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Hobbytown E7 A-B units.
Previous owner worked in the paint shop at local transit , so the last thing he felt like doing at home was " paint a damn train".
They run great, not as fast as I'd like, and develop an overload after a few rounds of the layout.
Anyone familiar with Pittman style motors have any clues why this happens? Motor is very clean.
I will test out a Roco can motor , and see what happens.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 11:39:52 AM
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I wish I could tell you, PGE. Anyway, my LOTW is a Bachmann Thomas range Duck. To be honest, the model's actually pretty neat looking in my opinion.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 12:40:29 PM
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Duck! gimmies!! 
Tyco Virginian loco & caboose 
this was in the $25 box from a garage sale a friend got last Sat 
Need railings for loco
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 12:57:12 PM
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Model Power E7. Not running yet, it has cracked universals, should be an easy fix with new universals from NWSL.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 12:58:07 PM
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my loco this week is general dix,ken
powered by a 2020a faulhaber motor with a 3.9:1 gear head
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 1:16:50 PM
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quote:Duck! gimmies!!
Originally posted by microbusss - August 31 2014 : 12:40:29 PM
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I can see why you like it though.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 2:27:29 PM
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This is a Hobbyline Berkshire kit with a Simms chassis.
I reproduced some of the kits plastic valve gear parts with metal parts and added a few other details to the shell.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 3:15:29 PM
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quote: I can see why you like it though.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â August 31 2014Â :Â 1:16:50 PM
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Plus I had one in Matchbox form
Course I got one again later
The real Duck according to a Thomas website was actually scrapped in the 60s I think
May have been before that
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 3:52:46 PM
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quote: quote: I can see why you like it though.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â August 31 2014Â :Â 1:16:50 PM
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Plus I had one in Matchbox form
Course I got one again later
The real Duck according to a Thomas website was actually scrapped in the 60s I think
May have been before that
Originally posted by microbusss - August 31 2014 : 3:15:29 PM
[/quote]So basically what you're saying is that Duck is "dead". Gee, no wonders Hit took him off the tv series.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 8:09:00 PM
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My LOTW is one that I picked up for a buck at a swap meet. I looks to be an old Globe Models F-7. It is unpowered and I suppose it is a factory undecorated model despite the fact that it is in silver.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 8:44:02 PM
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quote:Hobbytown E7 A-B units.
They run great, not as fast as I'd like, and develop an overload after a few rounds of the layout.
Anyone familiar with Pittman style motors have any clues why this happens?
Originally posted by PGE33Â -Â August 31 2014Â :Â 10:56:37 AM
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The big old Pittman open frame motors were high in torque and fairly low in RPM, which is probably why they're a bit slow at the top end.
As for the overload, a big open frame motor would draw some big amperage, especially while powering two heavy units. What sort of power pack do you have? A small train set pack might be running at its upper limits and starting to heat up. If it's a more hefty power pack, then the problem's something else. I wonder how freely the drive train moves.
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 9:11:09 PM
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This is my LOTW.... NJ Transit GG1.#4888. This is a IHC GG1 Double motor....
It took 3 tries to get it right..... They are several more pics in the custom build forum under NJ transit fantasy engines...
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 11:07:16 PM
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Someone drove a crappy unpainted Caddy in front of my LOTW. 
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Posted - August 31 2014 : 11:58:10 PM
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quote:Someone drove a crappy I painted Caddy in front of my LOTW.
Originally posted by walt - August 31 2014 : 11:07:16 PM
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Very funny. Believe it or not, I actually know someone who has one of those Bachmann F units.
-Steve
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 12:16:39 AM
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 12:18:21 AM
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I remember when Bruce Chubb of Sunset Valley RR fame used these Cary/ Hobbytown diesels exclusively on the SV.quote:
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 12:20:11 AM
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quote:Love the chrome plated Fs
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â September 01 2014Â :Â 12:16:39 AM
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Was a gift set from my wife a few years back...
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 02:42:16 AM
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F7 Face Off: a couple of old Tyco Queens battle for supremacy
of the rails...
and a link: 2 minutes run time..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHwOTyXUOO4
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 02:49:07 AM
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quote:my loco this week is general dix,ken
powered by a 2020a faulhaber motor with a 3.9:1 gear head
Originally posted by catfordken - August 31 2014 : 12:58:07 PM
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Terrific photo. Any chance you might get to video her under steam? That gear ratio
sounds like it would make her go like a shot, not slower...How does that work?
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 02:52:39 AM
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Micro, how come you gots $25 for this, but you don't have $5 to close the deal from
earlier this year? Seriously?
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 10:50:26 AM
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here you go chops 124
here you go chops124,sorry about noise from kids ken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOD6uK2_Us&feature=youtu.be
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 11:50:21 AM
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Wow! I wish they all ran that smooth, and not like slot cars!
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 11:54:18 AM
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quote:Anyone familiar with Pittman style motors have any clues why this happens? Motor is very clean.
I will test out a Roco can motor , and see what happens.
