Tyco Old Timers
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Topic author: toptrain
Subject: Tyco Old Timers
Posted on: October 28 2010 6:31:36 PM
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Here is a photo of Frankford Station long ago.
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Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: October 28 2010 6:38:02 PM
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neato Love the Tyco loco *wants* 
I has that Matchbox garbage truck in 2 forms 1 is Matchbox other is a plastic Marx one
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: October 28 2010 6:41:05 PM
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nice old timers scenario ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 28 2010 7:01:54 PM
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Here 's my Denver and Rio Grand 4-8-0 
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Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: October 28 2010 7:13:12 PM
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frank snap,but i see you are driving yours ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 28 2010 8:00:01 PM
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Now this is a Tyco General I painted for the ANNA RR. Old # 33. It sit at the center of town. A old photo of a old layout of mine.
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: October 28 2010 8:18:22 PM
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frank when i first joined this site it was my avatar ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 28 2010 8:52:16 PM
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here is the western and Alantic 4-6-0 with my Fancy stack.
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Reply author: VintageHO
Replied on: October 28 2010 9:28:02 PM
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Hi Frank. Here is the original one, 1940's Mantua 8 Ball Mogul...
Carl
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 28 2010 11:07:42 PM
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Carl ; Nice 8 Ball. I had a few. I never had the Bell of the 80's. I held some at shows but never made the purchase. I still have a few 0-4-0 camelbacks. In the larger brass and cast just a pacific. no consolidation or alantic. My son has the mini roller. I never has any of this line that didn't run. All ran, not bad for almost 70 year old locomotives.
frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: October 29 2010 12:14:41 AM
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neato locos guys I want one of those Tyco's 4-6-0s But 
sooooo much money for it at shows 
I think those Rio Grandes are the same loco or similar from the movie Denver & Rio Grande
Reply author: AMC_Gremlin_GT
Replied on: October 29 2010 10:01:33 AM
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neato locos guys I want one of those Tyco's 4-6-0s But Originally posted by microbusss - October 29 2010 : 12:14:41 AM
Gasp! You mean SOME Tycos bring big bucks?
What do these 4-6-0's bring at shows, that you've seen? Are these the metal ones, or plastic? I'll keep an eye out at the Timonium show this Saturday. Jerry
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: October 29 2010 12:38:24 PM
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one guy I went to in this past Feb he had a 4-6-0 for $100 all cause it was the Hooterville Canonball x.x I just want a plain one so I can do up one like the BTTF Not that time machine one The one that pushed the DeLorean 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 29 2010 12:43:09 PM
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here is a look up the layout towards Frankford with Stevensville up on the hill to the rear. All cars on the layout in this photo and old timers. Mostly Tyco-Mantua
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 01 2010 6:47:30 PM
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one guy I went to in this past Feb he had a 4-6-0 for $100 all cause it was the Hooterville Canonball x.x Originally posted by microbusss - October 29 2010 : 12:38:24 PM
If all he had was the locomotive it is the big collector valued thing. The train set boxed is. It is the Petty Coat Junction train set. Especialy one with all its paper work with a like new box and trains looking great. The loco and cars were sold seperatly. 100 is to high for just the loco alone. With the unboxed ATSF and W&A versions going ususlly at 30 to 40. A unboxed cannon ball in good shape should top out at 55 0r 60. That man at the shows end most likely got to take his loco home with him. If enough people handled it missing some parts. But there is always that someeone who for his own reasons would buy it at 100. They are few and far between.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 04 2010 6:10:53 PM
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Tyco old timers goes on.
Here a P&R camelback switcher works the coal mine sideings at Upper Snake Gultch. 
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 04 2010 8:42:55 PM
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Two today.
Here is another of my favorite photos.
The Petty Coat Junction set : The locomotive Cannonball with its passenger train.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 08 2010 11:00:01 AM
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BPS&D passenger train train. Locomotive IRON HORSE. This set was taken from the Movie Iron Horse. The one about the building of the first Transcontinental railroad.
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: November 08 2010 12:58:36 PM
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I seen a 4-6-0 for $130 at train show Also I saw a TycoKit for a 4-4-0 was $45 All I got was this broken one
Reson those 4-6-0s go for so much is cause of either TV or Disney on it Seen lotta CF&W & SF & D passenger cars there Also too much $$$ x.x
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 08 2010 1:38:07 PM
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I seen a 4-6-0 for $130 at train show
Reson those 4-6-0s go for so much is cause of either TV or Disney on it Seen lotta CF&W & SF & D passenger cars there Also too much $$$ x.xOriginally posted by microbusss - November 08 2010 : 12:58:36 PM
Bus dont fret. You have most of it. Should get that one running in a short while. The motor is there , isn't it. Also does the motor turn with power. Make sure you take it out before you attempt to run the motor. put a drop of oil on both shaft ends first, and turn armiture by hand to make sure it moves freely before applying power.
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 08 2010 1:47:51 PM
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Bus : I see a wire coming out of the boiler. To me it looks like a motor is there. you need a cab, bell, smoke stack, and a tender fuel insert..
frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: November 08 2010 2:23:10 PM
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also the front door on the boiler is missing too
What KIND of oil should I use on locos?
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 08 2010 3:09:00 PM
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also the front door on the boiler is missing too
What KIND of oil should I use on locos?Originally posted by microbusss - November 08 2010 : 2:23:10 PM
The smoke box front and the little top to the headlight are hard to get.
Reply author: 35Rem
Replied on: November 08 2010 5:25:40 PM
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Really nice stuff there, guys!
Reply author: DaCheez
Replied on: November 08 2010 11:43:20 PM
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Some nice shots here Frank. I've been wanting to make a mini layout for a while now. I bet an old time layout would be fun. Those Tyco 1800's steamers and passenger cars have such an awesome, nostalgic vibe. Now all I need to do is find some
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 09 2010 11:37:42 AM
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HERE is a ATSF passenger train
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 19 2010 12:26:24 PM
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Here is a General I painted for the CRR of NJ. This is the Locomotive ESSEX #19.
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Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: November 19 2010 1:02:07 PM
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well the only other Old Time locos I has are plastic wall hangings & that doesn't count
btw? What DO C & FW & BPS & D mean anyway? 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 22 2010 6:30:51 PM
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Another General. Western and Alantic RR
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 03 2010 1:34:43 PM
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TYCO old time 4-8-0 Central Pacific with passenger train.
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 03 2010 2:17:31 PM
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Eight trains at Frankford.
