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 Posted - November 16 2009 : 8:00:15 PM
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Here is a 4-6-2 Mantua Pacific Kit Circa 1940's. Engine had a Brass Boiler and a different Tender then what used later with the Diecast 1950's version. Carl
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 01:02:21 AM
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| VintageHO your full of this stuff aren't you? Haha I like it though. Any plans to assemble it or just keep it for display?
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 05:46:08 AM
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nice model kit,never get them this side of pond,ken
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 09:21:39 AM
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Wow. That kit looks mint, and like it would be a blast to build. I love the enclosed gearbox with the center drivers. 
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 8:14:38 PM
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Hey Catfordken what era is that Pacific from ?
I bought what I thought was a red box era Southern Crescent set...but it turns out I got beat on it...short one car and the engine is the wrong era...my engine is the same as yours that why I was wondering how old it is?
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 8:41:28 PM
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Chris. My goal was to get two. One for building and one in kit. But, The Mantua Reading Atlantic and Consolidation and the Pacific are the hardest to find in any condition. So I have only the kits for now. I have found some built up but, poorly done. Still looking. The other Mantua Engines form the same time frame. Was The Roundhouse Goat, The Belle of the Eighties. 8 Ball Mogul, The Little Bee, and The Mighty Mite. 
Carl
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 11:23:04 PM
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well I don't got that loco but I do have a record of it
its a Smithsonian recording of the loco that's in the Castle 
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Posted - November 18 2009 : 04:35:27 AM
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hi taycotrains,the loco i believe dates from the late 50s i was told,my avatar is a matchbox/mantua using same moulds but made in 90s ken
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Posted - November 18 2009 : 7:16:02 PM
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Thanks Ken for the info !!!
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Posted - December 07 2009 : 4:59:36 PM
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Late to the party, I know.
VintageHO - I remember reading somewhere that you only needed my address, and you'd ship that Pacific off to me gratis? A man can dream...
Catfordken - your Pacific is an example of the later cast-boiler Pacific from the 50's through present - yep, Model Power is still crankin' 'em out, and no wonder, they're one of the finest model steam locos you can buy.
But the newer model bears little in common with the old brass-boilered Pacific other than the wheel arrangement and name stamped in the frame.
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 07:34:37 AM
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The new Mantua Pacifics are finally hitting the shelves and they look pretty schmick for the most part. The Santa Fe sizzles but I did think the new Royal Blue would be bluer and... royaller?
So I have a favour to ask of those across the Pacific - ocean that is. Should anyone spy these shiny new locos at their LHS, could they please confirm the long haul Northern Pacific 4-6-2 is really NP? All the online images thus far show a Union Pacific Pacific. Thanks, steam fiends!
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 07:56:13 AM
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| hi tykowolf from what i understand not availible till march ken
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 08:20:37 AM
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| Howdy Ken! The locos are trickling in right now but I doubt you or I will ever see them in the metal on the high street. Buying over the internet can be tricky when things get a little muddled. I'm hoping our American based friends can be specific-pacific!
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 08:35:39 AM
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| ok have good luck and hope they can be more s/pacific ken
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 10:28:26 AM
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| I recently unearthed a bunch of early Mantua steam engines... assembled vintage kits in various states of repair. I have a number of brass Belles and 8-Balls... but the Pacifics are all the early diecast versions with enclosed gearboxes and diecast cabs. A number of random parts are missing from each and some of the original assembly was poor (others were nice)... so I've got a real Frankenstein project on my hands. But it should be fun once I sort everything out. There's something intangible about the older kits that I just love. Maybe it's the lack of plastic?
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Posted - January 30 2010 : 10:48:54 AM
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| your right their gic,i love the smell of em as well,ken
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Posted - November 09 2010 : 1:26:18 PM
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| I just picked up one of the originals, a decent built upgraded with a newer can motor. Found it on the second day of a two-day train show, thought maybe it was brass until I noticed the "Mantua" cast in the cylinder saddle - and when I realized then what it had to be, I bought it, because I figure if I don't - I'll never ever see another one.
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Posted - November 09 2010 : 1:35:27 PM
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| Hey I just remembered Some company came out with these in a telephone version Just the loco no tender
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Posted - February 16 2011 : 9:27:57 PM
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Here is my old cast and brass mantua Pacific. Like the one in the kit at the start of this thread.
frank
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Posted - June 15 2011 : 4:57:33 PM
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Hi All!
