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 Posted - January 08 2012 : 4:11:38 PM
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any one tried this,says its solution to end the hunt for out of production tyres,and improve performance ken
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 4:40:43 PM
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| The hobby has come full circle. When I was coming up in it, we did everything we could to get rid of traction tires, eventually convincing most makers to stop putting them in. Now our grandchildren are bringin' 'em back...
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 5:17:24 PM
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quote:any one tried this,says its solution to end the hunt for out of production tyres,and improve performance ken
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Originally posted by catfordken - January 08 2012 : 4:11:38 PM
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Personally, I haven't tried it, but I don't see how you can create an even, uniform tire/tyre from a gel you squeeze around something. How will it NOT develop lumps, bumps, etc and never be perfectly smooth?
But I just had a brainstorm about something else. I have access to plenty of heat shrink tubing at work, why not try to use that, and shrink it to fit the wheel? It's a plastic, but soft and pliable, might work ok as a traction tire. Getting the precise cut around the circumference will be a trial, but if it works, it can be built up a layer at a time to get the thickness you need. I'll have to take a Tyco power truck apart and see about trying that this month sometime on those axles. Hmmm.....
Jerry
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 5:21:55 PM
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| Jerry if you watch the video it shows how you get even tyres,just thought as its a chance it could solve problem as people are saying it does,it would be a good thing,ken
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 6:47:33 PM
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| Over at another forum, the mix was about 50/50 for and against.
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 7:47:08 PM
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I have tried it and it works well. The trick is trying to get enough and to get enough spread evenly over the wheel. I tried a few things like toothpicks and pins, but, The thing that worked best was the old Q-tip. I took a Q-tip and cut it at a 45 degree angel then dipped it in the snot and held it to the wheel which has to be spinning the opposite way of the point of the 45 degree angel. It did last for a while and even came off in an entire circular form. The other trick is to let it dry for the ENTIRE 24 hours or it won't work properly. The rule I use is that if it is still green then it isn't time to operate yet. It should dry for the most part a clear with a tinge of green or none at all. I used it on several of my old tycos and it worked great and increased the pulling power, but it only seems to last effectively for about three weeks. This means stripping it off and reapplying which can be time consuming and expensive since the stuff cost around $25.00 US. I am beginning to think that the old rubber rings with the tool to apply them is more effective in the long run. In the end it is up to you if you like it or not. I may try to cast a miniature frog out of it and go fishing. (-:
John
quote:any one tried this,says its solution to end the hunt for out of production tyres,and improve performance ken
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Originally posted by catfordken - January 08 2012 : 4:11:38 PM
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 7:56:36 PM
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Go to your local auto parts store and look at the carb o rings -many have small diameter that will fit. Just a suggestion
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Posted - January 08 2012 : 8:03:57 PM
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quote:I have tried it and it works well. ....but it only seems to last effectively for about three weeks. This means stripping it off and reapplying which can be time consuming and expensive ... I am beginning to think that the old rubber rings with the tool to apply them is more effective in the long run. .
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Originally posted by dirtboy45Â -Â January 08 2012Â :Â 7:47:08 PM
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Now, is that running it 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, for 3 weeks? Or just occasional operation, and it then stops working? If that's all you get out of it ( For HO, anyway ), I'd say it's not worth the hassle. N gauge obviously isn't as heavy, so wouldn't wear it out quick. Maybe we need a heavier formula for HO engines. Regardless, if 3 weeks of normal operation is all you get, I would not waste my time on it. For a shelf queen with occasional usage , it might be worth doing to even use it,but I just can't see only getting 3 weeks running time out of it before having to replace it. That'd be like having to change your oil filter every 200 miles. Ugh. No thanks.
I was trying to figure out what type of traction tires to use for my TYco Turbo train, I was looking at the Calumet diesel bands, and put one on, and it isn't thick enough. Ok, how about if I put TWO on each wheel? I squeezed the second tire on top of the first, no problem, and the Turbo now runs on the steel Bachmann EZ track with no problems.  There's actually a Turbo Train replacement kit available, I may buy one anyway. But looks like the Calumet drive bands will work for me on this particular engine for now. Now if I can squeeze in a decoder, I will really have fun with it at club shows and Open House functions 
Jerry
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