Evan
Originally posted by PGE33Â -Â August 31 2014Â :Â 10:56:37 AM
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Which Pittman motor is it? And what power pack are you using?
If I remember correctly some of the Hobbytown locos had huge Pittman motors that draw more current than the normal HO power pack can handle.
As you said, a large can motor should solve the problem too though.
Ray
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 12:34:48 PM
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I'm using an MRC Tech II 2500.
It seems capable of running double and triple headers with no problems.
The motor Hobbytown used in the E7 was a Pittman DC71A.
Does this info. shed any light on the problem?
My only other non-trainset type controller is a Troller Model 30, also around one amp.
Evan
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 6:07:48 PM
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quote:
Micro, how come you gots $25 for this, but you don't have $5 to close the deal from
earlier this year? Seriously?
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â September 01 2014Â :Â 02:52:39 AM
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send me yer darned address already please!
Need to mail you yer PC stuffs asap
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My Lancaster P.A. $10 find. Don,t know if they run yet. Both are Tyco. I suspect the Durango has a PT motor. Can anyone tell me what the correct side frame are for this one? Ben?
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 7:50:16 PM
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My locomotive(s) of the week are my new Baldwin Demo' Centipedes.
Both are numbered 6000... (the second 6000's)
I will post "Set Of The Week" with my Baldwin Demonstrators. See that thread for another picture of the Centipedes.
Enjoy!
p.s. yes, both are beasts of dcc sound... when firing them up, all FOUR motors wind up and down nicely!
I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 9:01:32 PM
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quote:
Impressive! Very nice.
Wondering....what is the minimum radius curve those will negotiate?
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - September 01 2014 : 9:23:12 PM
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quote:I'm using an MRC Tech II 2500.
It seems capable of running double and triple headers with no problems.
The motor Hobbytown used in the E7 was a Pittman DC71A.
Does this info. shed any light on the problem?
My only other non-trainset type controller is a Troller Model 30, also around one amp.
Evan
Originally posted by PGE33Â -Â September 01 2014Â :Â 12:34:48 PM
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I thought it might have had the Pittman DC-91 motor which draws a bit more than the DC71A.
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 02:25:46 AM
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quote: quote:My locomotive(s) of the week are my new Baldwin Demo' Centipedes.
Both are numbered 6000... (the second 6000's)
I will post "Set Of The Week" with my Baldwin Demonstrators. See that thread for another picture of the Centipedes.
Enjoy!
p.s. yes, both are beasts of dcc sound... when firing them up, all FOUR motors wind up and down nicely!
Originally posted by zebrails - September 01 2014 : 7:50:16 PM
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Impressive! Very nice.
Wondering....what is the minimum radius curve those will negotiate?
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â September 01 2014Â :Â 9:01:32 PM
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They could be extreem at about 20"r and no less. However, the leading truck is very light and sensitive to bumps. The inner-most "driver-axles" are not geared, actually making this a 4-6-1+1-6-4 wheel arrangement, not a 4-8-8-4. Only the body's frame is metal. All else is plastic. This is also the first-run series Centipede set that came out in 2012... Out of a score of 10, I'd give it a 7, to be fully honest.
I've yet to get a dcc power system. Sounds are limited with a dc power supply. Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed with this locomotive set... I'm sorry to say.
It's a demonstrator, that's what I like.
Dynamic brakes were not incorporated in these locomotive prototypes. You may read the write-ups about these locomotives in the May 1982 issue of TRAINS mag'.
John
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 09:12:13 AM
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quote: I suspect the Durango has a PT motor. Can anyone tell me what the correct side frame are for this one? Ben?
Leo
Originally posted by babuff - September 01 2014 : 7:12:07 PM
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oh sure Here you go 
not the greatest pic but you get what sides go on it
still need the streamlined caboose
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 09:46:15 AM
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My LOTW is a pre-war all brass Mantua 4-4-2 Reading Atlantic. Picked up this morning before work as a BIN for $116 inc s/h... Not a bad price considering everything that came with it.
Sean
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 10:47:51 AM
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Hold on. You're saying you got that entire lot for $116?!That Mantua Atlantic along makes it worth it.
-Steve
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 12:12:35 PM
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quote:Hold on. You're saying you got that entire lot for $116?!That Mantua Atlantic along makes it worth it.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â September 02 2014Â :Â 10:47:51 AM
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Hello Steven,
Yes. I think the reason I was able to snag it before someone else. It was listed in the middle of the night EST and he had set his shipping rather high at $66. There were 6 days and 19 hours left in the listing when I saw it at 7:30 am EST. That puts the start time at something close to 2:00 - 2:30 AM EST. A terrible time to start a listing unless it is a BIN. I've saved a quick bookmark tab for BIN listings and I check it periodically throughout the day.. sometimes. You never know what will pop up!
The BIN was for $50 w/ $66 s/h. Some people see a large shipping charge and shy away from a purchase. I don't car so long as the combined is less than what I am willing to pay. As soon as I recognized the Atlantic, I jumped!