Reply author: Vanderbilt
Replied on: December 03 2010 5:35:23 PM
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^^^^^ All I can say is just - WOW!
(reminds me of the cover on an old Great World of Model Railroading mag)
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 03 2010 6:01:23 PM
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Realy all that happned to the photo was I kept on trying to get a bad photo to look good that I totaly wrecked it. To save it I used Max saturation and that is the results.
Here is a better photo of the UP train alongside a BPS&D train to it's left and a ATSF train coning up on it's right side.
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Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 14 2010 11:35:23 AM
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well the only other Old Time locos I has are plastic wall hangings & that doesn't count
btw? What DO C & FW & BPS & D mean anyway?Originally posted by microbusss - November 19 2010 : 1:02:07 PM
Hey Buss: C&FW - Cincinnati, and Fort Worth RR
BPS&D -Buffalo Pass, Scaloplock, and Defiance RR
The other hard one is.
DSP&PRR - Denver, South Park, and Pacific RR.
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: December 14 2010 6:35:57 PM
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thanks toptrain The DSP&PRR THAT one I knew already Cause I likes Colorado Narrow Gauge stuff
& thanks for posting that one complete Western & Atlantic loco Least I knows what mine is suppsed to look like
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 14 2010 7:51:33 PM
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My Christmas Trains on the Layout. A look back on the storage tracks Behind the main office and Museum. 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 28 2010 10:08:31 PM
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Yard photo. Six passenger trains. Left to right. Western and Atlantic, Cincinatti and Fort Worth, Santa Fe and Disneyland, Pennnsylvania RR, Baltimore and Ohio, and the ATSF.
Reply author: RDC1
Replied on: December 28 2010 10:23:27 PM
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With collections like this and others that I see on this board, I will NEVER understand the prejudice against Tyco trains. Who started that BS anyway?
~ Dave
Reply author: AMC_Gremlin_GT
Replied on: December 28 2010 10:28:08 PM
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With collections like this and others that I see on this board, I will NEVER understand the prejudice against Tyco trains. Who started that BS anyway?
~ DaveOriginally posted by RDC1 - December 28 2010 : 10:23:27 PM
Well, it's like the difference between cut glass collectors and crystal collectors. they both look pretty, but the crystal is more expensive and has a nice ring to it. Glass is glass. Tyco is Tyco. People like it, but it will never be in the same catagory as other HO jewels. The fun is there, but the quality sometimes lacks. It's all in what you like, really. And can afford.
Jerry
Reply author: RDC1
Replied on: December 28 2010 10:44:15 PM
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I've been at this a long time and have had trains big and small, expensive and not, made in the USA, China, Germany, Yugoslavia, you name it ... I actually like it all. I guess I just don't like it when snobby people look down on me for having fun my way 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 03 2011 10:16:07 AM
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Dave ; Jerry knows. We save more memories than trains. The train reminds us of a certain date time and who was there.
frank
Reply author: RDC1
Replied on: January 03 2011 7:41:03 PM
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Dave ; Jerry knows. We save more memories than trains. The train reminds us of a certain date time and who was there.
frankOriginally posted by toptrain - January 03 2011 : 10:16:07 AM
Yes, exactly!
I don't know why, but the hatred toward Tyco has been bothering me lately. Maybe because I'm about to breath new life into my Chattanooga GP20 and I'm excited about it. I found some posts on other forums, but the one below kind of gave me the real scoop. Someone had asked "What's wrong with Tyco?" on a forum geared toward the modeling crowd. Some of the responses were the typical "junk ... toys" ... other responses were downright venomous some and others were more open minded. It seems to me that those who are into what they call "fine modeling" are the least impressed with Tyco and then others just seem to "follow the crowd at chow time" and repeat the sentiment because it's popular. For me, it's the opposite. While I respect and appreciate their craft and attention to detail, I'd rather model a little bit but focus on running the trains, have as much fun as possible, let the imagination run wild and of course, let the memories come running back. Here's the link ~ Dave:
http://www.modelgeeks.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/rail/5687/What-s-wrong-with-Tyco
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 05 2011 10:34:54 AM
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* Dave pay no attention to loudmouths. They will always be there. There are forums where if you say anything about not liking or not using DCC. their goon squads attack you. It starts with them trying to convert you. All you need to say is " My Non DCC Layout" in naming your post. It attracts them like flies to whatever attracts them. The title has nothing to do with running DCC, but they come anyway looking for converts. They say things like " It's cheaper in the long run". You can do so much more. The sound is superior to anything else.
* I run my trains in my home. My wife rules here. Even if I had sound I could never turn it up to where you could appreciate it. So sound is out. I have always block wired my layouts and DCC separate control is way, way, way more expensive. My 400 + powered units and multiple switches make a change to expensive. Even their choice of track makes no sense to me. I tried running on nickel silver and the smaller code 86 on whatever it is. Too much gouie black stuff build up. It is harder to remove than what brass build up is. Just running trains on brass seems to keep it clean. The black seems to come from the plastic wheels. So it must be causing them to wear out, or kind of melt. Nickel Silver is not as good a conductor as brass so higher resistance, and power loss is a problem. Many more derailments with the small code track. To many of my cherished older locomotives cant run on the smaller track. DCC just doesn't work for me. I use brass track on my layout that is over 40 years old. My trains run. I have no problem. At 40 to 50 dollars a chip times 400 that is a lot of money. That does not cover DCCing my layout or rolling stock. Also you have to remember the amunt of work and time needed to do the work. Most clubs now demand everything that runs on their layouts to have metal wheels. That is even more added expense. 2,000 cars converted to metal wheels. How is this cheeper in the long run? We both turn on the power and run our trains. That is enough for me.
* Like I said the goon squad attacked. Started arguments and had their friends close the thread because of the controversy. You must remember it is always them the DCCers coming into a non DCC thread that starts the trouble. For them it is convert or we will get rid of you. Very unfriendly. For DC modelers there are forums out there that you cannot be a part of.
