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 Posted - October 24 2010 : 3:38:58 PM
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This was a AHM release in only 2 road names Rio-Grand, and Southern Pacific. You can tell which I have.
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Posted - October 24 2010 : 7:18:26 PM
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 those are NEATO  Think I'd want one in Rio Grande tho 
What are they & what is the history of them? 
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Posted - October 24 2010 : 7:41:31 PM
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They look like the diesel-hydraulic engines the UP used for awhile. French, weren't they?
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Posted - October 24 2010 : 8:45:20 PM
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Nice locos. They're definitely on my want list, but I never see them outside of overpriced ebay auctions.
They're German. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krauss-Maffei
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Posted - October 24 2010 : 9:39:25 PM
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Sweet...look even better than I imagined.
quote:Nice locos. They're definitely on my want list, but I never see them outside of overpriced ebay auctions.
Originally posted by burlington77Â -Â October 24 2010Â :Â 8:45:20 PM
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Ditto, would like to get one myself...get the cold shakes every time I thumb thru an old MR mag and see them in 2 for 1 ads---for $6.99...sigh...
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 01:06:05 AM
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Shaygetz, I've got the same reaction. These were cool cab units... KM is a German concern that is still in business. I believe they had a Voith transmission. Pity they did not take to our North American operational requirements. The Krauss-Maffei Diesel-Hydraulic experiment that Rio Grande and SP took on was more short-lived than UP's turbines, but I think it is amazing that Diesel-Hydraulics are used as shunting locomotives on the continent and in the UK considering the complexity of the drive systems. Here's a link for an SP hood unit variant of the KM cab:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sp9006.jpgWow; what's next in this post? Anybody fancy Diesel-Mechanical shunters?
Cheers,
Lee
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 04:41:26 AM
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Found this listed in Austria: http://cgi.ebay.at/Rivarossi-Diesellokomotive-Rio-Grande-1895-OVP-/280578402842?pt=DE_Modellbau_Modelleisenbahnen&hash=item4153c6aa1a
But I´m not interested in it!
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 05:05:45 AM
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Krauss-Maffeis are cool. Period.
If Rivarossi ever wanted to make a serious stab at the US market again, these models should be spruced up and first in line for re-release. I'd buy one, maybe two... or three!
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 06:50:12 AM
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another photo
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 11:10:57 PM
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| Hey Frank. Cool looking engines for sure Are they both powered?
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Posted - October 25 2010 : 11:36:37 PM
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Da cheese : They are a powered and a nonpowered. They are strange for all I have seen before had SP on the front and a number above it below the light. Also on both side top ,rear was the number. These loco's have only the road name.
frank
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Posted - October 26 2010 : 01:57:55 AM
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| There is a Rio Grande KM set currently on ebay but the seller is in Canada.
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Posted - October 27 2010 : 9:39:24 PM
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If you like the original, take a look at the 1963 model by KM:
Talk about one UGLY loco! I don't think anyone makes a model of this version though.
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Posted - October 30 2010 : 2:28:07 PM
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only in brass by overland in 80s ken
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 12:11:04 AM
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| I stand corrected! Any chance I could borrow that? I'd like to try to mold and cast one for myself.
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Posted - November 25 2010 : 4:37:11 PM
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quote:This was a AHM release in only 2 road names Rio-Grand, and Southern Pacific.
Originally posted by toptrain - October 24 2010 : 3:38:58 PM
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These two have been transfered to the Catford branch of the PGW. They are now on PGW property south of London.
frank
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Posted - December 15 2010 : 8:03:41 PM
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Its a shame these never ran as good as they look, and with the odd wheel spacing, replacement drives are a major undertaking. I would love to see Hornby/Rivarossi make these again with some updated detailing and a proper drive with all axles powered. Division point did a really nice set in Brass, over $1200 per engine!!! WOW! I would sign up for a pair in Rio Grande if Rivarossi redid these. Mike
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Posted - December 15 2010 : 8:33:54 PM
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I want it in Rio Grande & Rivarossi outta buisness sorry As is AHM  But lucky for us foamers & modelers there is plenty out there
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Posted - February 13 2011 : 10:05:51 PM
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| FYI....there is a used SP engine of this type up for sale at Amato's Hobby shop in New Britain CT as of last week (second week of Feb). Looked to be in pristine condition without the box. They were asking $29.00 and I was tempted, but another loco being offered for sale ended up going home with me instead.
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Posted - February 14 2011 : 09:23:56 AM
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| hehe hope to find ONE in Rio Grande since I'm going to Denver, CO for train show the 26th The former home of 3ft & standard gauge of the D&RGW
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