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 Posted - April 12 2010 : 8:14:29 PM
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Hey Gents:
Do any of you have an IHC or Bachmann Spectrum 2-10-2. I'll be getting one to use to convert to a Canadian National T-3-a and wondere about the running qualities of these two.
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Gareth
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Posted - April 13 2010 : 09:56:24 AM
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I've got an IHC 2-10-2, the one that came in the President's Choice "Big Ten Express" set.
This particular example differs from the standard IHC offering. There's no DCC compatible PC board in the tender, there's an Elesco feedwater heater and CN style angled numberboards, and only the first and fourth driver sets are sprung.
It runs good but like other IHC locos, it's slippery.
It uses the same "big steam" boiler casting as the Mountain and Hudson, but it adds another sand dome and the piping is now separately applied. The middle driver set is blind and does not make contact with the rails. Slight modification is necessary to correct this issue - the cover plate needs to be removed and two nubs removed (these nubs keep the drivers from contacting the rails). There are no bearings on this axle; Mantua bearings will work here, you'll need the split bearing set for the geared axle.
It's easy to add springing to the other drivers, just lift the axle out and replace the brass rod in the spring holes with springs.
Other modelers have turned the IHC 2-10-2 into a CN 4100. You have to remove the second sand dome, rearrange the whistle and pop valves, remove some of the generic details, replace the factory cab with a CN enclosed cab, and replace the built up trailing truck with a Mantua Delta truck. The tender is virtually unusable, but a Bachmann Spectrum "Hicken" tender is a close match for the CN Vanderbilt tender.
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Posted - April 13 2010 : 10:25:33 PM
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I have one the last production 2-10-2's before IHC folded up.
It does have the DCC hookup in its tender, along with a can motor moving it along. Quiet as heck and pulls good to boot. Definitely one of my better locos. Its not a huge fan of 18" turns but it will do them. Graftonterminal is right the tender is off. It never really annoyed me before, till I noticed there was never a single one in existence like it lol. The coal bunker is the wrong design its square rather than angled. What's interesting is I have a older Rivarossi 2-8-8-0 and its tender is almost a exact match to the IHC one, right down to the lettering (both are B&O), and wood deck color. But the Rivarossi one is shaped correctly, so if I ever find one at a show I'm gutting the IHC tender and moving its guts to the Riv one.
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Posted - April 16 2010 : 2:47:40 PM
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I think the Riv tender and the IHC tender are of the same prototype.
The Riv tender would have come with the C&O 2-6-6-6 model. Therefore, it's a C&O Vanderbilt tender.
The IHC "Big Steam" models - the 4-8-2, 4-6-4 and 2-10-2 - use a common boiler casting that originated with the Pemco 4-8-2, which was a model of a C&O Mountain, thus the common tender prototype.
The Riv tender is the more correct one. The Pemco - later IHC - tender was originally set up as a tender-drive unit, which is why the coal bunker is shaped like a cube rather than the tank design further back.
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Posted - April 16 2010 : 5:53:01 PM
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quote: The Pemco - later IHC - tender was originally set up as a tender-drive unit, which is why the coal bunker is shaped like a cube rather than the tank design further back.
Originally posted by graftonterminalrr - April 16 2010 : 2:47:40 PM
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Dang...an opportunity to look wise for my years has been snuffed out...
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Posted - April 17 2010 : 03:24:11 AM
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quote:I think the Riv tender and the IHC tender are of the same prototype.
Originally posted by graftonterminalrr - April 16 2010 : 2:47:40 PM
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Yea I had a feeling. It was just a little too convenient. I've heard about the tender driven IHC's and how they never changed the tender back. Which is a shame because I really like the engine otherwise.
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Posted - April 19 2010 : 09:34:03 AM
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Yes, it is a shame. I have two of the IHC Big Steamers, both from President's Choice sets - the 2-10-2 and the elephant ear 4-6-4 from the Mini Chefs set.
The tenders are the same, but the 2-10-2 release stepped things up. No more knife edge flanges, we now have blackened RP25 wheels. The trucks are rather nice castings. The handrails and wood decking can certainly be used for other applications.
When I'm at train shows (rare for this area), I try to scan the dealers for loose tenders. I've picked up unbuilt Bowser tenders, spare Riv tenders, Bachmann tenders, etc. Much, much better than the IHC travesty of a Vandy tender, in any case, which to me is only good as a parts donor.
Kris Carver-Seaboyer
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Posted - October 18 2010 : 11:48:32 PM
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I thik scooping any tender as a rule is a good idea, btw does anyone have an MDC Pennsy style Tender shell they want to part with???
-Gareth
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Posted - October 19 2010 : 09:14:57 AM
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hey I'm looking for a tender too I'll ask him which he looking for 
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