Reply author: spiderj76
Replied on: January 05 2011 11:33:03 AM
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I don't know why, but the hatred toward Tyco has been bothering me lately. Maybe because I'm about to breath new life into my Chattanooga GP20 and I'm excited about it. I found some posts on other forums, but the one below kind of gave me the real scoop. Someone had asked "What's wrong with Tyco?" on a forum geared toward the modeling crowd. Some of the responses were the typical "junk ... toys" ... other responses were downright venomous some and others were more open minded. It seems to me that those who are into what they call "fine modeling" are the least impressed with Tyco and then others just seem to "follow the crowd at chow time" and repeat the sentiment because it's popular. Originally posted by RDC1 - January 03 2011 : 7:41:03 PM
That hatred is nothing new.... but to be honest, I found most of the responses on the link you provided to be pretty well-intentioned and reasoned... especially considering its age. So, I'll chip in my $0.03 as a card-carrying NMRA member who has won contests and knows all about "scale" and "prototypical" "railroad modeling": Tyco... IS... JUNK. There, I said it. There is little they made from 1973-onward that can be classified as much better. Even some of the older stuff wasn't as good as many old-timers pretend it was.
That said, take look at my own site and contributions here, and you'll soon see that "one man's junk is another man's treasure". I love my Tycos. There's a certain charm and purpose to them... as well as many baffling, inexplicable idiosyncrasies and abundant mystery. As well as a few diamonds in the rough. The same arguments that Lionel apologists go apoplectic to justify, apply to collecting and enjoying Tyco (or any other "garbage" HO, and by today's rationale anything pre-1980 may as well be garbage). And I'm no Lionel apologist.
What you must remember is Model Railroading is supremely multifaceted... and despite what the modern bloviators of Model Railroader Magazine tell you as they encourage a second mortgage for your RTR-only-stocked outbuilding empire, there is no right or wrong way to do it. To tweak what MR once used to say, Model Railroading Is (supposed to be) FUN!
So. What's wrong with Tyco? Nothing that Lionel wasn't guilty of at one time or another, aside from the inherent comparative fragility of HO vs. O scale. Lionel trains are revered by one crowd... and summarily abhorred by the same group that dismisses Tyco. It's all relative to priorities.
An interesting sentiment was shared multiple times on that thread: "How many people were turned off of model trains because of Tyco's junk"? A fair question: those POS PowerTorque engines almost ruined it for me, because my parents tired of buying replacements. My first Athearn was nothing short of a revelation and a savior. But Tyco also made the hobby accessible in its day, and created some measurable magic that was worth preserving, so that sword cuts both ways.
DC vs. DCC; Proto:87 vs. traditional HO; Brass vs. Nickel-Silver; Freelance vs. Prototypical; RTR vs Roll-your-own; Scratchbuild vs. Shake-the-box; Build-it-yourself vs. Pre-built-at-3x-the-price; Sound vs. Silent; HO vs. O vs. N vs. S vs... get the picture? The camps and arguments in model railroading are as endless as in they are passionate and justified - just like the automotive hobby.
That's a good analogy: Model Railroading is just one big eternal "Ford vs Chevy (vs Mopar vs AMC vs Europe vs Japan, etc)" debate. You eventually forge a preference and stick to what you enjoy, but hopefully grow and become more knowledgeable and respectable while keeping an open mind. So, just as a respectable "diehard Ford guy" can appreciate certain GMs (and vice versa), you realize that everything has its place and there's nothing really "wrong" with any of it. Besides, I doubt there are many Ferrari enthusiasts who don't secretly harbor a misguided affection for that first POS Vega or Falcon or Rambler or Dart or whatever abhorrent crapcan barely got them from point A to B when they first started driving - even if they won't dare admit it publicly.
So do what you like, and forget about the other crowds. Or participate in both as I do, and just recognize the rules for membership in either side.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 05 2011 11:52:34 AM
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Tony : I dont know what works for other people. They should do what makes them happy. That is what a hobby is about. Just at times it seems that some peoples hobby is throwing stones at someone elses.
frank
Reply author: RDC1
Replied on: January 05 2011 12:39:48 PM
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Frank yeah, I've already had the bum's rush out of a forum because I won't get into DCC, mostly because of the cost and 2nd, I've had enough high technology. I've worked on the electronics for B-52, B1 & B-2 bombers; F-15, F-16, FA-18, SH-3 and SH-60 aircraft; MK-48, MK-54 and CBASS torpedoes; TOW, AMRAAM, AIM-9X and Javelin missiles. I like DC trains & block wiring because it's simple. I'm also into old bicycles. My newest bike is a 1963 Schwinn Tiger. Simplicity gives me a breather and I have nothing to prove with my trains. I just want to enjoy them.
I prefer brass too and I should have kept more than I did. I don't do the lower code track either ... why cause myself headaches when all I want is my trains to run? I think the gunk that appears on nickel silver track might have something to do with the copper and zinc in the alloy. It's a good thing that there is no real silver in it!
~ Dave
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 05 2011 1:00:49 PM
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Dave ; We will just have to keep stumbling through life using our old ways and being happy for it.
frank
Reply author: RDC1
Replied on: January 05 2011 1:47:15 PM
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Dave ; We will just have to keep stumbling through life using our old ways and being happy for it.
frankOriginally posted by toptrain - January 05 2011 : 1:00:49 PM
To the good ol' days!
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 24 2011 3:38:08 PM
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* One of my favorites, naa all are my favorites, but this one I'll post a photo of now is the Denver Rio Grande 4-8-0.
frank
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: January 24 2011 4:00:21 PM
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hey frank its also mine i used that as my avatar when i first joined this site,it was also my first american loco ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 08 2011 12:54:47 PM
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The Cental Pacific passengr set. Went to catfordken.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 08 2011 12:56:39 PM
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The Western Atlantic Railroad Passenger set. General with combine and coach. went to catfordken.
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: February 08 2011 5:05:12 PM
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yummy nice set frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 08 2011 5:49:45 PM
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yummy nice set frank Originally posted by catfordken - February 08 2011 : 5:05:12 PM
Well there is the Britannia.
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: February 08 2011 5:51:30 PM
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yummy nice set frank Originally posted by catfordken - February 08 2011 : 5:05:12 PM
Well there is the Britannia.Originally posted by toptrain - February 08 2011 : 5:49:45 PM
done and dusted
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 10 2011 5:58:33 PM
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Here is a photo i took last Dec 14th of my My 4-8-0s in Roundhouse stalls.
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: February 10 2011 6:29:21 PM
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not to critisize(sp) but that last loco on the far right has it's 3 upside down
Plus every single one of those engines at shows goes for $100 or more
Reply author: AMC_Gremlin_GT
Replied on: February 10 2011 6:40:34 PM
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Plus every single one of those engines at shows goes for $100 or moreOriginally posted by microbusss - February 10 2011 : 6:29:21 PM
Good thing I got mine at an auction for $24, then. Been 6+ years ago, at least. Can't say I've looked at them at the local shows, I'll do so on Saturday, just to see what they're selling for around Virginia.
