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i meant to put these under bachmann  got these 3 today,only one did not work before i tinkered with it,all running now
spectrum 4-8-2 new haven,fire glow
spectrum 2-8-0 connie boston and maine
spectrum 2-10-0 Russian decapod erie
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 10:39:26 AM
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Hey Ken:
Ruskie Dec is nice!
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 10:46:57 AM
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does look good,did not run,found 2 problems,one pair of tender wheels wrong way round,and a loose wire ken
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 11:37:59 AM
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Ken : Very good trio of steamers. I like the Decapods the best. Before they came out only released in brass. The Erie loved those engines, not only kept them but acquired more. The CNJ used them little in the Pennsy back woods. There is said to be a photo of a pair of CNJ locos in front of Mauch Chunk ( Jim Thorpe ) station. The CNJ 's locos in appearance were little changed from the ones delivered to the Russians. They still had the locomotive walkway railings in place, Oil headlight, All weather winter cab, with sliding roof section and door. Very different from standard US steamers. There is a article on the Reading ones written by a fellow named Davis in the MR. That is who gave me the info on the photo at Mauch Chunk.
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 12:28:10 PM
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| interesting piece frank,thanks ken
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 12:51:35 PM
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Hey Frank:
What part of PA did they op these in?
Also, when did CNJ replace the Oil lamps on their Dec's?
Thaks for the history btw, always good to know!
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 2:11:03 PM
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Ken, Gareth : CNJ engineers didn't like them. Biggest problem was throttle arm motion to speed up was backwards from normal. Maybe you had to pull instead of push. I would guess the fireman loved them, if you burned anthracite coal. A lot less shoveling needed to be done. The CNJ had 19 of these locomotives. The only reference to their use is a photo taken at station at Mauch Chunk. It is in archives at Steamtown. Someone said that a few of the issued numbers were being run on the L&S. They received them with oil lamps. The CNJ refused to upgrade anything about these locomotives. I can find no info as to how they were returned in 1920.
* I kit bashed 2. I found it easier ( I was lazy) to reinstall the Bachmann electric lighting system, so mine have electric lighting.
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 2:41:04 PM
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here you are frank
2-10-0 were fairly common freight locomotives in the former Soviet Union. They came from several sources: US imports (class Ye (Russian: Ńерия Đ•), built by ALCO and Baldwin, respectively), German war trophy BR52 class locomotives (what became the Soviet TE-series) and locally built. The locally built 2-10-0 locomotives were represented by some TE (built from captured German parts), SO (Sergo Ordjonikidze) and L (Lebedyanski)-series locomotives. The L-series locomotives were one of the more advanced steam locomotives built in the former Soviet Union. They used an automatic stoker to feed coal and had a relatively low axle load (18 tonnes or 40,000 lb) to be compatible with the war-torn railroads of the former Soviet Union. Several examples of these locomotives are still preserved in working order.
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 3:30:11 PM
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Handsome Loco's Frank.
That rear cab roof "extension"? is interesting....
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 4:00:34 PM
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 4:03:35 PM
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hi gareth check my photo,its a true russian that frank did, good one there frank,you are right not much info on cnj ones ken
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 4:14:57 PM
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Ken:
Check it for what???
I wonder if I can find one of these earlier models in brass. I ave no interest in plastic at this point...
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 5:28:51 PM
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Well It looks like to me the extra cab on the tender was for them harsh Russian winters
Lets not forget Russia has a Broad Gauge track too 
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 6:05:06 PM
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just for you gareth
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 6:54:01 PM
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Hey ken:
While pretty that's no Ruskie Dec. Notice the firebox how wide it is? Thats cause the Reading was an Athracite Road. Frank can tell you lots about that. So was the LV, the PRR, D&H, maybe the CNJ ueah pretty sue the CNJ....
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 7:37:14 PM
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hi gareth i know they are called russian decapods,but where were they made,western maryland had russians with similar sized fireboxes,the photo is of a slsf one,my brass photos caught my eye more for the cab than the size of the firebox ken
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this is where i got my info
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/decapod/?page=pr
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 9:51:57 PM
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Yeah see what you mean-Cab roof extension. Honestly the Athracite firebox was what grabbed my attention!
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Posted - August 20 2011 : 10:01:32 PM
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Here is the real Baldwin built Russian decapod.
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 07:50:54 AM
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| frank i know what you say about the cnj russians,but over 200 were diverted to other us railroads,your picture shows one of the baldwins but alco also produced them,and as i said some were modified to suit the railroads who purchased,the western maryland being just one,ken
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 08:05:34 AM
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Who can ever explain why we like particular Locomotive design, huh?
Always liked the Russsian Decs. Never saw one with an oil lamp before.
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 09:29:24 AM
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Ken This is what I have on the Alco Russian decapod. The line at the top of the Baldwin is straight. The Alco, from the steam dome back across the firebox top, slants down toward the cab. this is the most notable difference in the two locomotives. The CNJ was leased 4 of them. Numbers 1090 to 1093. If you notice it is locomotive 1090. That is one of those sent to the CNJ. It also may be 1980.
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 3:03:50 PM
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Isn't it funny how these locos were not delivered to Russia just like the same happened to GN's Little Joe electric locos? 
Do we OWE Russia locos?  That a thought that has crossed my mind after I read up on the Little Joe's
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 7:07:48 PM
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Hey Buss ! ;
The reason they weren't shipped was the Russian revolution. the communist takeover of the government. Lenen wasn't going to pay any bills the czar made.
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 7:32:45 PM
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hi frank baldwin built quite a few in 1944 till the cold war kicked off ken
this one was built in 1944 by baldwin
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this might help you ben
russian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_locomotive_class_Ye
polish
http://www.locomotives.com.pl/Freight%20Steam%20Locomotives/Ty246.htm
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 7:42:48 PM
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Ken ; Stallin was recieving them right thro WW2. lend lease.
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Posted - August 21 2011 : 7:53:49 PM
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makes you wonder if it was the worlds longest run for a locomotive with what looks like very little change ken
finnish alco russian decapod
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Posted - August 22 2011 : 10:31:27 AM
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Ken ; I cant read Russian, but that smoke box door sure looks like a American style one.
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Posted - August 22 2011 : 10:36:03 AM
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the plaque on side of all locos pictured is same as this ken
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