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Posted - October 31 2010 : 5:27:57 PM
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Happily, I picked up this FA (it's not a PA, right? they have longer noses?) for ten bucks at a local antique shop. New Haven only ran this color scheme for about a year. Pretty cool since I focus on New Haven.
Can anyone identify its maker? I can find no markings, though I haven't taken the circuit board off the top yet. I can see a can motor underneath with driveshafts, very vaguely Athearn-like but not like any of the Athearns I have. The chassis is rather heavy. The square structure and tanks on the bottom are plastic and snap on.
Thanks!
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 5:33:21 PM
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looks like a bachmann to me,will check it out ken
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 5:40:16 PM
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e-r (roco)did it i believe ken
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 5:41:06 PM
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Hi Farce. It could be a Walthers Trainline model. or like Ken said a E-R Model. Walthers I believe, bought the company a while back.. Nice find.. Carl
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 7:53:05 PM
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Vintage got it right. That is a stock NH paint job for a Walters train line FA1. There are many B units with the paint out there. There was 2 runs of them. You will see them is Walters catalogs. it is made with the old Trainminature Dies. Yep took a double check. it is the Walters model. frank
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 10:05:13 PM
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Thank you all very much. Now maybe I'll have to keep my eyes open for a cheap B unit, since New Haven actually had them, unlike the F7s I'm working on.
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Posted - October 31 2010 : 10:50:36 PM
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How are these Walthers Trainline engines suited to DCC? I bought several vintate FA-1 Train-Miniature kits at the Timonium show, which Walthers later bought and used the molds for their current FA-1 units. So I'm hoping they will fit the old T-M shell, and they're designed to DCC easily. Anyone know? The few sites I've seen selling them don't mention any DCC capability.
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 12:08:13 AM
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Hey AMC,
The Walthers FA1 is not DCC ready. But it is DCC "compatible" with some minor work. The can motor is isolated from the frame with power being wired in. So switching to DCC should be a snap. The motor is a very low current draw Mabucchi 3-pole.
I have the Walthers GP-9m, GP 15-1, and GE Dash 8-40B, and they are also easily converted to DCC. Again, all have an isolated motor. The older H10-44 can be switched over, but will require a lot more work. And space inside is very tight!
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 02:06:39 AM
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I've been sitting here with a DVM thinking, "it can't be this easy." The motor brush leads are isolated, but the motor casing is not. But that's okay, because the wheels and power are totally isolated from the frame; nothing is grounded to the motor can or the frame. There's a long "circuit board" along the top of the frame (you can see it in the second photo above), and I use the term circuit board loosely because it's basically just two strips of copper. At the rear, the wire from each side of the trucks are soldered onto terminals on each side. At the front it's the same with the addition of the headlight also being soldered to the two terminals. In the middle of the board the motor wires are soldered to two terminals, one on each side.
So really, it looks like all I'm going to have to do is desolder the two motor leads and attach them to the appropriate decoder leads. Then solder the appropriate power leads from the decoder to the terminals that the motor leads were removed from. Remove the headlight and resolder to the appropriate decoder leads (or, in my instance, replace with a golden glow LED). Attach the decoder with some double-sided foam tape and that should be it. If I have time, I may try it tomorrow night. (What appears to me to be an added benefit from leaving the circuit board in place is that it will help keep the wires out of the way of the driveline underneath.)
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 06:48:26 AM
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quote:Hey AMC,
The Walthers FA1 is not DCC ready. But it is DCC "compatible" with some minor work.
Originally posted by Hypoponera - November 01 2010 : 12:08:13 AM
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Cool, I just bought one of the Trainline's last night on Ebay, the SP&S version. HOpe to have my Train-Miniature shell on it and running soon, then. I'm handy with a soldering iron.
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 10:40:49 PM
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Did it, put in an NCE D13SR.
Easiest Install Ever.
It went just as I expected and wrote above. Loco runs very smoothly, too.
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Posted - November 02 2010 : 10:10:58 AM
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golden glow LED? Actually my friend suggested to me to use a Soft White LED for my NYC Hudson loco
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Posted - November 02 2010 : 5:56:48 PM
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I thought it was Golden Glow, but I lost the label, and it sure doesn't look very yellow. At least it's not bluish, so maybe it is Soft White. Whatever it is, it's really bright and is glowing through the shell even though I put heat-shrink tubing on it so only the tip is exposed, so I will probably paint the inside of the shell at some point.
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Posted - January 31 2021 : 8:43:19 PM
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quote:
Definitely not a common New Haven unit.
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