Jerry
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 13 2011 10:32:56 AM
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Plus every single one of those engines at shows goes for $100 or moreOriginally posted by microbusss - February 10 2011 : 6:29:21 PM
Hey Buss ; Dont you that certain languages read from left to right and some right to left. Maybe it is from one of those right to left countries. Someday I'll turn it around. Maybe !
frank
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: February 13 2011 10:41:16 AM
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frank its an aussie ken
Reply author: AMC_Gremlin_GT
Replied on: February 13 2011 12:05:07 PM
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Plus every single one of those engines at shows goes for $100 or moreOriginally posted by microbusss - February 10 2011 : 6:29:21 PM
Good thing I got mine at an auction for $24, then. Been 6+ years ago, at least.
JerryOriginally posted by AMC_Gremlin_GT - February 10 2011 : 6:40:34 PM
Well, I found THREE of them at the show yesterday, two Western and Atlantics, and one other General, from $60-85, so under the 100 dollar mark. Didn't buy any of them, though.
Jerry
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: February 13 2011 1:21:20 PM
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i have learnt one thing in life and that is those who are impatient,pay,sometimes dearly,it pays to be patient,and remember when someone says its rare three pop upken
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: February 13 2011 1:26:30 PM
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hey AMC you have seen the 4-6-0 pic I posted in here that I got from the last train show?
That I need parts for to fix it up 
But I will look for parts again like that on the 26th
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 17 2011 11:44:02 AM
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Here is a photo from a photo. It is here to show a repainted Tyco General. The decals used with Champ.
Reply author: spiderj76
Replied on: February 17 2011 1:16:40 PM
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I really love the look of those Generals. Amazingly I haven't landed one yet, what an egregious offense. Will have to rectify this sometime...
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: February 20 2011 1:40:33 PM
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Another General Missouri Pacific RR
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 09 2011 10:05:06 AM
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Here is a Tyco 4-6-0 I got at a train show last sunday. I haven't seen it listed anywhere. It is a B&O. Basicly black with a red cab. A wood burning Rogers. I have replaced the missing handrails so a new photo will replace this one soon.
frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: March 09 2011 12:17:54 PM
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I finally got a Tyco General in V&T colors Won't post it here Cause most have seen it already
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: March 09 2011 12:30:44 PM
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hi frank mantua made one in those b&o colours ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 09 2011 8:43:53 PM
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hi frank mantua made one in those b&o colours ken Originally posted by catfordken - March 09 2011 : 12:30:44 PM
Ken I have the blue one. This black one has a factory painted tender. Was this tender out of the factory following a 4-6-0, 4-8-0, 2-6-0, or 2-6-6-2. all used this tender. Even a standard 0-4-0 switcher used this tender. It was called the Pony.
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 10 2011 10:31:09 AM
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* Decorating old time locomotives. Little six Ken, asked me to look up some stuff. It is good info for anyone redoing, painting and lettering old time locos.
* For decorating old time 4-4-0s look at Microscale. 87-1170. They are made for civil war era locomotives of the US military Railroad. This will make a highly decorated old timer. All you need do is instead of USMRR place ATSF or you road name on the tender.
* For a less decorated loco look to 87-1166. It is for PRR steam locos. All necessary striping for tenders to make a double striped pin striping of the tender. Again place your ATSF or whatever lettering in center.
* Striping and ornaments of another type are available in 87-1168. also made by Microscale is a 1860 Western Atlantic set for old time locos.
* Also if you can find them Champ had decal sets for the Union pacific Jupiter # 60, and the Central Pacific # 119. The locos photoed at the joining of the first transcontinental railroad
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 16 2011 10:16:17 AM
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Another look at the B&O 4-6-0. This time with new handrails installed. I have never seen this one listed anywhere. It is made of all Factory painted parts.
Frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: March 16 2011 2:17:03 PM
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well ok I'll show my $40 purchase 
This loco pulls great & it runs too Do have the original box it came in too
Did get a V&T Pocher passenger coach & flatcar also by Pocher but has Rivarossi trucks after show at a LHS
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 16 2011 2:53:41 PM
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Hey Buss ! Very nice General. Looks like new.
frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: March 16 2011 4:41:57 PM
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ty Frank That's cause it IS new They guy I bought it fromsaid another guy would buy these new & NEVER run them Well I ran mine for a while set up a straight track of E-Z track & it pulled 3 Tyco Amtrak lighted combines 2 Frosted Flakes cars a V&T Pocher old time passenger coach flatcar with Rivarossi trucks Without stalling!
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 16 2011 4:46:53 PM
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ty Frank That's cause it IS new They guy I bought it fromsaid another guy would buy these new & NEVER run them Originally posted by microbusss - March 16 2011 : 4:41:57 PM
Hey Buss ; You are really have some fun there. Good for you. Sis you get the parts yet for your Tyco 4-6-0.
Frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 31 2011 10:57:29 AM
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So has anyone out there got any info on the Black B&O 4-6-0. Photos are posted on 3-9 2011 and 3-16-2011.
frank
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: March 31 2011 12:25:16 PM
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hi frank the more i look at this item the more i think its a marriage(2 locos put together) see the red box pennsy,same number(3)
could the tender have had pennsy removed and b&o replaced ken
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: March 31 2011 4:30:07 PM
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hi frank the more i look at this item the more i think its a marriage(2 locos put together) see the red box pennsy,same number(3)
could the tender have had pennsy removed and b&o replaced kenOriginally posted by catfordken - March 31 2011 : 12:25:16 PM
Ken ; Yours is a stock Pennsy. Is my tender from another loco like the Meaddowood lumber 4-6-0. That is the question. Was there a Black B&O 4-8-0, 2-6-6-2, or 0-4-0 Pony. If so that is where the tender could have come from.
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: July 28 2011 11:50:59 AM
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* A different Santa Fe Mantua paint skeem. On a 4-8-0 chassie.
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 24 2012 3:19:32 PM
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** I haven't been here for awile. Thanks to Mustangs and trains ( Sean ) I have somemore I can post. First a US Military railroad Blue set engine. This one has a standard wood burning stack. It was large enough for Tyco's smoke unit. Not like the ones in all the photos.
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 25 2012 11:20:09 AM
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Here is the US Milatary general with other smoke stack.
toptrain1
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: September 25 2012 12:26:03 PM
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you get the parts yet for your Tyco 4-6-0?
No I didn't Can't find any
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 26 2012 09:16:14 AM
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A old time box car Western and Atlantic. This is a newer one, with plactic trucks and no number.
