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Just got this this week, main reason for bidding on the lot was for this engine. Looks like someone detailed it fairly authentically, I believe some did have a bell up front like this one. Not fond of the color, but a nice paint job on it, very clean lines.
I may run this on my Proto 2000 chassis. if anyone knows what AV means, or has seen this scheme before, let me in on it, will ya?
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Posted - January 27 2012 : 6:49:02 PM
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The only thing I could find is the Allegheny Valley Railroad, but I can't find any pictures of that scheme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_Valley_Railroad
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Posted - January 27 2012 : 10:10:08 PM
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Another hint I found was the Aroostook Valley ( of Bangor and aroostook ? ) railroad. They seem to have a few yellow and gray items, but none definitive. But since B&A had BL-2's, it may fit in with that best, if a fantasy merger or acquisition. Thanks for bringing up Allegheny, that lead me to the Aroostook Valley. 
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Posted - January 28 2012 : 11:29:59 AM
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its in UP Armour Yellow & looking at it I think the horn is backwards 
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 Posted - January 28 2012 : 5:13:59 PM
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quote:its in UP Armour Yellow & looking at it I think the horn is backwards
Originally posted by microbusss - January 28 2012 : 11:29:59 AM
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I second that motion... AV... for the... Audio Vicious? 
eh... no?
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Posted - January 29 2012 : 01:21:05 AM
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I can tell you for sure its not the Allegheny Valley. I'm local to them and know their background pretty well. Local shortline that got started back in the 90's. Always had a thing for GP's and occasionally SW switchers. But never a BL2. Their fleet now consist of GP-11's painted in a handsome maroon scheme, and a couple of ex-KCS SD-40's. Their usual reporting marks on everything on AVR not AV. Still I'll admit, first thing I thought of when I saw the picture was Allegheny Valley haha. Maybe it was for someone's freelance railroad?
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Posted - February 06 2012 : 11:52:56 AM
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I finally dug these out of my archive. Current operations on the AVR near Pittsburgh:
 
It really is a nice-looking paint scheme. Supposedly, it's in homage to the PRR that used to run these same lines, so long ago.
Sorry for the poor photos. I snapped them hastily from an overpass. Check out NickelPlate's link for a proper profile shot. Different units, but the same look. Unfortunately, this doesn't help to identify AMC's unit - except by process of elimination!
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Posted - February 06 2012 : 1:11:23 PM
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Based on the checkered history of the prototype's limited numbers, I'm going to "bet" the AV is a freelance job.
The BL2 was not a success, and was basically a test / development platform in the field. The biggest knock against them was they were very difficult to work on: the modified carbody meant you couldn't work on the internals from within the cowl like you could on an F-unit, but there were no external access doors either. Not only that but the rear switching platform was essentially isolated from the rest of the locomotive. Looking into the disposition of Monon's fleet, they were only too happy to get rid of them. The Rock Island was also an original owner - unsurprising given their penchant to try any and everything, yet even they didn't hang on too long. The WM's units survived the longest but the WM was known for taking very good care of its equipment.
The BL2 was almost immediately revised into the GP7 which became a runaway success. Given the quirks of the BL2's design and operating characteristics, plus its high maintenance costs, I can't see any shortline or startup - no matter how desperate - taking a chance on owning one secondhand, especially if/when so many traded-in and proven workhorse geeps would be available for a song.
That said I do someday hope to roster one on the STC as well ;)
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Posted - February 06 2012 : 5:43:47 PM
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It may have been impractical and hard to maintain, but at least it had it's looks. 
quote:...I think the horn is backwards
Originally posted by microbusss - January 28 2012 : 11:29:59 AM
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Probably to clear the bell. That crew would get one heck of an earful.
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Posted - February 06 2012 : 9:30:59 PM
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Wow!
Ugly scheme on an Ugly....
Hey wait there's an upside for Jerry here..
Any time someone says Gremlins and Hornets are Ugly Jerry can say; You think THAT's UGLY!? Take a looka here! 
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 Posted - February 07 2012 : 12:52:02 AM
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Geez, Gareth... tell us how you really feel.
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Posted - February 07 2012 : 05:06:59 AM
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quote:...Based on the checkered history...
The BL2 was not a success, ...biggest knock against them was they were very difficult to work on: the modified carbody meant you couldn't work on the internals from within the cowl like you could on an F-unit, but there were no external access doors either. ...rear switching platform was essentially isolated from the rest of the locomotive. ...only too happy to get rid of them. The Rock Island ...they didn't hang on too long. The WM's ... was known for taking very good care of its equipment.
The BL2 was almost immediately revised into the GP7 which became a runaway success. Given the quirks of the BL2's design and operating characteristics, plus its high maintenance costs, I can't see any shortline or startup - no matter how desperate - taking a chance on owning one secondhand, especially if/when so many traded-in and proven workhorse geeps would be available for a song.
That said I do someday hope to roster one on the STC as well ;)
Originally posted by spiderj76Â -Â February 06 2012Â :Â 1:11:23 PM
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They also had to be turned around or permanently back to back to be kept running as did the F-Units. The Steam Generator (if equipped) was also housed in the nose with the exhaust stack bolting up between the windshields.
No B-Units... but, perhaps they were the first Pre-Geeps that sported a "Safety Cab" before it's time, eh? 
You gotta experience a few D's in order to enjoy a C+
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Posted - February 07 2012 : 10:41:20 AM
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quote:I finally dug these out of my archive. Current operations on the AVR near Pittsburgh:
/tyco/forum/uploaded/TKRR/20120206114443_144_4492.JPG /tyco/forum/uploaded/TKRR/20120206114508_144_4494.JPG
It really is a nice-looking paint scheme. Supposedly, it's in homage to the PRR that used to run these same lines, so long ago.
Sorry for the poor photos. I snapped them hastily from an overpass. Check out NickelPlate's link for a proper profile shot. Different units, but the same look. Unfortunately, this doesn't help to identify AMC's unit - except by process of elimination!
-Todd
Originally posted by TKRRÂ -Â February 06 2012Â :Â 11:52:56 AM
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Nice! I had some close up pics of the AVR a coworker took but I can't attach them. However two things worth noting about them. The parent company of the AVR also owns the Southwest Pennsylvania Railroad (SWP) and their sister engines are the same color.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=364801&nseq=14
There is rumor that the SD45's they own are going to go into Royal Blue B&O paint but that hasn't happened as of yet.
If you've seen the movie "Unstoppable" AVR/SWP units make cameo appearances 
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Posted - February 07 2012 : 8:34:11 PM
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| Are you talking about the SD's used on the coal run from SWP to WE to AVR to wherever? Last I saw them, they were really bland looking, like they needed an identity. Maybe they'll finally get one with the B&O scheme. AVR/SWP cobbled together a lot of various trackage - and some of it traces to the B&O. It would make sense.
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