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 Posted - March 14 2010 : 09:33:42 AM
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hi guys can you confirm that this is the 1952 or 1953 version,am i right in that its a closed gearbox version ken
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Posted - March 17 2010 : 11:22:59 AM
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Hi Ken. The exact year is hard to say. It has the Gear Box and the larger motor. Also the fact that the Pilot, Steps, Cab, and the Tender are Die cast would make it made in the 1950's. The Mantua engines with the gear box, bigger motor and the extra weight usually Run and Pull Better. Nice Find..  Carl
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Posted - March 17 2010 : 11:43:57 AM
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hi carl bought it along with a few other locos and bits and bobs,all run,but this one is sweet,cant make me mind up as what to do with it,body wise,ken
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 2:55:44 PM
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 um is there a front truck/bogie that goes onto the front just behind the cowcatcher?
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 3:16:26 PM
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| yes and as stated in reply above its on its way from states ken
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 5:02:04 PM
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ok  oops missed that  I've noticed the cowcatcher since the 1860s have shrunk to nothing Guess it went from useful to a decoration hehe 
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 5:47:49 PM
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even there i think the buffalos are pretty rare apart from the ones ear marked for mcdonalds haha ken
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 6:54:17 PM
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| um a cowcatcher is that grill thing on the front of locomotives
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 6:56:40 PM
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| makes me laugh as to why its called a cowcatcher,when most free animals on the prairies were buffaloes,why not a buffalo catcher,haha ken
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 7:24:47 PM
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quote:makes me laugh as to why its called a cowcatcher,when most free animals on the prairies were buffaloes,why not a buffalo catcher,haha ken
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Um...because the Palefaces nearly killed all the Buffalo to extinction, to raise cattle on the prairies, Indians be damned ( that's why trains have Cattle Cars, and not Buffalo cars, see? )
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Posted - March 18 2010 : 7:46:07 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowcatcher also called a pilot too  But did you ever notice as steam progressed it got smaller & smaller?
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Posted - March 21 2010 : 3:58:09 PM
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| Interesting bit of minutia--pilots, that is. I'm sure there's some 'research' out there as to their size, utility, etc. Not only did they get smaller over time, but of course locos became larger, giving them a smaller appearance! Some railways went to a more solid pilot, which may have doubled as a snow plow. And of course, their purpose aside from "catching cows" was to move debris off the rails. I've noticed that the Brits instead have a piece of iron protruding down in front of each leading wheel, which suffices for protection from items strewn on the rails. And of course, many pilots had small footplates at the edges for crew to stand on while switching, etc. ---There you go on a lazy Sunday afternoon--A whole discourse on loco pilots!! (Not to be confused with crazy aviators from Mexico!)
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Posted - March 21 2010 : 7:16:44 PM
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| true Adams but Also I believe the cowcatcher shrank & became a decoration cause of barbed wire fences But seeing how a NA steam loco has cowcather it was tradition to put one in
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Posted - March 21 2010 : 7:46:05 PM
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It's most likely that the cow-catcher which threw things up and to the side was redesigned to reflect different obstructions and the need not to elevate things collided with on the tracks like autos at level crossings.... the modern version of this is referred to as an Anti-climber device. You can see the logical progreesion...
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