. 8 front 4 wheel truck. 9-10-11 screw, spring, and washer for front truck. 12 bell. 13 left side fire box running board with hardware. 14 right side running board. motor parts 15 one brush right side. 16 insulated brush holder. 17 spring for right side brush. 18 valve gear set complete with rivits. I think that is all.
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Posted - April 28 2012 : 08:10:58 AM
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thanks for the list frank,saved me a lot of work,considering how hard to find these locos are in usa,can you imagine how hard it would be to get one over here,i am pleased to have what i have,the hunts not over yet,i will have a complete loco one day ken
ps frank i have the brush and holder i forgot to put it back for photo
any one who may have any parts for this no matter how large/small please pm me,very happy to pay
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Posted - April 28 2012 : 4:17:51 PM
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I wonder how that one originally made its way to the UK.
Lucky find, Ken, and I'm happy to hear you're chuffed... I think. That is a good thing, right? 
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Posted - April 28 2012 : 5:26:44 PM
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| hi NickelPlate,firstly yes it means good,great even fantastic,regards the g1,have since found out he`s american,moved here 21 years ago ken
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Posted - April 29 2012 : 6:41:05 PM
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Ken,
Great find Ken! Can I ask what you paid? The going rate here in the US is about $150 for one in that state. I have about 7 of those gems ranging from complete to parts value / restorable. The date from ~1948 through 1952 as regular production pieces and then from 1952 onward to ? as special order only.
Here is my parts stash of them:
Here one of about 4 that I have on display at work:
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Posted - April 29 2012 : 7:05:48 PM
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sean i paid ÂŁ17.89 or $29.10us and in my mind a real bargain,regards your stash does it all come off ebay or do you go to auctions ken
ps would like just 1 minute in that box
as they say in for a penny in for a pound,stripped ready for inspection and cleaning
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Posted - May 01 2012 : 3:04:15 PM
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Sean,
Ken wants one minute, I'd be in there 30 seconds......[LOL}
Ken,
Looks like you been busy! Can't wait to see what your all gonna do with the 4-6-2!
I'm wanting to get a Mantua 4-4-2 at some point, but.....After my most recent purchases and such, I've got no "play money" left so......off to trading if need be!
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Posted - May 02 2012 : 8:11:27 PM
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progress so far motor cleaned,re wired,gearbox cleaned and lubed,wheels tidied flash nearly gone,ken
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Posted - May 03 2012 : 01:37:34 AM
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Nice work Ken!
I must ask, you planning to keep it original with the missing parts and such? I ask as alot of that, for me would have to be replaced with better castings as I'm hot on good details, like a 1960's Akane B&O EM-1 as I know you've seen my posting onit so.... (YEAH, I'm a rivet counter, to an extent!)
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Posted - May 03 2012 : 04:44:31 AM
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hi em-1 gonna keep this one as original as possible,if i manage to get another,i will make it as close as possible to the real thing ken
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 8:15:54 PM
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awaiting parts for the locos,as far as i have got,but getting there ken
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 06:34:58 AM
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quote:awaiting parts for the locos,as far as i have got,but getting there ken
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Ken,
What type boiler front you looking for as it doesn't look to have a boiler front and if your looking for a brass one I may have one..... I'd say your looking to find one thats like the picture of the real thing? Yes?
Let mek now as I might have something ot fit the boiler.
amnyone know what the size of the boiler is? That way I can see what I might have in my detail parts bins!
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:17:13 AM
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Ken!
I scored another one the other day. It must have been my lucky day as it was listed in this lot here as a BIN for $100.
I could potentially make most of that $ back on parting out the first generation Mikado behind it!
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:18:40 AM
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quote:awaiting parts for the locos,as far as i have got,but getting there ken
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That Reading Pacific really looks GREAT Ken!
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 11:06:55 AM
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| thanks sean,got boiler front coming from yardbird,and a few other bits,we are getting there ken
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 12:46:28 PM
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Can;t wait to see it whole again and running!
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 1:58:49 PM
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 2:22:14 PM
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quote:nor can I,but I will have to be patient ken
Originally posted by catfordken - May 16 2012 : 1:58:49 PM
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I do not get along well with patience...
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Posted - May 27 2012 : 7:54:40 PM
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parts are arriving daily,thanks to a good friend here and yardbird (dan) ken
only a few more bits that i cannot make,like the smokebox door (dan) and the 2 small platforms by the cab to find plus the valve gear
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Posted - May 27 2012 : 8:05:09 PM
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In theory Sean as you get older you become more intimate with patience. If not, you get crabby old man's disease! 
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 09:53:48 AM
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progress so far,got a few more bits to add,but the screws are so small i cannot fit as yet,old eyes,big hands,np 2-8-4 in the background is a pk2 ken
thanks to a member got this one waiting,but this will be a repaint as per mantua
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 10:16:20 AM
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Is this another one Ken? Man! Now you almost on your way to having a fleet of them!
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 10:18:04 AM
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yes Sean have 2,one complete and one on its way to being ken
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 11:44:27 AM
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Ken those G1 class are looking good.
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 11:55:03 AM
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| why thank you good sir,i am enjoying this project,ken
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 12:06:05 PM
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train are fun
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 12:20:35 PM
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| the good thing about having 2 locos that are the same,is you can use one as a template ken
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 12:23:34 PM
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Ken you should transfer over the parts from my old one to complete the one for your collection. I would guess that to be more important.
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 12:29:00 PM
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| frank am making where possible tthe parts that are missing,if the parts that are missing are out of site,will modify,both are important,so each will take its turn ken
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 1:46:05 PM
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Ken,
For the most part, the valve gear and rods are the same as that which were used on the die cast Mantua Pacific locos. If you find an early version with the enclosed drive gear, I believe they are exact matches. The only parts that do not match up are the brass crossheads that fit inside the inverted channel on the steam chests.
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 2:14:57 PM
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| cheers for that Sean will check it out ken
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 10:33:46 PM
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Ken, that first one is looking a lot better than it did when it arrived. Looks nice next to the P2K Berk, too.
I see doubleheaded Reading Pacifics in your future.
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Posted - May 30 2012 : 11:48:36 AM
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hi np759,just chilling at the mo looking at the progress of my double headheader,ken
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Posted - May 30 2012 : 10:28:02 PM
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Ken,
VERY nice! I can almost hear the boiler thump of 2 Reading G-1's as they pass double headed!
Now, for me to pull that off with 2 B&O EM -1's! The guys think the "Pulling Record" at my local club is impossible to beat, well, wait till I have 2 of 'em thumpin at once! on one L-O-N-G train!
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Posted - May 31 2012 : 11:16:53 AM
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chilling out again,double header looking a bit better,just a few parts to arrive,and a few to make and we will be ready to go,sorry about the quality but did not want flash on screen ken
test sidings getting backed up
now waiting for the parts to arrive
1,boiler door/headlamp/bell assembly (yardbird)
2,valve gear
3,boiler supports (making)
4,Bakelite insulator/tender connecting pin (making)
5,powerlead and pin for connecting to tender (making)
on the original picture of the mantua pacific,something went in the hole behind the stack,got to find out what it was
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Posted - May 31 2012 : 6:24:21 PM
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Nice work, Ken. You've restored them both up very quickly, and they look great. 
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