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 26 2012 09:18:05 AM
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Here is another Western Atlantic box car. This one is the old one with metal trucks and the number 158. this is a factory lettered car.
toptrain1
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: September 26 2012 10:09:10 AM
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Hey Toptrain I'd like to see that W&A boxcar next to a HUGE modern boxcar
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 26 2012 10:54:27 AM
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Well Buss. Copy and print the photo. shrink it to a workable size for a photo of a large box car. Cut out the W&A box car and place it on top of the large photo and scan it.
* Either that or get one like mine and place it next to a large box car and take a photo.
frank
Reply author: NickelPlate759
Replied on: September 26 2012 1:08:48 PM
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Originally posted by toptrain - September 26 2012 : 09:18:05 AM
Frank, is that car trying to couple with itself? Looks painful.
Reply author: zebrails
Replied on: September 26 2012 2:09:13 PM
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Originally posted by toptrain - September 26 2012 : 09:18:05 AM
Frank, is that car trying to couple with itself? Looks painful.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759 - September 26 2012 : 1:08:48 PM
It seems to be... Self Centered!
Jumping in, I've noticed that the 4-8-0's have two different places for the blind driver... Some have the last driver, some have the third driver.
What's the evolving reason, or are they errors?
John
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 26 2012 5:34:08 PM
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* Answere is "Ongoing testing and evaluation of principles and practices of model railroading ".
toptrain
Reply author: caboose 1
Replied on: September 26 2012 6:11:16 PM
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A old time box car Western and Atlantic. This is a newer one, with plactic trucks and no number.
toptrain1
Originally posted by toptrain - September 26 2012 : 09:16:14 AM
Did the older ones have metal trucks??....never mind....I read down a little further...I guess they did
Reply author: caboose 1
Replied on: September 26 2012 6:16:08 PM
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The std low end 10 wheeler
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: September 26 2012 7:42:36 PM
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good idea, Frank But I don't have one Looking for one tho
I get one I'll pose it next to the 89ft boxcars I have
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: September 26 2012 7:50:36 PM
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Well guys....I guess I should add something to this posting too!
I give you the B&O's "Director General"
I got one other thats being painted and I traded one to Ken so.....BUT, I have another 4-4-0 thats from Rivarossi as well thats the William Mason #25
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 27 2012 07:28:09 AM
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* That look's like a later General that was released by Mantua just before it became Mantua Classics. They came in boxes as brass locomotives did. Big ones ! Bachmann and Braodway limited I guess liked the packaging and use it on there better locomotives. Nobody packaged there locomotives like that untill Mantua did, except for brass models.
* I guess the better packaging does protecting the locomotive better. As seen it doesn't mean there is a good engine in the box. You still have to buy one and see for yourself.
* John it looks like you took flash photos of the model. The lettering is washed out by the flash. Any chance of a time laps photo without flash.
frank
Reply author: Jim
Replied on: September 27 2012 5:00:46 PM
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Well I guess Ill add to this thread, here is my Tyco old tymer, a 4-8-0 that I picked up for about $25 at a local train store, ues it was second hand used but I didn't care, I like the little guy and plan to use it as part of my rail road for either a nostalgic train or a light duty hauler/MOW train...
Ill update with a better pic shortly when I am finished running in another train at the moment!
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: September 27 2012 10:56:48 PM
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* That look's like a later General that was released by Mantua just before it became Mantua Classics. They came in boxes as brass locomotives did. Big ones ! Bachmann and Braodway limited I guess liked the packaging and use it on there better locomotives. Nobody packaged there locomotives like that untill Mantua did, except for brass models.
* I guess the better packaging does protecting the locomotive better. As seen it doesn't mean there is a good engine in the box. You still have to buy one and see for yourself.
* John it looks like you took flash photos of the model. The lettering is washed out by the flash. Any chance of a time laps photo without flash.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - September 27 2012 : 07:28:09 AM
Frank,
Nope I bought that locomotive BRAND NEW in a TYCO box! Was a year or so, before TYCO was gone out of the train business! I had the box, but wound up loosing it over the years! I got that back in I believe 1982/83.....
ALTHO, Mantua did make one just like it in the early to mid 1990's.....
EDIT:
Ohhh and I forgot to mention it had NO working headlight, I believe the Mantua's had working headlights!
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: September 27 2012 11:02:36 PM
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I forgot I had the following:
I'm sorry for the poor pictures! These were taken about 10-11 years ago!
But its a 4-6-0, TYCO that I got as a gift, from my old hobby shop partner Gary Baer, for "Little Town Toys & Trains" that was in my home town in Pennsylvania.....it was a TYCO modsel he had 30 years before handing it to me as a 13 or 14th birthday gift! When I got it, it wasn't painted into anything but looks GREAT as the #1366 for the B&O from the B&O Power book....
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 28 2012 07:15:51 AM
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Hey John ! Great ten wheeler ! Old Russian Iron boiler sheeting. Plain black everything else. With bright gold lettering, makes a good looking locomotive.
frank
edit : text and photo
For you John a photo of a IHC B&O 4-4-0 from 2004 that I had. Gone now.
frank
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: September 28 2012 11:15:08 AM
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Frank, I got that SAME locomotive, only with Rivarossi on it! Thats the B&O's 4-4-0 "William Mason"
See below:
I have re-done the color of the drivers to match the remaining "Maroon" as I just could not handle that miss matched paint (The driver centers are casted in color, and not painted like the rest of the locomotive is!)
Plus, I added the lost dome, you see missing as well.....On yours Frank, was the domes plastic or brass? Mine are brass, thats been painted! The one you see is factory added the one missing I found in my parts bins to add to the locomotive but had to paint it to match the other one but it all looks GREAT now!
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 28 2012 12:21:03 PM
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* Back to Tyco !
I started with some Tyco old time cars here is some more.
A Central pcific Box Car. The old one with metal trucks and a factory number.
*Moving along a companion car for the box car. A Central Pacific Horse Car. Also a older one which can be told by its company number.
*Here is what may be a first for tyco- Mantua. A additional number " X 62 " . I think this is the first time Tyco has dated a model train car .
Continueing. Keeping to the CP mode. A CP Water Car. Again the older one with metal trucks and a number. Even the water car name.
Rolling along. A CP low side gondola car. Again a old numbered car.