New to this place. Just discovered it and was admiring the vintage Mantua kits. Here are some of my early Mantua locomotives:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4305605438/in/set-72157623238233266
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5334447718/in/set-72157623384254115
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5334446386/in/set-72157623384254115
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4286293094/in/set-72157623238233266
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4285550191/in/set-72157623238233266
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5348301544/in/set-72157623238233266
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4304864889/in/set-72157623238233266
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/5334444690/in/set-72157623384254115
Enjoyed reading through the topic guys! Best to you all!
Sean
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Posted - June 15 2011 : 5:17:02 PM
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| Mustangs_n_Trains,i think you know me from elsewhere,glad to see you and locos here ken
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 Posted - June 16 2011 : 12:09:51 PM
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quote:Mustangs_n_Trains,i think you know me from elsewhere,glad to see you and locos here ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 15 2011 : 5:17:02 PM
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Hi ken, (from the UK?)
My email search of my a69mustang4me yahoo email account shows a catfordken twice. Once as a flickr contact and the other as a question posted by an eBay member. My user on all three is a69mustang4me. kind of pathetic, yes I know, but I have one, so I am allowed I guess. I also figure I will see some cross-over members too as I am also on the VintageHO and Yardbirdtrains yahoo discussion groups.
Sean
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Posted - June 16 2011 : 12:15:00 PM
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hi Sean bit like me,i use Catfordken for all my on-line auctions its where i live in uk plus name ,forums etc.,makes life simple,i hope you get to like it here,friendly and helpful guys,Ken
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Posted - June 16 2011 : 1:11:47 PM
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Hey Sean, Welcome aboard, geez you tend to get under foot! :P
Did you ever find the MDC Yard Hog 0-6-0 METAL boiler we talked about a whlie back???
-Gareth
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Posted - July 04 2011 : 09:53:38 AM
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quote:Hey Sean, Welcome aboard, geez you tend to get under foot! :P
Did you ever find the MDC Yard Hog 0-6-0 METAL boiler we talked about a whlie back???
-Gareth
Originally posted by romcat - June 16 2011 : 1:11:47 PM
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Hello Gareth,
I do have a shell I can part with. How much would you say? $5 plus the FCMI shipping to Canada? I think it should be about ~$3 to get it there.
Sean
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Posted - July 05 2011 : 01:09:26 AM
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Welcome, Sean. I guess no matter where we go on the interwebz to talk classic HO we're going to keep bumping into all the usual suspects. /tyco/forum/uploaded/NickelPlate759/peek.gif
I really like the Reading heavy Consolidation. Also, do you know if the rounded axle gear teeth on the Mountain frame is from wear, or if it was manufactured that way?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4286293474/sizes/o/in/set-72157623238233266/
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Posted - July 05 2011 : 5:20:03 PM
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quote:
I really like the Reading heavy Consolidation. Also, do you know if the rounded axle gear teeth on the Mountain frame is from wear, or if it was manufactured that way?
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Hi Nelson! I guess bumping into the same people out here is bound to happen. You know, in the grand scheme of things, we vintage HO collectors are a relatively small bunch. It is what troubles me most about eBay anymore. I often find myself bidding against or outbidding friends or fellow group members and it can sometimes make me feel pretty bad when I do.
The Mantua Reading Consolidation is one of my collection Favorites. I must say, however, it was the acquisition of the Mantua Reading Pacific that is one of my most prized. I think because it was so hard to come by. After two previous failed attempts at purchasing it previously, finally getting it made it that much sweeter.
As for the Mountain Mechanism gear, I believe it is manufactured that way.
First, this chassis looks to have never actually been placed under a boiler to me.
Second, every one of my prewar Mantua engines (roughly 9 or more) to date have had this very same gear with the same rounded teeth.
Third, the worm gear on the motor is very large and the roundness of the axle gear would increase the contact surface on the worm gear.
With that all said, I can not say for sure... You see, these engines are between 65 and 75 years old. I'll be turning 41 in less than a month. My dad was not even born until 1936 and would have been too young to play with these when they first came out. on a side...He is still continually amazed at some of the pieces I find and collect from around the time of his birth.
Sean
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Posted - July 05 2011 : 5:30:42 PM
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love this one for its simple looks ken
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/4304866075/in/set-72157623238233266/
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Posted - July 05 2011 : 6:58:19 PM
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Sean, I agree: it's clear that the axle gear was machined that way, since the teeth are perfectly regular and don't look like any damage from a loose motor & worm that I've ever seen. A wear pattern would be obvious, because the gear would be a mess (I even have a stripped axle gear from a Gilbert Hudson for comparison). I just didn't know any were made with scooped teeth like that.
I think the Consolidation is an I10, the same loco Bachmann began making in plastic in the 70's. I prefer it and the Atlantic to the Pacific partly because they didn't make it into the Tyco-Mantua roster in later years, but the early Pacific is still cool.
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