Then after I purchased it I saw these Urlich truck parts BONUS!!
I can't see any more parts for them in the lot, but who knows what is in all those boxes?
Sean
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 12:28:51 PM
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That's why I love it when I get lots of train stuff. You never know what you might find hiding in there.
-Steve
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 1:18:18 PM
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quote:My LOTW is a pre-war all brass Mantua 4-4-2 Reading Atlantic. Picked up this morning before work as a BIN for $116 inc s/h... Not a bad price considering everything that came with it.
Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - September 02 2014 : 09:46:15 AM
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Njce lot of locos Sean.
Definitely the deal of the day.
That Hudson looks interesting.
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 2:46:12 PM
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quote:My LOTW is a pre-war all brass Mantua 4-4-2 Reading Atlantic. Picked up this morning before work as a BIN for $116 inc s/h... Not a bad price considering everything that came with it.
Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - September 02 2014 : 09:46:15 AM
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Of course, being who I am, what caught my eye in all that was the box of tank cars Is that really a Thomas Industries Roma Wine car I see buried in there? Take it out and post a picture, I wanna see! That's one of the cars I'd really like to find sometime, I'm still trying to coax a halfway-decent model out of the AHM version but it's not going so well.
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Thanks Ben. I knew I could count on you buddy.
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 3:30:15 PM
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quote:
Of course, being who I am, what caught my eye in all that was the box of tank cars Is that really a Thomas Industries Roma Wine car I see buried in there? Take it out and post a picture, I wanna see! That's one of the cars I'd really like to find sometime, I'm still trying to coax a halfway-decent model out of the AHM version but it's not going so well.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â September 02 2014Â :Â 2:46:12 PM
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Hello Connor,
Yes it is a Roma Wine car from Thomas Industries. The original box is there too.. Yes.. I saw that too and was pleased about it.... only after making the purchase. I was not even looking at that when I jumped on it. All it took was seeing the Atlantic. Hell, I had not even looked at the shipping cost until after I agreed to buy! LOL!
Here is the box... What I find curious is the box just to the right... It is a early Mantua box. I don't see any other early Mantua's in the lot but the Atlantic loco. It could be a tank car box, but if it is the loco box, then that is a real bonus! Those are almost impossible to find! I have one box top for the Atlantic and two for the Mountain Mechanism Kit. None for th ePacific or Consolidation!
Sean
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 4:00:32 PM
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quote:Thanks Ben. I knew I could count on you buddy.
Leo
Originally posted by babuff - September 02 2014 : 3:26:35 PM
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Leo, the AAR sideframes like on the Tyco Alco Century 430 are also correct...rare, but correct.
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Posted - September 02 2014 : 10:49:36 PM
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My LOTW is a continuation of my L&N Alcos
  
http://tycodepot.com/
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quote:Thanks Ben. I knew I could count on you buddy.
Leo
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yer welcome
If you needs a better pic shoot me a Email & the railings for MY Durango
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 08:55:43 AM
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Hey Scot, spread out the tank cars for a photo. They look interesting also.
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 11:48:13 AM
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quote:Hey Scot , spread out the tank cars for a photo. They look interesting also.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - September 03 2014 : 08:55:43 AM
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Hi Frank! Its Sean! , LOL! Haven't changed my name just yet...
They have not come yet and it might be a while before I get to open the box. I have not opened any in almost two months. I have two stacks of sealed boxes from floor to ceiling and I am working on my third. Just haven't had the time with my daughters being active in ice hockey and soccer. Between the two of them, they are on four hockey teams and one soccer team. I'll try to remember when it comes though.
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 12:08:06 PM
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OPPS ! Hi Sean. Thanks for the correction. That Thomas 5 dome is hard to find and usually expensive. Is that deep rock a old Mantua or Globe-Athearn. I seen the Athearn SP silver tank. That should be a metal one also. Another good find.
Well school starts, so as you say you'll be a very busy shofar. Enjoy all of the games.
** Have a happy -
Frank
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 2:32:41 PM
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quote:OPPS ! Hi Sean. Thanks for the correction.
Originally posted by toptrain - September 03 2014 : 12:08:06 PM
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Sean
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 6:30:28 PM
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quote:OPPS ! Hi Sean. Thanks for the correction. That Thomas 5 dome is hard to find and usually expensive. Is that deep rock a old Mantua or Globe-Athearn. I seen the Athearn SP silver tank. That should be a metal one also. Another good find.
Well school starts, so as you say you'll be a very busy shofar. Enjoy all of the games.
** Have a happy -
Frank
Originally posted by toptrain - September 03 2014 : 12:08:06 PM
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I'd wager the deep-rock car is Globe/Athearn. Found me the UTLX version myself for $1 but the domes are cracked
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Posted - September 03 2014 : 11:03:30 PM
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I'd wager the deep-rock car is Globe/Athearn. Found me the UTLX version myself for $1 but the domes are cracked
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â September 03 2014Â :Â 6:30:28 PM
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I am sure I probably have many spare domes...
Sean
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