Reply author: cadetpwr
Replied on: September 30 2012 09:12:25 AM
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Great pics guys, makes me want to find all the old timers I can! Along with older freight cars and wild west buildings. Mike
Reply author: Islanderh93
Replied on: October 06 2012 10:50:37 PM
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[quote]I seen a 4-6-0 for $130 at train show Also I saw a TycoKit for a 4-4-0 was $45 All I got was this broken one
Yeah, but I'm sure you could customize it with a custom cab. I have no modeling skill, but I think I'd try just making a cab. I've seen hundreds of these locomotives in my hunts, and I find them to be "dime a dozen" in terms of uniqueness. Make this one unique; make a backstory to explain a custom cab!
In the meantime, ya'll want me to look for any of these in my travels?
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: October 06 2012 11:09:07 PM
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In the meantime, ya'll want me to look for any of these in my travels?
YES!! I want the Hooterville Cannonball version IF it cheap enuff
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 07 2012 8:14:36 PM
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The Denver Rio Grand box car
toptrain
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 08 2012 09:50:52 AM
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Delaware Lackawanna and Western boxcar
Reply author: Islanderh93
Replied on: October 08 2012 1:18:36 PM
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I seen a 4-6-0 for $130 at train show /tyco/forum/uploaded/microbusss/20101108125637_caboose 526.jpg
Reson those 4-6-0s go for so much is cause of either TV or Disney on it Seen lotta CF&W & SF & D passenger cars there Also too much $$$ x.x
Originally posted by microbusss - November 08 2010 : 12:58:36 PM
Did you ever get that cab? I found one on Ebay here while I was looking for something else:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-SCALE-MANTUA-TYCO-4-6-0-RODGERS-CAB-/221135322877?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item337cb13efd
It should at least be the right color, right?
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 18 2012 10:57:14 AM
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CNJ box car #769
toptrain1
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: October 18 2012 11:14:38 AM
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oooo I wants the D&RGW one
No I didn't Islanderh93 Loco still in pieces
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 19 2012 12:08:44 PM
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I think that is the only DRGW old time box I got.
toptrain
Reply author: Redneck Justin
Replied on: October 19 2012 1:15:38 PM
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Time I share a few:
The Mastadon:
W&A 4-6-0:
ATSF 4-6-0(Wants the ES Marsh Next!!)
Mantua Coach:
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 19 2012 5:59:23 PM
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A good group of 19th century locomotives. GO tyco.
toptrain
Reply author: Redneck Justin
Replied on: October 20 2012 5:03:32 PM
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Gotta show off my 2 new 36' ATSF coaches soon.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: October 20 2012 9:34:05 PM
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Do you have the combine also.
frank
Reply author: Redneck Justin
Replied on: October 20 2012 9:34:34 PM
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No sir. I wish.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 06 2012 4:19:51 PM
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It is that time of year when so many passenger trains from all over the country come to Bergen Point. They come in there old time trains. There locomotives fill the Frankford roundhouse. The Passenger cars the yards.
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 06 2012 4:52:36 PM
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A Panorama view
toptrain
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: November 06 2012 5:51:12 PM
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*jealous* Also I do want that Hooterville Cannonball loco someday
*drooools lots*
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 06 2012 7:30:41 PM
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A fifth photo
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: November 14 2012 09:43:17 AM
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Exit , entry, service, and stroage tracks. I do know that all the engine seen in these photos are not Tyco old timers, but of the 50 engines on this layout right now, 34 are Tyco-Mantua, of the 34, 32 are old timers.
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 09 2012 07:49:50 AM
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Show casing today, Tycos' 1860 raidial roof passenger cars. These are Pennsylvania Railroad cars.
toptrain1
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:48:00 AM
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*** Time to start posting Tyco old time freight cars. These are all factory painted cars by Tyco-Mantua. Not all. Others were done.
box car Central Pacific Railroad.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:49:57 AM
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Box car Denver Rio-Grand Western.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:50:57 AM
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Box car, Milwaukee Road.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:52:34 AM
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Box car Pennsylvania Railroad.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:53:47 AM
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Box car western and Atlantic Railroad.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:55:20 AM
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Gondola , Central Pacific RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:56:27 AM
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Gondola with log load, Denver and Rio-Grand Western RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 07:59:15 AM
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gondola, Western and Atlantic RR. with cable load.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:00:57 AM
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Gondola, Western and Atlantic RR, with cable load , green.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:02:38 AM
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Horse car, Central Pacific RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:03:47 AM
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Horse car, Denver Rio-Grand Western RR. 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:04:57 AM
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Horse car, Pennsylvania RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:05:54 AM
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Horse Car, Western and Atlantic RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:07:14 AM
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Water car, Denver and Rio-Grand Western RR.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 17 2013 08:08:09 AM
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Water Car Pennsylvania RR.
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: May 19 2013 12:57:44 AM
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Are all of the above real Tyco cars (red or brown box era?), or perhaps Mantua too? I never knew there were so many road nmaes offered. I can only think of brown box W&A cars, and the r/w/b Sof76 set.
Sam
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 19 2013 08:00:14 AM
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Sam Hi. I think of Mantua and Tyco as the same company. All the cars I have posted, and there are others, were made by them. Most cars and locos made only said Mantua on the bottom. On others you could find both the Mantua and Tyco name there. This post is just about the old timers 1860 and 1880 style of cars and locos. When you go to HOseeker, or Tony Cooks sites, and look through the catalogs there, you find many road names. I hope you enjoy the photos.
Frank
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: May 19 2013 11:21:05 AM
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Frank,
Did you add these reels as a load, or did the car come that way? It's a really interesting idea. I just wonder if it looks like Tyco/Mantua modified the mold for the reels, or did they mold them as normal and cut them to fit?
I was at an EMD open house in around 1985 and got to see the EMD HO club layout on a tour. The only thing I clearly remember is there was a large diesel shop area (go figure), and there was an old timer Tyco gondola like this with an Athearn dummy GP truck as a load. After that my OEM Tyco water tanks or whatever that round load was would be lost forever and the dummy GP truck took its place.
Sam
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gondola, Western and Atlantic RR. with cable load.
Originally posted by toptrain - May 17 2013 : 07:59:15 AM
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 19 2013 12:48:49 PM
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I think they were a part of a longer load for a 60 foot tyco flat car.
frank
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: May 19 2013 1:01:00 PM
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real cool I wants the Rio Grande cars & I gotta find some in V&T
With abit of modification I'll bet you could make the RG cars into HOn3
Reply author: catfordken
Replied on: May 19 2013 1:24:27 PM
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ben first look right at the load and then look left the answer is in the picture ken
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: May 19 2013 5:45:10 PM
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it was just a idea hehe
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: May 24 2013 6:58:16 PM
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Is the D in SF&D for Disney? Is that what makes these "Disney" cars? Didn't Tyco also have regular Santa Fe cars, or maybe I'm only thinking of these?
