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Posted - December 29 2011 : 4:00:47 PM
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I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been discussed and I just haven't found it. I've dug out my old Tyco and was going through what was what. Does anyone know of a way to date Tyco? Aside from the obvious blue/red/brown boxes. I dont know if anyone here is even that type of a die hard.
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Posted - December 29 2011 : 4:28:53 PM
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Welcome to the site. To get some idea of the date your tyco is look at the bottom of the main page and check Tony Cooks web site if its not there it won't be tyco. Ken
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Posted - December 29 2011 : 5:45:32 PM
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quote:I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been discussed and I just haven't found it.Does anyone know of a way to date Tyco? .... I dont know if anyone here is even that type of a die hard.
Damion Pinta
Originally posted by newhudson - December 29 2011 : 4:00:47 PM
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Yes, plenty of Diehards here, Damion. Check out this site, it lists all the major manufacturers, and has good pictures to check yours against.
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/
You just have to dig through the sites to find what you want. And know which sites have the best info. Anyway, good luck searching, and welcome to the Forum.
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Posted - December 29 2011 : 9:18:52 PM
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I'm glad to see you're just looking for info. I was worried you were going to take your collection to dinner.
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Posted - January 01 2012 : 3:32:52 PM
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quote:I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been discussed and I just haven't found it. I've dug out my old Tyco and was going through what was what. Does anyone know of a way to date Tyco? Aside from the obvious blue/red/brown boxes. I dont know if anyone here is even that type of a die hard. |
The catologs on hoseeker.net can be very useful for dating what year specific paint schemes were made. Many paint schemes were in production for years though...in that case you have to look for certain characteristics on your engines such as the motor, coupler pocket style, etc,. If you can post some pics of your stuff I'm sure people here will be able to help you out
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Posted - January 01 2012 : 9:01:27 PM
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quote:The catologs on hoseeker.net can be very useful for dating what year specific paint schemes were made. Many paint schemes were in production for years though...in that case you have to look for certain characteristics on your engines such as the motor, coupler pocket style, etc,. If you can post some pics of your stuff I'm sure people here will be able to help you out
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This might be more of what I was looking for. I was getting Tyco in the 70's, then buying it in the 80's. Some of the same cars I have are variations, so I was more interested in what came first, and when. From the Goingincirclez site, is it a safe bet that say version A was produced well before version C?
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Posted - January 03 2012 : 4:21:30 PM
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I've had a rough draft of exactly this sort of thing for quite a while, but every time I think I'm ready to post something "semi-definitive" new information turns up.
BTW my site gallery is indeed arranged more or less in "chronological" fashion, but since captions were deprecated out of the plugin I use, it's not so obvious.
Anyway, there are MANY nuances you can look for to date an item. It's a huge list.... I'll try to summarize (can't pin to a timeline here):
OLDER >>> NEWER
White Metal > Black metal > Plastic
Metal chassis > plastic chassis
Body-mount couplers > Wide (metal) talgo coupler tongues > Narrow tongues > Plastic boxes
Screw-in trucks > Plastic with narrow metal axles > Snap-in trucks (plastic axles)
Nylon wheels > Delrin wheels
Open steps > Filled steps
PM1 > MU2 > PT
Greenbox > Bluebox > Redbox (Tyco in corner) > Redbox (Tyco top center) > Brown Box
(Brown box label styles)
(Engine roadnumber fonts)
As I said, it's an exhaustive subject. I've not been convinced of the interest in it, so I've not really invested the time to polish it out.
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Posted - January 03 2012 : 4:35:13 PM
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I would sure be interested. Although I am pretty good at figuring it out now. A chart would be neat. Basically just think they don't make em like they used to when you look at one and you can get a pretty good idea how far back it is. The better it is built and more detailed it is, generally means it is older. Less quality, and less detail is newer.. i am only speaking for Tyco made stuff here though..
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Posted - January 03 2012 : 6:06:28 PM
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still it is hard to date ANY model manufacture really Unless you have the original box  Especially when same model manufacture makes the same thing for years on end hehe
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Posted - January 07 2012 : 12:11:00 PM
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quote:As I said, it's an exhaustive subject. I've not been convinced of the interest in it, so I've not really invested the time to polish it out. |
Tony and group,
I wonder what the "average" Tyco collector is? A more serious HO modeler with a semi-casual interest in Tyco? I for one am OBSESSED with boxes. I think they help tell the tale of the piece. Give me one of everything made, every variation, and in as minty of a box as I can find. Are most of "us" less than interested in boxes and such?
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Posted - January 07 2012 : 1:00:10 PM
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It takes a lot of dedication and perseverance to collect as you suggest and that's cool. I'm not able to or willing do that and probably won't make the sacrifice of time, money etc. to get the best examples. My collecting habits aren't as rigid as those with the nicest items Boxes are neat and I especially like the Tyco boxes that show an artist's rendering of the accessory rather than a photograph of it. I'd like to have samples of the variations of boxes from Tyco/ Mantua and Ahtearn, Globe and others.
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Posted - January 07 2012 : 5:35:23 PM
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Up to this point in my life, with limited funds, I collect for mostly operations. yes, I'll buy a rare piece occasionally for a good deal, or hope to run it some anyway. But I almost never buy for a box, I just don't have that kind of cash and room. I'm mostly interested in the piece, not the cardboard it came in. To each their own. If I ever hit a major lottery, then I might have a collection worthy of a Tyco Museum, but until then, I just collect what I like.
Jerry
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