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 Posted - November 28 2011 : 10:34:44 AM
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Hey Gents;
Anyone have one of the Bachmann 35 ton Switchers? It looks a little bit like the Tyco Davenport in the sense of having an oversized cab.
I'm interested in the running qualities....
If you've had one and run it, or currently have one and run it, let me know how it ran.
Sidenote; if your feedback is monosyllabic save it for puns please. "They're cool" is not a review of anything except maybe Jefferson Airplane! 
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Gareth
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 11:25:37 AM
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They are typical low end locomotives in that they run OK, but not well enough for use as a switcher. I found that, by cannabalizing one to replace the traction ring equpped drivers with a driver not so equipped, it greatly improved electrical pickup. In real life they wouldn't have pulled more than 5-7 cars anyway. The parts of the newer ones are not interchangable with the older ones, the newer ones (from the parts I ordered for my older one) now have a worm gear drive and completely redesigned frame. I was able to work those new parts in, but only with massive quatities of experience and ...umm... redesigning... 
With that redesigned mechanism, they may well be a better model than in the past, but I don't know this first hand..
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 11:31:51 AM
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Shay; got pics of those mods?
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 11:51:13 AM
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It just consisted of opening up the new axles to receive the old drivers, then gauging them with an NMRA standards gauge...
The center drivers are riveted in. You can see the helical cut on the new gears for mating with a worm gear. This added a little chatter with the straight cut spur gears, but not objectionable.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 12:08:48 PM
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Thanks Shay.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 3:18:50 PM
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Which Switcher are you talking about? The 3 Axle Plymouth? Or the 2 Axle foobie?
And BTW, Island Modelworks has a Sale today!
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 4:30:52 PM
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Gareth,
Here's the new drive.
It's very smooth and has low speed gearing, although the Bachmann motor is prone to stalls due to the very small commutator & brushes.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 4:40:10 PM
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Nelson, can you please toss the Pic you had of a Plymouth MDT?
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 4:50:56 PM
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Well Heres mine!
And I don`t mean to be rude in any way shape or form, but they are called Plymouths and could you please call them that to not confuse critter guys.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:16:15 PM
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Nelson;
Different Critter. 4 wheeler only but also a Bachmann the one I'm pursuing.
and Ian, read it again before you rush to tell us whats true.
Traditionally the larger Tyco Diesel which some call American OO because the body shell is more akin to 1/76th in scale is referred to as a Davenport.
The little centrecab Tyco/Mantua is referred to as a Plymoutth. It is in fact a CR-4 and somewhere I posted prototype pics for people.
Yours is what appears to be your oft posted "N" scale Plymouth or a reasonable facsimile therof. Not the same thing at all.
Shay, sorry should have said earlier i meant the four wheeler not the six. I do have the six wheeler. but I particularly like the sideframe detail on the 35T unit.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:18:31 PM
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Here is one of the switcher I have. Done up as N B Southern. It says Tyco made in Hong Kong.
It runs great you can almost see the ditch lights on both ends if you look real close. This was my first weathering job so don't laugh I'm trying.   
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:25:14 PM
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I was going by Nelsons Pic and his parts diagram Man, does that thing have alot of parts for a small little thing!
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:28:36 PM
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I dunno Ken, I think it looks fine.
The thing about weathering and aging.... is it's appropriate to it's locality. An engine weathered that operates where Hypo, or Ben live would look very different than here in south central Ontario where you and I are where they would show a lot more rust than the SW units...
Hey you should do an RCAF Blue one!
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:33:04 PM
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Thanks Gearth. The RCAF one is in the works.
I have a Tyco transformer set without the buildings and would like to know what it worth??
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:38:08 PM
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Tony's around, I'll leave that for the Centre Fielder.
Like that your little switcher sports "Hooks" and not "Bars"!
...in the north Atlantic Squadron!!!
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:49:23 PM
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Gareth, I think you're confoozled. That one you show was an AHM/Mehano product, and may have been picked up later by Model Power. http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/ahmhoscalelocomotives/id30.html Bachmann wouldn't import Mehano.
Ian, it's not bad to work on, really. I think the snap out weight in the front is the provision for a decoder.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:55:34 PM
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Nelson look at the box behind it. I know the box could be wrong, but there are a few listed in the Bachmann category on evilbay. Wonder if there was some cross-pollinating?
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 7:56:28 PM
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Well, I'll be dinged. They did.
http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/bachmannhoscalelocomotives/id48.html
They must have grabbed it from AHM in 1988 when AHM was floundering.
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Posted - November 28 2011 : 8:25:16 PM
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The finish of the casting particularly the underframe seems better. The definition of he suspension better it appears....
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 12:59:14 AM
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No, same tooling. It's just that the Santa Fe frame is molded in silver plastic that it highlights the sideframe detail. The only change they made was an inexpensive can motor.
Gareth, why don't you try one of these instead?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-25-TON-INDUSTRIAL-DIESEL-HO-Powered-Railroad-Locomotive-Kit-GL7091-/250941946798
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-23-TON-BOX-CAB-DIESEL-HO-Powered-Railroad-Locomotive-Plastic-Kit-GL7089-/250939505490
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 02:37:54 AM
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May be right about the silver.
I know of the two you posted links for but like the MP Hustler wanna be, I hate skirts on the chassis-Hurl....
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 3:58:28 PM
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quote:
Romcat... where the hell do you keep digging up these oddball critters from?!?!?! Do I get to try casting the shell on that one as well?
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 4:53:21 PM
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Funny you should mention that!
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 6:37:36 PM
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quote:May be right about the silver.
I know of the two you posted links for but like the MP Hustler wanna be, I hate skirts on the chassis-Hurl....
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Originally posted by romcat - November 29 2011 : 02:37:54 AM
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Yeah, except the Grandt Line is an accurate model, whereas the Model Power Hustler is a cheap toy knockoff.
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 7:18:10 PM
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Apparently NKP Lives in swithcer haven! Where do you get those pics? Nice Switcher!
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 7:20:16 PM
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Nelson;
Isn't that little thing a GE 25T?
If it's a GE I consider it in the same category as Hellmart, and MicroSloth! 
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 7:28:22 PM
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Oh, good Lord!
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Posted - November 29 2011 : 7:37:16 PM
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Nice to know my position is appreciated. 
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