Sam
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: May 24 2013 7:34:35 PM
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Is the D in SF&D for Disney? Is that what makes these "Disney" cars? Didn't Tyco also have regular Santa Fe cars, or maybe I'm only thinking of these?
Sam
Originally posted by newhudson - May 24 2013 : 6:58:16 PM
Actually SF&D was for Santa Fe & Disneyland Railroad
Which was from 1953 to 1974
So now its just called The Disneyland Railroad
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: May 28 2013 12:22:27 PM
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Two other 1860 freight cars. Disney cars.
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: June 09 2013 12:10:55 AM
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I don't like to remove things from boxes much, but here's one from the red box era. T318E:396 BPS&D "platform car" with figures.
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: June 09 2013 12:13:34 AM
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I haven't seen these yet either. Maybe they're not "true" old timers either, since there Sof76 cars. I thought there were three of them, but maybe the coach is just a double in the set.
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: June 09 2013 12:20:37 AM
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Santa Fe 4-6-0.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: June 10 2013 10:03:13 AM
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I don't like to remove things from boxes much, but here's one from the red box era. T318E:396 BPS&D "platform car" with figures.
Originally posted by newhudson - June 09 2013 : 12:10:55 AM
* Nice picture of the Disney Land set's old time gondola with load and original figures. Looks like it never got played with.
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: June 10 2013 12:03:32 PM
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Michelob passenger car 
This goes to a set but it was $6 at a train show
So I'm looking for the rest
Also after watching Walt Disney's The Great Locomotive Chase I want the General & Texas now hehe
I'd of posted my V&T General but I did already on page 2
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: June 15 2013 08:49:00 AM
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My Tyco General done for the CNJ #19 the locomotive "ESSEX".
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: June 15 2013 8:19:38 PM
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Toptrain,
Is that the OEM drive shaft between the tender and loco? If not, what did you use to make one? The one in this pic looks like it's an odd shape.
Sam
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: June 16 2013 03:24:06 AM
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Sam,
I'm not Frank, BUT, I can answer your question on the drive shaft, its not OEM, BUT to make one you need Model Airplane fuel line, tubing, the small stuff.....
How many loco's you have like the General with the shaft between engine, and tender?
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: June 17 2013 11:00:58 AM
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John to Sam,
I'm not Frank, BUT, I can answer your question on the drive shaft, its not OEM, BUT to make one you need Model Airplane fuel line, tubing, the small stuff.....
How many loco's you have like the General with the shaft between engine, and tender?
Originally posted by EM-1 - June 16 2013 : 03:24:06 AM
John : I don't know exactly. I have about 8 tyco generals running, maybe more. 3 or so AHM 4-4-0's, A pair at least of AHM Pocher 2-4-0, 2 Rivarossi 2-8-0s, 2 old brass 4-4-0s.
and 2 or 3 Bachmann 4-4-0. I think that is it.
frank
Reply author: newhudson
Replied on: June 17 2013 7:33:48 PM
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I may have deleted this picture, and I don't know how to get it from an earlier post. If you go here:
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13284
Then scroll down a bit. I have two of these Rivarossi 2-4-0's that have motors in the tenders, but both are missing the drive shaft to the shaft in the loco.
Sam
Reply author: RBNicholson
Replied on: September 20 2013 08:14:33 AM
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quote:
I may have deleted this picture, and I don't know how to get it from an earlier post. If you go here:
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13284
Then scroll down a bit. I have two of these Rivarossi 2-4-0's that have motors in the tenders, but both are missing the drive shaft to the shaft in the loco.
Sam
Originally posted by newhudson - June 17 2013 : 7:33:48 PM
My wandering keyboard fingers committed me to a J.W.Bowker last June without - you guessed it - no drive shaft. I madeone by threading a pop rivet nail 2-56 , placing it inside a 3/32" brass tube, and turning a 2-56 screw on each end and turning them tight against the brass tube to lock them in place. I had to be careful to get the length right, but it works like a charm. On another note, I did find the drive shaft for a long departed 1960 Mantua General that I would like to find a locomotive for.
I've been trying to rewire a Bachmann Jupitor old time 4-4-0 for all wheel pickup. It's a trial and error operation, but it will work when I get it done, although not exactly a Harold Minkowitz (Iknow I got that wrong) operation. His was successful the first time (I think!)
RBNicholson
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: September 20 2013 08:37:22 AM
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quote:
Toptrain,
Is that the OEM drive shaft between the tender and loco? If not, what did you use to make one? The one in this pic looks like it's an odd shape.
Sam
Originally posted by newhudson - June 15 2013 : 8:19:38 PM
sam It is just plastic tubing.
frank
Reply author: RBNicholson
Replied on: September 21 2013 10:28:23 AM
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quote:
Toptrain,
Is that the OEM drive shaft between the tender and loco? If not, what did you use to make one? The one in this pic looks like it's an odd shape.
Sam
Originally posted by newhudson - June 15 2013 : 8:19:38 PM
sam It is just plastic tubing.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - September 20 2013 : 08:37:22 AM
Incidentally, After I drilled out the drive shaft coupling on the motor end of my Bachmann Jupitor in an unsuccessful "trial and error" move, I restored it by drilling it out for a 1/16" piece of plastic tubing, then drilling that out for a press fit on the motor shaft. I don't remember the drill size, or maybe I didn't drill it at all, but it worked, and I'm able to adjust the socket to fit the drive shaft.
The plastic tubing does sound like a good, if not better, idea though. I have some miniature rubber vaccuum hose that may work, too. I might give it a try.
RBNicholson
Reply author: Barry
Replied on: October 06 2013 8:27:59 PM
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It seems like a fair number of folks modify the shaft; perhaps of necessity due to a missing one, though they seem readily available. I'm wondering now if using the tube style modification, you end up with quieter operation? On that note, I was thinking the other day (though I haven't done a thing about it yet) that maybe if I used a couple fiber washers to mount the motor in the tender of the General, that it would reduce vibration/noise? Either of you ever try any of that or have any comments about the noise business?
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: December 13 2013 6:51:26 PM
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Back to here with 2 more 1860 box car. Both Ontario and Western.
Reply author: Barry
Replied on: December 14 2013 8:15:01 PM
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That's a nice looking box car Frank. Is that a custom paint job?
Reply author: EM-1
Replied on: December 14 2013 8:25:32 PM
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Barry its definitely a custom paint, but not by TYCO or Mantua......You can see the decals edges on it!
Reply author: wks
Replied on: December 26 2014 09:47:05 AM
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Reply author: kovacste000
Replied on: December 26 2014 12:09:59 PM
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Here's all my Tyco/Mantua old timer stuff, which includes a Mantua Dixie Belle in Rio Grande livery and two 1890 coaches and three Tyco/Mantua 1860 coaches.
Reply author: wks
Replied on: December 26 2014 3:36:22 PM
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Reply author: kovacste000
Replied on: December 26 2014 10:39:35 PM
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quote:Thanks.
Originally posted by wks - December 26 2014 : 3:36:22 PM
The only issue with that is my current layout doesn't have detail because we don't have the room currently for such a layout (Unless you don't have to post them on a layout) although we have a layout for the train shows which the next one we'll for sure be attending will be in February. I'll try getting pictures of them or some other locos/rolling stock operating on that layout for the "Tyco News" thread at some point.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 13 2015 08:10:53 AM
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** Here is a tyco 4-6-0 Rogers I got at the Somerset NJ train show.
A Petticoat junction Hooterville Cannonball locomotive. It is in need of some parts. 
** Now here it is mostly repaired and running. Still missing the boiler to pilot bars, and a broken off tender step. Now I have 3 locomotives and only one set of passenger cars.
Reply author: kovacste000
Replied on: January 13 2015 09:37:16 AM
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** Here is a tyco 4-6-0 Rogers I got at the Somerset NJ train show.
A Petticoat junction Hooterville Cannonball locomotive. It is in need of some parts.
** Now here it is mostly repaired and running. Still missing the boiler to pilot bars, and a broken off tender step. Now I have 3 locomotives and only one set of passenger cars.
Originally posted by toptrain - January 13 2015 : 08:10:53 AM
Turned out pretty good, toptrain.Hehe, the name of the railroad on it is actually kinda funny. "Hootersville".
Reply author: oldtimer52
Replied on: January 13 2015 12:56:05 PM
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On the Petticoat Junction locomotives. There seems to have been two different locomotives made for this set. The one most common is the grey. My apologies to kova for using the photo of his loco, but I needed a photo of the loco and tender in the grey livery.
Then there is the photo of the one they used in the catalog
There was a discussion that the one in the catalog photo was the prototype. I just found this in a batch of train stuff I got on eBay. The logo is printed on and not a decal. Looks like Tyco produced two different locos/tenders for this set. If not, then I somehow got the prototype tender.
Reply author: wks
Replied on: March 09 2015 4:06:46 PM
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Reply author: 59Chevy
Replied on: March 09 2015 6:14:41 PM
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I like the girls in the water tower!
Reply author: ScaleCraft
Replied on: March 11 2015 11:48:13 PM
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My two old timers. I have some old style freight cars I'll have to dig out.
Dave
Reply author: waw47
Replied on: March 12 2015 01:40:02 AM
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George
After you posted the picture of the Red C&FW Tender, I started searching
the net and found two more examples of red tenders. So there must have been at least one run of the Hooterville Cannonball Locomotives with red tenders. I stand corrected.
Bill
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/uploaded/vintageho/20101109191507_Petticoat.jpg
Reply author: oldtimer52
Replied on: March 12 2015 07:59:41 AM
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Maybe they did the initial production run with the red tender and then switched later to the all gray livery. Am still looking for the locomotive to go with this. Will then have both of them. Thanks for the update.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 25 2017 08:58:52 AM
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Now I have finally gotten the Mantua Bell of the Eighties. Of course passing up many of them through the years I have proved just how dumb I am. Mine needs repainting and the tender is damaged to where only a very good modeler can repair. I am lucky to have a Akane old time tender. One with much better detail. Now to clean it up and paint it. Maybe change some detail. We'll See.
frank
Bell as I got it. 
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: January 25 2017 09:35:19 AM
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I started this project 3 days ago. Here is where I am today.
frank
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: July 21 2017 08:54:58 AM
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Now for an almost exact prototype for the Mantua "Bell of the Eighties," the locomotive I have found is Lehigh Valley #84. There is a photo of it at Easton PA in the files of Railfan.net. The odd peaked roofline with a short boiler smoke box. A headlight with a scrolled shelf supports. Matching domes and the same location. Actually, the only difference is the smoke stack is straight with decorative cap ( cap stack). This type of stack is still available, and a easy fix.
* Also CRR of NJ #49 is very close in appearance. It also like the Mantua had the peaked roof
I have a copy of the photo but it isn't mine, so I can't post it.
Reply author: toptrain
Replied on: July 21 2017 08:56:56 AM
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* Here is my CRR of NJ 4-4-0 with the roomy larger cab.
frank
Reply author: wks
Replied on: July 08 2020 6:34:14 PM
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As always gorgeous classics.
Tyco classic.
Reply author: wks
Replied on: December 14 2020 12:26:40 PM
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Christmas comes to Frankford Shops.
Other members can post their engines and cars as well.
Reply author: microbusss
Replied on: December 14 2020 6:51:34 PM
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As always gorgeous classics.
Tyco classic.
Originally posted by wks - July 08 2020 : 6:34:14 PM
I have this one but lost the coupling between tender & loco
Reply author: Chops124
Replied on: December 14 2020 6:59:23 PM
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That early technology is so neat. The blue V&T is a nice varient. Frank's
NYO&W is pretty darn neat. Upstate NY is a beautiful region, even better
back in 1880's.
Question: I sold my Tyco Hospital Coach and Confederate Coach on eBay
for $25, just today. It sold so fast it made my head spin. Was I a Dumb Bass for not asking for more??
Reply author: wks
Replied on: December 14 2020 8:29:50 PM
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Sounds like you still made some money. I do not think those items are rare.
Reply author: RP model railroads
Replied on: December 14 2020 10:06:48 PM
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$25 was an extreme deal for those 2 coaches, considering they were only included in Tyco's Blue and Gray Civil War sets, and those sets go anywhere from $200 to $500.
Reply author: Chops124
Replied on: December 14 2020 10:54:19 PM
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Well I got them for free, but I shoulda known better. They got snapped up
so fast.
Reply author: RealBnsfIA
Replied on: December 15 2020 11:24:41 AM
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Yeah you probably could've gotten near $30 a piece for those(or even north of that)
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